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>2017
>still using CFL lamps

How embarrassing.

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you don't understand business, do you? CFL is dirt cheap to manufacture, it was milked as long as it could be, and will still continue to be sold in third world countries for the next few decades.

>using lamps at all
>not using your computer monitor to light the room

This. Buying 1000 CFL bulbs looks a lot better on the balance sheet than buying 1000 LED bulbs. Even if it's way more expensive in the long run, too many companies only prioritize as far as the next quarterly or yearly report.

>gizmodo
consider an hero

usage costs are higher for them. only a retard buys the cheapest thing without checking what using it will cost.

The 3rd world will still use burning metal with stolen power like it always has.

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>CREE

Get back in your eastern european cave

>using anything other than incandescent

But they literally invented the blue LED

>lumecomunists get out

what the fuck is a gs unit

please tell me thats just power supply switching noise and not some human feelable jitter

Nice meme just fuck your sinusoidal current right up.

At least in brazil, there is quite a surge of CFLs everywhere.

I don't know, but CFLs can screw with certain old equipment because the wavelengths happen to interfere with infrared.
youtu.be/OjmqTBILs6g

>using air and wire for real and imaginary power

opinion disirregardlessed

gs is just some rating that they came up with I'm just talking about the noise these make.

This is fixed with big capacitors installed by your power company.
They don't even charge you extra for the "dirty power".

Unless you're a big ass factory, then they DO charge extra and you have to clean the mess up.

>LED
Enjoy your eye cancer.
ehp.niehs.nih.gov/122-A81/

Don't have an oscilloscope on hand at the moment to test it myself.

LED's aren't usually too bad anyway but CFL's are just horrible.

>proper power supplies don't exist

There are plenty of LED lights with PF >0.90. Don't buy chink shit with capacitive droppers.

Also plug those chinkshit capacitive droppers lights into a UPS, you'll get a flaming surprise when it goes on battery power.

There already are standard units

tl;dr version: dont stare into leds with dilated pupils for hours on end.

CFL were always a huge scam. The premise that they will save you money in the long run is only valid if the CFL actually last that long... And most never did. I hate CFL so much, let me list the reasons why;

-Does not last as long as claimed. Not long enough to get your money back on the investment.

-Contain mercury. need specialised recycling facility to safely dispose of them.

-light spectrum is sub-par and not neaarly as good as xeon/halogen/incandescent. Colour reproduction is ridiculously bad.

-initial power-up use as much power as continuous runing of 7min. If you use it less than 15 min at a time (closet light), it use more electricity then incandescent.

-some of them have shit power-supply and usually end up oscillation in audible frequency over time. it's super annoying. Also, see shit electric pollution that can interfere with electronics.

This, most comfy.

>not recycling all bulb types

leds may be cool (lel), but problem with them is that nearly every manufacturer is too jewish to install $2 diffuser or make a proper reflector
so it's like miniature sun shining right into your eyes.
oh, and don't forget about fucking retards installing 100W led-module that's turned on whole night

It's this shit harmonics or power factor?

I'm jealous of East Europeans that can still buy incandescent in mass, legally.
Far better than LED and CFL, I don't care about 100W

>-Does not last as long as claimed. Not long enough to get your money back on the investment.
The average CFL has lasted me 5+ years and I don't buy expensive ones.

And don't forget that it emits UV light that slowly fucks with plastics, prints, and paintings and makes that ozone smell.

>air

What the fuck is "air" supposed to mean?

This. Looks way more confy.

Those stupid cfl/ incandescent are way more reliable than led

i ditched all of them in my house after 2 lit on fire, the built in transformers are terrible.

>CFL Lamp
>Compact Fluorescent Lamp Lamp

It was made by a subhuman with an IQ less than 70 that doesn't fully understand what is going on. "Air" is power lost as heat from the light into the air aka real power. "Wire" is the out of phase reactive power that doesn't actually get used but increases current thus increase heat dissipation in the wires of the utility company.

>DVD disks
>Digital Video Disc disks

>Windows NT technology
>Windows New Technology technology

And don't forget that it emits UV light that slowly fucks with plastics, prints, and paintings and makes that nasty ozone smell.

>ATM machine
>Automated Teller Machine machine

>one-year old news
Anyway, archive.is/M4pWV

>Sup Forums user retard

Okay, that makes more sense, thank you.

>calling reactive power and true power 'wire' and 'air'
>

>SSD Drive

i wonder, do they still advertise their light output relative to incandescent bulb wattage like they did with cfl's?
do they compare them to cfl's instead?

I bet you still haven't encountered a "SSD Disk" yet.

I've used LED lights for about 2 years, only one $3 GE died and it was the one above the stove getting covered in cooking grease and heat. It was the most used ones.

I bought my parents CFLs to replace all their incandescents and like 5 of them died after a year.

>by the end of 2016

>LED light
>Light Emitting Diode light

fucks with wifi & humans, depending on the person

I can't be in a room with them for more than an hour. makes me go crazy

>above the stove getting covered in cooking grease
This is why appliance bulbs are still legal.

