If you want help: >Assemble parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >State the budget for your build (and country if not USA) >List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate >Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs? How to assemble a PC, select components & more (outdated) wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC
CPUs: No i5 unless discounted >G4560 - poverty-tier builds >R3 1200 - Budget builds (R3 1300x - Good stop-gap between the 1500x and the 1200, only get a 1400 if you absolutely need multithreading >R5 1500x - Good but up to 1600 if you can >R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage; 1600x if you want higher stock clocks >R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use; Not for just gaming
GPUs: Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser >Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games >GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both >RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz >RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games >GTX 1070 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high >GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p >GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games >Vega soon.
RAM: >Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM >Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM
General: ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS! Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor. The Ryzen lineup comes with surprisingly good stock coolers. consider using them over any
Wow good timing. I resorted to /wsr/ for advice on my first build, and someone nicely pointed out OP made one.
I attempted for an 800 dollar build for gaming and for CAD. How did I do for the first time? Is there any where I can improve or recommendations? I would love to be able to squeeze more power out of it since right now pcpartpicker has me at 770 and I don't mind going over 800 much.
So I'm moving into an apartment for coming year of college. Unfortunately my landlord doesn't have the room I'm renting rigged for an ethernet connection, which means I have to buy a wifi adapter for my desktop. I've been looking at PCI adapters, and it got me thinking to just get a new CPU and MOBO with wifi included.
Should I? Here's what I'm running with now, is it time to start upgrading? Specifically, the MOBO and CPU?
Jaxon Mitchell
Man, building a Craigslist/eBay build is painful. All those great deals that you don't need/can't afford... Good luck mang.
Jaxson Lee
Get a ryzen 7, you need those extra cores. GPU doesn't really matter for streaming, just get whichever one gives you a smooth experience. Gamersnexus did a vide about streaming a week or so ago, you could check that out.
It's an option, yes. You'll need to replace that CPU soon if you want to do anything remotely taxing, so might as well do it now. You won't get good gaming performance without replacing the graphics card though, so if you care about that and are on a tight budget then blowing everything on a new processor is not the smartest idea.
Robert Powell
I was planning to just start upgrading now, and do it piece be piece. I was imagining to start with the CPU/MOBO, then get a new GPU, then SSD, then case, and just carry over my PSU. So the smartest option is just buy a PCI wifi adapter?
Luke Peterson
I want to upgrade my GPU, I currently have a radeon hd 7850. I've been looking at the GTX 1060 6gb, or the RX 580. My question is, do you think the price of these will go down once Vega comes out?
Carter Russell
>So the smartest option is just buy a PCI wifi adapter? or just get a motherboard with built in wifi
Sebastian Sanchez
Ultimately I think it is a budget decision. PCI cards are cheap, a new mobo+CPU+RAM is obviously way more. While your old i5 doesn't appear to be overclockable, I know people that get by fine on an i5 2400 Dell Optiplex. Old i5s are still fine for 1080p gaming if you're a gamer (Although you may look into a new GPU when prices fall again)
Benjamin Cox
Do we know anything about gpu price drops? Right now my r9 380 is still doing ok, might drop a setting here and there, but I'm kinda looking at some replacement. From what I know something similar to 380 now would be 1060/580, but right now those are extremely overpriced. Is there any info about volta and new mid range cards?
Michael Powell
likely, just wait as the release date is pretty close.
vega apparently has very good hash rates. If i had to guess 580s should at least be available at 250$ again, but dropping back to 170-190 is unlikely.
Asher Baker
Yeah, I noticed this bitcoin bullshit has jacked up the prices. Is there any consensus on when they should start dropping? I'll just live with my setup as is and buy the pieces for the new one over the coming months.
Connor Kelly
If you're going to replace your motherboard soon then the most cost effective option is replacing it now without buying additional hardware. It just means that you'll have to wait a bit before getting the new graphics card to improve your framerates.
If that wait takes too long in your opinion then get the wifi card and a new graphics card now. It depends on how much excess income you earn and what level of hardware you aim for.
James Clark
>inb4 i refresh amazon in 24 hours and vega is already sold out after a few minutes
Christian Price
Well the wifi card is happening regardless, I'll transfer it to the new build once the new one is done. If I buy a new mobo I'll have to get a new CPU, unless I just shelf it until I get the CPU, as I'd buy one to use with a ryzen chip.
Parker Russell
Gigabyte has B350 ITX board with wifi.
Kayden Powell
New mobo also means new RAM, which the price has gone up on. WiFi card is the smartest investment imo. You can always resell or reuse it later.
Henry Walker
What's the catalyst behind RAM going up now?
Adam King
shortages in NAND flash memory. Same thing is affecting the price of SSDs.
Tyler Lee
Just good ol' Supply v. Demand iirc. Something like the NAND chips are used in phones, SSDs, and RAM. Apple has a new phone soon...
