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say it with me: 1060 performance

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>Although we were told we wouldn’t be sampled, following our defiance of AMD’s decision to express favoritism by permitting only select reviewers to publish early Threadripper data, we will still have Vega content ready on embargo lift dates. We’ve sourced information and parts elsewhere. Turns out that talking about thermal compound efficacy on an IHS is disallowed, despite the fact that TR’s thermal performance was already published by outlets expressly permitted to break embargo.

kek, AMD hates him now

Well, making clickbait AMD-related videos is THE way to get on mommy's blacklist.

>talking about thermal compound efficacy on an IHS is disallowed

t. leather jacket man

Gamernexus never liked AMD, they shit on them every time they can and they were the ones making benchmarks of Ryzen with games at 240p just to make intel look good.

>samefag buttmad amdrone
>it's OK when amd resorts to shady practices

is curlyhair reaching hardocp level of butthurt?

hardocp is on amd payroll since ryzen
he even did the vega """"benchmark"""" with the broken memesync samshit uiltrawide meme monitors

his beef is pretty justified imo, it makes no sense to disembargo select reviewers for random benchmarks then turn around and cry when other reviewers release exactly the same information. it's pretty different to kyle who wore his bias on his sleeve and spat and pulled hair for no discernible reason every time AMD did anything ever.

it comes down to him being butthurt about less views, as a consumer I don't care who gives me the info if it's true
either way proper way is to cross check between several reviews

is steve a jew

he gives me that vibe

>>Although we were told we wouldn’t be sampled, following our defiance of AMD’s decision to express favoritism by permitting only select reviewers to publish early Threadripper data, we will still have Vega content ready on embargo lift dates. We’ve sourced information and parts elsewhere. Turns out that talking about thermal compound efficacy on an IHS is disallowed, despite the fact that TR’s thermal performance was already published by outlets expressly permitted to break embargo.

helps that you tried to be hardocp

>please also bench at 4K
>ooooooooooooyyyyyyyy veeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

>releasing 56 benches 2 weeks early
will there be better drivers in 2 week or something?

It really depends if they can *fix* memory bandwith issues for launch.

isn't 56 also coming out monday?
why two weeks?

>memesync
lol, intel adopted

According to (((Steve))) Vega56 launches on 28th of August.

it actually might be true because initial rumor was that 56 is aib only
who cares though, more importantly we will get our benchmarks monday

Yes, but 56 will be DOA once 1070 returns to MSRP pricing.

Why did he delete this?

Looks like it's still there.
He means they fixed the bandwith regression?
That'd be very nice.

He was called out for leaking info to miners basically baiting them to buy it for mining instead of gaming which we all know is going to be a huige failure.

The message is still there.
Also
>leaking
The dude is CEO of RTG you moron.

Why is twitter fucking with me? It wasn't there a minute ago.

>which we all know is going to be a huige failure.
we don't know anything yet.

Twitter is evil.
Anyway, just look at Vega's bandwith deficit.

We don't even know why it's effective memory bandwith hangs at 1080 levels. Its peak is 484GB/s, same as 1080ti, but effetive bw is nowhere near that.

Steve is a good Christian boy.

t. Steve

>gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3016-amd-moves-vega-56-embargo-forward-prioritizes-over-64

>p-please review this card first, d-don't say too much about the other card

Wew this doesn't bode well for the big Vega card

Full Vega10 feeds like three lineups, gaymen, pro and instinct.
Selling it to gaymers is the last thing you wanna do.

What are you talking about you idiot, RX vega are gamer cards

Full 4k ALU Vega10 feeds three fucking lineups you retard. Selling it as low-margin trash to gaymers is the last thing AMD wants to do right now.

Do you live in al alternative reality?

We are talking about RX Vega 64 here, a GAMING card.

>hurrrr it's not a gaming card

Fuck of with your delusional bullshit already

Just because you love shitty products doesn't mean amd products are good.

You mean they don't pat them on the hat and treat them like the little kid that needs protection like alot of other reviewers do.