LEDs come in different shapes and purposes. Light is just shorthand for light-bulb.

rofl
wow who knew you weren't supposed to stare at the direct light sources?

all them hours I spend looking at the sun I thought I was getting more vitamins

or you could have just called it a bulb instead of a light

that's why it will shift to the third world
they take our handmedowns and rely on our old garbage to function
it's pitiful
at least in some places they are smart enough to be able to jack into the power grid and illegally steal power

Take it apart, it's probably something simple like a bad solder joint.

hahahah fuck off

you technology hipsters better kill urselves

I wish they still sold incandescent light bulbs here.
I can afford the power, and I find they produce the nicest light.

difference between CFL and LED is like 3W. utterly meaningless.

You sound like those retarded hippies that protested a nearby celltower saying it's causing headaches and discomfort to nearby residents that were told the tower was inactive and unpowered for years.

I've literally sat in a blue room for over 5 years and I'm the only person in my family without glasses or vision problems in general and I'm in my 30s. I also played video games in the dark infront of bright screens for like 25 years.

tell me about the lumens per watt now faggot

afaic the banning of incandescent bulbs was nothing more than a giveaway to utility companies so they wouldn't have to upgrade their shitty (vulnerable) infrastructure and save them from promoting and lowering the cost of a real energy source (nuclear).

>a 50% reduction is utterly meaningless

You can still find them or halogens if you just look.

Incandescents reign supreme in places like Alaska or other frozen regions. 100w heaters in every light socket.

There's a little mom & pop style electronics shop nearby that advertizes them. I'll bet you plenty old buggers still sell them if you ask.

East Europe too, LED lights became cheap here recently but no one is buying.
Me included, incandescent just give nicer color and are more comfortable to look at.

Put them in a bathroom
>CFLs die in less than a year
>LEDs last decades

Drop them
>LED doesn't even have scuff marks
>CFL gives you poisoned air for years to come

Why is it so hard to find E27 LEDs with 15W or more?
It's like (((they))) want me to buy CFLs.

Fucking LED bulbs
>doesn't work with normal dimmers
>shitty 50hz flickering everywhere
how hard is it to put a fucking cap in there?

>real energy source (nuclear)

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA, no.

>CFL gives you poisoned air for years to come
old meme is old

Ideally, you want a FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER (and a cap).

Enjoy your intermittent power then. Germany fell for the anti-nuke meme and now needs a new coal plant to make up for the losses in baseload.

I forgot to add, GE originally was planing to counter LED technology with next-gen incandescent miniaturized in high pressure chambers. They invested over 200 milions in the technology and it was supposed to beat LED. Of cource, that technology never worked and they had to join in the LED game late, that's why most industrial designers don't really trust anything LED form them, it's a catchup-product offering.

They are supposed to last 25 years, you only start to see ROI after 7 years. (at least with local prices)

GE Lightning is a huge farce, don't buy form them.

That's still real.

>>CFLs die in less than a year
Wrong.

>>shitty 50hz flickering everywhere
This. CFLs flicker too, but isn't nearly as bad as when LEDs flicker.

So poor people get the best quality of light you can? Damn

>Why is it so hard to find E27 LEDs with 15W or more?

Literally took less than a minute to find
amazon.com/OUYIDE-Equivalent-Spiral-Daylight-3300LM/dp/B01EAB3P7Y/

>That's still real
not saying it isn't a problem, but for years? fuck no.
epa.gov/cfl/cleaning-broken-cfl

>>doesn't work with normal dimmers

They do, you just have to look for them. But normal dimmers are electrical cancer so don't use them.

>2020 - 3
>still not using comfy torch lighting

>
>>>CFLs die in less than a year
>Wrong.

CFL have a limited anounf of power-ups in their lifetime. if you switch them on-off once per day, they will last years. Flick them 10 times a day, they will last a year.

Leds have a terrifying potential for flicker due being diodes being fed AC power.
either you get half of the leds connected in an orientation with the others connected on the other, thus having those lights blinking alternately, OR you can get a really awful led that have all the leds pointed at the same direction and the thing delivers 25Hz

>But normal dimmers are electrical cancer
How so?

Don't buy the fucking cheapest chinkshit. LEDs with proper power supplies are both dimmable and drive constant current to the LEDs or high frequency PWM.

I hate lighting, I prefer a cave with glowing moss

Westinghouse literally just went bankrupt trying to build new nuclear memes. It's the most expensive power around.

>but muh lel low operating cost if the government pays for construction/disposal/decommissioning/disasters statistics from the nuclear companies!

Nuclear is cost-competitive if the regulations were actually in line with what is actually safe vs placebo and the environmental groups stopped suing the shit out of the utilities and abusing administrative procedures.

One uranium pellet contains as much energy as one ton of coal. Most expensive my ass.

>that's why most industrial designers don't really trust anything LED form them, it's a catchup-product offering.

Wut? You source LEDs from Cree or Lumecon, source a proper driver from china, and you put them in prudy packaging. There isn't a lot of R&D needed.

The only difference in brands is the quality of the drivers and heat dissipation.

URANIUM?! Don't they use those in nukes?!!

>>>CFLs die in less than a year
>Wrong.

Speaking from experience.

B-But what if the reactor explodes? HIROSHIMA 2.0!!111!

Yes, nukes also use water, better stop drinking it.

CFL was never good.

I don't believe you, unless you had some special use case. I've never seen a CFL die in less than 3 years of normal use.

youtube.com/watch?v=fWh2obSY0dQ

I don't live alone.

>Fucking LED bulbs
>>doesn't work with normal dimmers

Works with an app though.

>having to get out of bed to change light settings.