Upgrades

So I have had an Intel i5 3570k for as long as I've been building computers. Decided it's finally time I upgraded my processor. I don't know a lot about current CPU's, need some insight. Was thinking of getting the Intel i7 7700k with a new mobo to boot.

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Wait for Coffee Lake.

Take the i7 if you want pure gaming, ryzen 7 1700 if you also like multitasking/content creation and don't mind lower framerates
Also you might want to wait for Coffee Lake

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you DO know that in order to do an upgrade of that magnitude, you do also need to swap your motherboard? The CPU sockets have changed between almost each new Intel i-core generation; only the 2000 and 3000 series shared the same socket.

Plus, i5 3570K is still more than enough to run ANYTHING out on the market at this point. Hell, many people are still hoarding i5 2500K chips for similar reasons.

If you REALLY need to upgrade, grab i7 3770K. All it really gives you is the Hyperthreading, but sometimes that's a big help as well. You can also OC it to heavens.

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My current setup carries my gaming, I'm thinking of getting into streaming and video editing and the only bottleneck on my comp is my processor so I figured it was time I got a new one.
I've had the same mobo, ram, processor since I built this computer, I was planning on upgrading all three at once as those are the only things I've never swapped in my tower.
I'm not opposed to AMD, I've just only ever known intel, I don't know any comparisons or what makes one better. Figured stick with what i'm familiar with, unless I find an AMD I know can compete.

Ryzen 5 1600, streaming and video editing will be better on more cores

If you're streaming then you want Ryzen 7

> Decided it's finally time I upgraded my processor.
Your decision was wrong, stop it.

>So I have had an Intel i5 3570k for as long as I've been building computers
You have to be 18+ to be here.

AMD Ryzen 1600, Intel is utter shit this time

First: What GPU do you have? Your i5 still have some life left in it.
Second: If you really want to upgrade, buy a used i7 3770K and a better cooler (unless the one you already have is sufficient), and overclock that fucker.

Upgrading to a modern CPU in your case, you have to buy a new motherboard and ram as well. It could become quite costly.

I switched from a regular 3570 to a 7700k earlier.
It's a really huge difference if you know where to look for.
In particular, playing CPU demanding games while also doing a lot of CPU intensive tasks like streaming and keeping my million chrome tabs open doesn't affect performance anymore.
The jump from DDR3 to DDR4 also surprised me, programs load up much quicker and system feels snappier overall.

I don't know if it was worth it overall to put so much money into upgrading CPU + mobo + RAM just for a few improvements here and there, I guess it depends on how you use your computer.
But if you don't notice yourself crippling your own productivity because of CPU usage I'd say wait for a while like the other anons said.

Sorry about my techtard moment here. Everywhere I look intel has more processing power, and I don't know what makes this so great but it has hyperthreading. I know AMD has more cores and still good power. Is it just the fact that is has more cores that makes it better at rendering and multitasking? Again not hating AMD, I might get one, I just want to understand why cause looking at specs it doesn't look right.
I have an EVGA 980Ti 6gb. My CPU fan is cooler master V8 GTS, but I've never messed with overclocking and like I said i'm looking to get into streaming/video editing and I'm pretty sure my CPU is lacking for that area of work.

If you are dead set on a new Mobo wait for coffee lake. Either it will be amazing and worth the upgrade or not amazing and you can get a 7700k on discount.

Microcenter will be your friend, they usually knock off $70-$100 on Mobo+CPU packages, and right now it is $130 off Skylake bundles so you may get that on a Kaby once coffee comes out.

Ryzen has hyperthreading as well and just looking at specs doesn't tell you much about how it'll actually perform in real life.

I figured, that's why I don't trust Benchmark tests and why I came here instead of youtube.

Don't do it senpai.

Clock it up to the last and wait for Nav- I mean Coffee Lake and/or Zen2.

With my 3570K @ 4.7 I'd have to OC the 7600K to 5Ghz in order for it to be any faster, Ivy Bridge is only roughly 500Mhz behind in terms of IPC.

The 7700K seems a bad buy especially right now since the 6c/12t 8700K is just around the corner, particularly if you're looking at workstation use.

>Ivy Bridge is only roughly 500Mhz behind in terms of IPC
I don't think you understand what IPC is.

I'm not going to ask you to teach me, I'm sure I can find step by steps on google. but let me ask you this then, is OC relatively easy? I just don't want to get in over my head, plus when you start OC, isn't that when you should start looking into water-cooling to keep the temp down? never Overclocked before.

Ryzen had good ipc as well hyperthreading. It only lacks high clock speeds which comes with zen2 next year and you can use the same mobo for it. Look up gamer nexus' review on streaming, the 7700k is not really fit for it, however the r7 1700 is slightly overkill. If you want to stay on Intel side, wait for coffe lake since it's new platform and hopefully it won't be dead on arrival.

My quick way of saying that a 4.5Ghz 3570K would perform at around the same level as a 4Ghz 7600K
As long as you have a Z77 board it's pretty easy. As long as you have something better than a stock cooler you should be fine for temps unless you're trying to push 5Ghz.

see overclocking.guide/ivy-bridge-socket-1155-oc-guide/

For safe voltage limits. I didn't do any RAM OC'ing, so all it took was
CPU turbo Multiplier: x47
CPU Vcore: 1.3V
CPU Max Turbo TDP: 250W

in my BIOS and that was pretty much it.

You can do modest OC on air cool, and honestly you won't feel the difference in extreme OC in daily use. But then there is the pride and.self worth derived from seeing your benchmarks reach otherworldly heights.

I have a cooler master V8 GTS cooler so its pretty far from stock. My current mobo is actually an ASUS P8 Z77-V LK. all I really want to boost is my CPU so I can run the apps I need to stream my games in the background without being noticable, so probably wouldn't need much.

OC on the RAM made a much bigger difference to me. Pumping it up to DDR4 3000 is hugely different than DDR3 2133

Plus high clocked RAM

Well you'll hit 4.7-4.8 no problem on that cooler.

If it's stock right now it will make a huge difference in performance. I can't say for sure if it will fix your streaming issue because I don't do that but it's worth doing before upgrading anyway.

How much more difficult is OC'ing RAM compared to a CPU? I feel like it's also harder to cool RAM than a CPU

It's more down to the memory you have, up the voltage, loosen the timings, and up the frequency, but it's trial and error for how far you can go.

Cooling shouldn't be much of an issue especially if they're plated.

where the fuck is the bottleneck

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it's still as good as a new one

your cpu is fine
get a better gpu and a ssd