N/v/idiots really are retarded. The full sized Vega chip in Vega 64 is the same full sized Vega chip that is used in the much more profitable (for AMD) WX Vega, SSG Vega and MI25 Radeon Instinct cards. Since the profit margins on RX Vega 64 are the lowest of any use of a full sized Vega 10 chip, AMD would rather push Vega 56 to gamers as much as possible.

Holy fuck, full Vega10 feeds three fucking lineups, cutdown Vega10 is present in only one.
They want to sell as much cutdowns as possible.

Vega cater only three categories
1.amd drone mindless fanboy
2. Miners
3. Retards who buy imacs

Nobody cares you stupid cunt, that's irrelevant to what is being discussed here, the gaming performance of the RX Vega cards.

Hello Jensen!
Don't worry in 3 years you'll be able to compete with SSG. No worries!
Yours, mr. Pajeet

Holy fuck you are so fucking retarded.

wich is wierd as it has a way bigger bus and is bound directly to the gpu

Nvidia already DESTROYS your stuttering SSG garbage

tweaktown.com/news/58669/nvidia-beats-amd-real-time-8k-video-editing/index.html

>AMD's demo of the Radeon Pro SSG was stuttering in front of our eyes

No you, now fuck off

>RTG is finished in the gaming GPU market. Instead they are profiting from miners and professionals and they will have extra money flowing in not only from GPU sales but from the success of Zen related products. This means they will have plenty of cash for further development of Navi and other exciting GPU related products.

FTFY

It's magick.
Low quality bait.

>wait for Navi!

dont you mean as little? margins on cutdowns are way lower as the cost to produce is the same as they derive from the same wafer as the big ones
they might wanna sell as many as possible to reduce throwaway

>AMD has promised to send me a Radeon Pro SSG when it launches
That's some silly way to get review sample.

Back to Sup Forums Shoo! Shoo!

>trigged AMDrone

AMD is as fucking evil and awful as Intel and Nvidia but freetards and Sup Forums tier shills continue to claim otherwise. Thank god I'm not a fucking prosumer, having to choose between two electric furnaces in order to do your work has to be a nightmare.

they learned from 1800x marketing failure
if they pushed 1700 first it would've been much smoother launch

CPUs =/= GPUs.
You need to launch the biggest and the baddest GPU first to sell the rest of the lineup.

people look at prices not at "whatever $2000 gpu I will never buy" can do

Fuck your shitty Vega with us readyboost

Like the Vega fe flop?

>"people"
Gaymen GPUs are bought by (man)childer. Marketing is all that matters.

>Hurr Durr AMD's obvious reasons for why they are pushing Vega 56 over Vega 64 is irrelevant to why they are pushing Vega 56 over Vega 64

I love how prior to release of Poolaris you shills were naming GN as one of few trust worthy reviewers cuz of your delusional fear of conspiracy against your flopping products just so you can start calling Steve shill.

The Obvious reason they have for pushing 56 over 64 is because , as all the leaks have suggested, 64 adds very little performance at a huge amount of extra powerdraw.

Not your imaginery bullshit reason

Steve please.
Show me the benchmarks please.

He means that Linux drivers are absolute garbage.

>Hurr durr I don't even realize what will happen if RTG manage to fix the memory bandwidth issues on Vega 64

>Just wait!

How about AMD just releases a product that functions well at launch

The entire Pro lineup works as well as it gets.

So why can't they get it right at launch with Vega

RTG are pretty smoll to do everything at once.

So Vega is a faulty product at launch

RX Vega is not even launched yet, user.

Muh secret features

Like fe shit? They even cloned fe with some frontier shit name just to clone Nvidia fe. Fuck you knock off Indian products

I bought a gayman gpu for games. All I did was look at benchmarks from a couple of sources and then compare prices. I imagine many do the same, although I've seen a few people who believe GeForce cards are always just better at all price points.

For fuck's sake how does Vega have worse bandwidth efficiency than Fiji.

>Muh secret features
A glaring obvious memory bandwidth bug is not a secret feature. That being said, if RTG is able to fix it, Vega 64 will see significant performance gains as it appears to be totally memory bound in gaming performance.