Leo Diaz
Truly the worst time to upgrade/buy new pc. Prices of ram/ssd/gpu through the roof
Austin Myers
Does anybody know what speeds RAM runs at on Ryzen 7 1700x? They said 2667 MHz but they said that for the 1600 and I got over 3000.
Robert Miller
you do realize a 580 is better than a 1060
James Perez
In my experience it's more dependent upon the mobo and its BIOS. I am currently at 3200 MHz with my latest BIOS update. I haven't seen many going above 3200 though.
Josiah Price
Thanks. That is good to know.
Andrew Rivera
Just got an AM4-5300 and fan for $8, what the fuck do I do with this?
Evan Brooks
Sell it?
Luke Thomas
Not make a shitty build?
Luke Hall
just buy a computer dont go threw the trouble of building a computer is cheaper and safer to just buy one. i suggest a macbook personally
Asher Price
Not worth it.
William Perez
Thanks! I just wanted to know a general pathway so I can build around that.
Lincoln Scott
That's not very fun of you.
Nathan Green
My old Dell L800CXE retro system blew its ps after 16 yrs. I know dell totally fucked with the atx wiring back in those days so that if you tried to swap everything into a new case with psu you'd end up frying the mobo/components. So I hunted around and came across a converter cable that fixes Dell's screwed up wiring and allows a standard ATX ps to be used with existing parts. Question is has anyone ever used such a cable before? Theory behind it is sound so I see no reason why it shouldn't work. I know that back then there was no such thing as "80+" energy efficiency ratings so I dunno how modern psu's would take to an old board from 2001.
Adam Rodriguez
Fine have fun with it! I've messed around with some APU builds, and in 2017, I just don't have the creativity to find a use for them. HTPCs are a meme but you could try that. Try to make some kind of server or NAS setup if you get a mobo with gigabit ethernet.
In my experience though, FM2 boards tend to be unreliable.
Elijah Jones
I could get the cheapest coomponents possible and a 1337 gaymur case and try to sell it for like $200.
Ryan Hughes
hello please rate
Aiden Collins
-Corsair 300R -CX750 750w -MSI 990FXA GAMING -FX 8350 -16 GB HyperX Fury 1866mhz -Re-using Radeon HD7750 from my old rig -Cooler Master Hyper TX3
I've got everything except my CPU and RAM, been buying parts for cheap because poor. Can't wait to start building.
Grayson Martin
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Christian Ortiz
Rating depends on goal and price range. Tell us what you wqnt with this and your budget.
Oliver Long
if its one of those 24 pin to 8 pin mobo adapters they work fine.
Wyatt Smith
wat the fak
Elijah Collins
>he doesnt want a raid 0 with 10x 256GB shark cards
Anthony Sullivan
Well, I was going to use my new 5400 to make a terrible mini-itx build, but after seeing motherboard prices I might just try to resell it.
Kevin Perez
Any opinions on getting a refurbished 1060 for 200 american dollars?
Trying to make a decent gaming rig with it.
Jack Thomas
>FX 8350
Is there any way you could scrape together 80$ for a b350 am4 motherboad and 110$ an r3 1200?
Better build, better speed, much better energy efficieny, and a modern socket so you could upgrade again until 2020.
Joseph Butler
3GB or 6GB?
Nothing wrong with used components, so long as you see them working, but the 3GB is pretty fucking terrible and you are better off with a 1050TI.
Nathan Gomez
He'd also need $85 for 8GB og fast ram
John Hernandez
The RAM situation is bullshit, I remember back in 2016 it was like 80 bucks for a 16 gig kit.
Jaxon Roberts
What's the best ultracheap CPU? I'm talking
Oliver Morales
thanks. i was looking at a 3gb gpu, but it makes sense of it being shit.
Oliver White
NAND shortages are affecting ram and SSD prices
Dominic Sanders
Artificial shortages
Noah Morales
wouldn't surprise me. They do the same shit with diamonds. They're actually common as dirt.
Wyatt Harris
Plus it's old DDR3 that's been sitting around, I'm just lucky I got my MSI board for $100 with the way things are looking, and I don't even care for gaming shit, Originally wanted a 990FX-UD3, but everyone's being an asshole.
Connor Thomas
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Adrian Davis
Already have a good comp & want to get a laptop that won't quite make me want to gouge my eyes out.
Which would make the bigger difference with vidya? 7700hq (4core/8thread 2.8ghz) with a 5400rpm HDD or 7300hq (4core/4thread 2.5ghz) with a 7200rpm HDD ?
going for a 1050, an SSD for the OS, & 8gb ram as well.
Jose Anderson
either a core 2 quad Q9400 if you need 4 cores, or a A6-6400K if you don't.
Levi Gonzalez
Thanks.
Nathaniel Moore
What is going to stop intel from pulling the same illegal business practices as last time? Like paying companies such as dell a significant amount of money to sell a small percentage of amd processor? Or hell, not to sell amd processors all together?
Evan Jenkins
Userbenchmark says that the i5 7600k is better than the r7 1600 while costing less (at least in italy). Is that true?
Also should i upgrade now or wait for new releases? I'm using an i5 3570k.
Ayden Richardson
Hey, need some assistance with fans. I'd like to lighten up my case alittle with led fans. In front i would like to use Corsair hd120s or similiar but hd120's dont have SP version for radiators. Basicly my question is, is there a set fans that both have bot version SP and AF and can lightning can be controlled over a controller
Ayden Anderson
I think AMD shit relies heavily on OC'ing to be competitive atm. And last I heard, so long as it's got that, it's slightly better than intel's alternative.
Is that what you were looking at?
Caleb Bailey
Probably.
Well i don't want to OC since day one, so i guess i'll wait for newer models
All I should need is a hdmi cable and a win 10 key to run out of the box right?
Lincoln Smith
User benchmarks is pretty shit, and relies on simple retarded synthetic numbers.
The i5 has better single core but the R5 1600 blows it out of the water in multicore.
As far as pricing goes, in most of the world the i5 is at an irrelevant price point, but make sure you are not confusing an R5 and an R7.
Noah Young
You can run win10 with no key for as long as you want (full drivers, games, etc), but you get a watermark in the lower right and can't change desktop backgrounds.
Jonathan Gray
The ryzen based builds have a better upgrade path. Switch to 2*4GB unless you plan on picking up another 8GB soon.
Zachary Anderson
>win10 Don't do this
Colton Howard
>oc to 3.6ghz >set ram to profile xmp-2
help
Owen White
before and after
Charles Mitchell
Return everything to how it was
Benjamin James
I want to get a ryzen cpu but my only problem is that it's PGA and my hands shake so much specially when dealing with small fragile expensive stuff. How fragile are the pins on the cpu? I'd appreciate an example.
Landon Young
I'm planning on putting my PC on a surge protector I currently own. I assume it will run about 300W or above (if I overclock).
I don't have many outlets in my room, they are all spread out. Will connecting my build to the surge protector, connected to the outlet cause any hazard? Should it be placed on a separate outlet?
They're pretty stiff, but if you want to play it safe you can quickly place it on the socket, and nudge it till it drops in the holes.
Oliver Murphy
i don't even understand what the fuck
Cameron Jackson
>Ryzen 6 core going faster than an X79 6 core I know Sandy bridge E is old as fuck but compared to piledriver that's fucking cool.
Cameron Cooper
So it's been a while since I looked at consumer hardware. Why is every guide recommending amd now? Seems like just 6-12 months ago, Intel processors dominated the market.
James Sanders
I would reccomend displayport for monitors that can use it. Also get 1x8 if you plan to buy another of the same type, 2x4 if you don't.
Easton Martinez
AMD's new RYZEN stuff doesn't have sub core 2 duo performance, so AMD rigs are viable for gaming.
James Turner
Ryzen is good for its prices. AMD made a pretty strong comeback.
Nathaniel Reyes
Get whatever you need for a gaming PC, and a second computer to run the stream. Otherwise, 8 cores at least.
Owen Davis
AMD shrunk from 32nm to 14nm and shoved a bunch of cores that are properly soldered to the IHS
Suddenly intel has real competition
Jace Garcia
Ryzen 1600x vs i7 6700/7700, how well does it stack up for games? Are we talking equal performance, barely edges out, or does about 3/4 as much but dat price makes it worth it? I'm buying AMD over Intel regardless, just wanna know what I'm getting myself into.
Robert Miller
7700 is still better for pure MUH GAMES, but this could change, especially for shitty console ports, as both consoles have 6 core shit in them, so maybe we will get better multi-threading soon.
AM4 socket is good until 2020 as well so who knows what zen2 will bring. Meanwhile, coffee lake is not compatible with z200 series that the 7700 is on.
The 6700 seems rather irrelevant.
Jordan Robinson
I have a 670 FTW, an i5 4440 and 8gb of ddr3 which one these need an upgrade the most?
Justin Stewart
I'd say the 670. If you don't mind buying used an old 300 series Radeon or 900 series GTX card will do you some good.
Brayden Rogers
Rate my gayming/workstation build pcpartpicker.com/list/VK8Yjc I put a gtx 960 because it's the cheapest graphics card i found and all mid range cards are overpriced or out of stock. When will graphics cards go back to their normal price? Also should i get a SATA SSD or NVME M.2 SSD. Nvme rated speed is 2000mb while sata ssd is 500mb how true is this?
Isaac Williams
Poorfag here. My power supply died.
Part picker lists my draw at 218. I have an older hp psu rated at 220. How stupid would I be to try to run it or should I just suffer until I can replace it?
Bentley Hall
Wouldn't recommend stressing that oem psu, get a large cheapshit psu like a 750w CX or EVGA N1 750w and be comfy.
Jason Walker
Good build, though the PSU could be a bit overkill. I would recommend maybe a 1060 but if you can get a 960 for $50 that's good. As for SSDs, you should research that and see if it benefits your use case. Don't fucking run that. Risk/reward is way too high considering PSUs aren't terribly expensive.