It's probably software bugs because self-evidently that regression could not have been intended and if it was a hardware bug there was plenty of time for a respin.

There is one outlandish theory that its the result of RTG sandbagging like motherfuckers by using the (locked) BIOS to disable one of the two HBM2 memory controllers and thus artificially limit the memory bandwidth to a maximum of 307 GB/s, but I think that's a little far fetched (though it would be utterly hilarious if true).

That's outlandish as all hell because they'd be locking out half of the VRAM channels to L2 cache and starving the chip so hard we wouldn't be seeing 250-300w power use.

Yeah, I think there are BIOS issues rather than anything else. The real question is to what extent RTG can fix them.

c-states are also disabled
so power use in this range is normal for a chip pulling current constantly
same happens when you disable c-states and HPET for ryzen it goes in overdrive 200w
AMD reuses IP across departments all the time, it might have ryzen power delivery regulators which are pretty good

so I have a little bit of hope for vega for now because AMD themselves never stated official TDP on it

There was numbers, specifically loaded CPU temperatures. Steve likes numbers. Naughty naughty, no numbers allowed.

Kill yourself.

Lol

techpowerup.com/236055/amd-asks-reviewers-to-prioritize-vega-56-over-vega-64

freetards not anymore. fx was last free cpu

#rekt

sapphiretech.com/productdetial.asp?pid=AE163547-6889-4073-BBF6-9DB2C45BB233&lang=eng
>750 Watt Power Supply (Suggestion)

oh fuck that, I guess I'll stay with 390 Nitro

you're such a salty bitch you know that

oh apparently nitro has same power reqs on sapphire site,still keep a hope for 250w mark

>AMDs slides show up to 30% memory bandwidth usage reduction when DSBR is active. This clearly shows that their tile-based renderer and on chip-binning ("fetch once") is working properly.
>However we don't know whether the occlusion culling ("shade once") is enabled and/or working. Per pixel occlusion culling would directly reduce the number of pixel shader invocations, and would bring other gains (reduced ALU/TMU use) in addition to reduced memory bandwidth use. "Shade once" should improve performance also in games that aren't memory bandwidth bound.
Sasuga sebbbi.
So can anyone guess where exactly did AMD fuck up?

I believe the current best theory is RTG actually has implemented most of the bandwidth saving features in Vega (e.g. primitive culling and DSBR) but Vega is still being held back by ~20-30% regressions vs. Fiji in raw memory bandwidth, effective texture bandwidth, and texel fill rate.

The remaining question is whether the memory bandwidth issues can be fixed by BIOS updates, because as it stands Vega 64 is leaving a crap ton of performance on the table by being so heavily memory bandwidth bottlenecked. Based on what we know, if you increased Vega's memory bandwidth to match Fiji, Vega would instantly get ~20% faster in games.

Right now Vega has the same effective memory bandwith as 1080...
...and performs the same.
I wonder how exactly did RTG fuck up effective memory bandwith so much?
Something to do HBCC implementation?

Who knows? The one hope is that the fuck up is in software and could thus be fixed with BIOS updates sooner or later. We aren't going to find out much until Monday anyway, and even then we have to hope someone has enough sense to put it through the B3D Suite.

>even then we have to hope someone has enough sense to put it through the B3D Suite
G*rmans.
G*rmans will do it.
Hopefully.
The rest will be too busy publishing clickbait articles.

Why is Steve Burke so openly hostile against AMD? You can easily tell in any video in which he reviews anything AMD-related.

What is the real reason AMD can't hold a candle to Intel? Every time they hype something it's a fucking bust. i don't get it

He want's to be (((Kyle))) since Kyle himself sold his soul to mommy.
They literally crucified Intel at every price point in every market besides laptop one where they have no products yet.

HotChips soon, faggots.
Maybe Samsung will start talking their low=cost HBM again.

I never get that feeling from his videos.Why does AMD prop up linus for little kids? That vega video was like daycare

>Break embargo
>AMD doesn't send them samples anymore
>Write snarky paragraph about how "apparently" you're not allowed to break embargos
What fucking retards.