Git mining niggers i hope you all die

git mining niggers i hope you all die

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meant to say git fucked mining niggers

You forgot to mention the gold standard for mining the RX 580 is already down to 23.838, so 35.861 on shitty beta drivers before any real optimization is pretty impressive.

tl;dr minerfags aren't going anywhere.

Etherium has been on a bear trend since July. A lot of 3 months used cards are going to dump in the Fall.

yea, at some point a shit-ton of burnt out gpus will hit the market. i wonder how prices will change when supply is huge and their quality very questionable after mining.

i'll keep my eye on them but my gtx 750 is still alright.

In how bad of a condition are those cards usually? if they're undervolted and undercloced or something are they gonna be good to buy?
Are there certain cards that are going to be safer to buy than others?

They're not going to be in condition that is too terrible, just make sure they have the right BIOS and do some simple artifact testing (Furmark would do)

I hope you realize the newest mining drivers brings the Rx580 back to 31MH @ 75w.

Vega gets 35MH tops @ 350w.

Whatever you're mad about, miners aren't the cause.

They are reversing the ice age. Mining profit will decline by 30% overall but will remain profitable until late 2018.

New miners won't make roi but miners who started in June will make a nice profit.

They should be really good. A miner wants to save energy and keep their money generators safe and happy, so they'll be run on low voltages and with plenty of cooling.

Furmark is actually way more stressful than mining is.

super disappointed amd needs to do something through their drivers about mining these cards have super good compute performance and no one can buy them because of miners

im not mad at all im laughing because there was a rumor saying these cards would get 70-100MH mining Etherium so a bunch of miners just wasted $500 on shitty cards for mining

>Eth miners got memed into Vega like everyone elase

>implying they won't just return the cards for a full refund

Miners fucking do that anyway in normal circumstances. Buy up a batch of cards, mine the shit out of them for a few weeks and then return them.

These cards were made for miners. What you bitching about. Vega sucks balls at gayming

This is where it starts to het weird.

see pic related

What retailers would even allow that? I know Newegg has a restocking fee.

Most retailers outside of Burgerstan, because it's the law. Not every nation's population is made up of corporate slaves with no rights, user.

Yeah. Amd created a Frankenstein that not even they understand. They threw in tons of fancy new untested tech in. And now we just have to cross our fingers and hope their drivers fix their mess. There is one game benchmark were the Vega performs worth than a fury x

And that would be where? In Europe if you opened the package you can't return the stuff

Their coin systems going to zero is more likely which will be worst than death for many of them.

Reminds me of what TOR/Dark net users said right before the government long dicked them.
> mfw brainlets believe government doesn't invest in and have the technical capability to infiltrate, manipulate, and shutdown distributed data schmes
> mfw brainlets think coin systems are actually secure just like brainlets believe TOR was until the government compromised distributed nodes and the protocol

I'm not nor is anyone besides miners likely to touch used supply when that occurs. When this hits demand will drop for new supply and GPU manufacturers will drop prices and incentivize people to buy new... As nvidia said : they don't make money off used card sales. Miners are likely going to get fucked from both sides.

Insufficient cooling and detrimental environmental conditions...

AMD is not RTG and RTG is actually writing specific ROMs and drivers for miners. The fact that the drivers are such a mess as well as the software stack w.r.t to features they said it would have at launch yet they have enough time, in the two week gap between 64 launch and 56 to write custom drivers/ROMs for miners examples where RTG is going with these cards.

kek

All that tinfoil.

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i hope AMD does work more with developers as they announced. ryzen brought them back to life and now they have to use this as a starting point for vega optimisations. i see a lot potential and really really look forward to Far Cry 5

how much does it cost for AMD or NVIDIA to actually manufacture a GPU? i imagine the manufacturing part is actually super cheap and they actually have giant factory sized crypto mines making a recent profit right now

>Miners are likely going to get fucked from both sides.
Good

Vega is crap-tier like the 1080Ti. It costs too much and eats too much power to justify that small gain.

Miners aren't getting it. AMD simply doesn't have enough units to go around (HBM2 supply issues). It is the HD 5850/5870 shortage all over again.

I would pay more money for card manufacturers to have a system on their cards that melts the silicon if you try to mine on it

I'd pay money for your mother to sit her fat ass on my face for an hour which one is more likely to happen.

Cards don't actually get to bad from mining. At most you'd have to replace the fans. The rest should be fine.

However I'd prefer to buy new.

LMAO what is going on here

AMD giving us a preview of their future finewine activated features driver which will render all NVidia cards dead

Vega architecture was made for the pro ssg so they can print money. The gaming cards were an afterthought, and they are still selling pretty well.

Eh I don't care as long as 7nm Navi isn't a mess

Oh it will be at least at launch.

We will still have shit yields at launch and even 3 years later we'll have to fight with miners for stock.

Mining difficulty should be way higher by then.

yaaaaaaaaaay

i honestly hope the whole industry tanks

They should be able to pull 60 to 70mh.
75% more CU than Polaris, and clocks are over 25% higher.

Its totally anomalous that Vega is doing so poorly here. The fact that power consumption is so high while hashing throughput is so low shows a major pipeline stall happening.

GCN has always performed well in the DIRT games. Their lighting model uses a lot of compute, and its complimented by GCN's massive texture filtering capacity. Thats why AMD's cards perform so well in these games. Even back when the 7970 came out this was happening.

pretty much this, all of AMD's recent tech is geared towards the professional sector

Nvidia sucks at Dirt, but that's really nitpicking

wrong, europoor here
In my country a store is obligated to accept a return on products that follow the certain conditions:
>14 days or less after buying
>intact, no sign of wear
>return every item bundled, including manual
>receipt

the only people who'll buy rx Vega for mining are teenagers who have inheritance money and don't know what to do with it. 350w per hour is too high a power draw to make a profit.

>buttmad manchild gaymer is getting fucked in the ass by cryptoniggers
>he bitches about it and throws tantrums on Sup Forums
kek

Bruh what in the fuck is that picture

she didn't age well.

muh dick

The highest performing one in that pic is also the one with 200w power draw.

Dirt 4 is shader intensive and probably benefits a lot from instruction prefetch (monolithic shaders?).

A lot of review sites tested games with other post processing AA that wouldn't have eaten up as nearly as much bandwidth as MSAA. DiRT 4 is just an odd one where the ALU's performance is pretty much fully exposed for GCN and memory bandwidth actually starts to matter

This is what happens when games are using the "raw compute power" of the graphics card instead of some meme shit technology like DirectX11 API bullshit

Vega 56 has twice the compute power (teraflops) over 1080Ti

Looks like a hag from The Witcher

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>LMAO what is going on here
He used cmaa not msaa.

Why don't more shitgame devs use compute over opengl and directx crap?

pls make it go away

Wrong

Pic related is what happend.

Also correct.

Those rumors specifically said it would get this performance by using a new instruction set.
Mining software hasn't been adapted to the new instruction set yet.

>1080 Ti
>8GB
You should've made the "Ti" part a bit darker colour lad.

what's stopping AMD to give money to developers that they do the same in their game?

not even a miner, but with the blockchain drivers you get 37/38 with the 64

Not worth it when you factor in the upfront cost and extra power consumption.

It the same problems that hurt the 1080Ti and Titans at mining.

>Butthurt gaymer blaming the wrong party
super kek

It is scalpers who are buying up the extremely limited supply of cards and AMD simply doesn't have enough units to supply channel.

mwf, when Vega 64 had a fucking paper launch and AMD RTG had a convenient scapegoat for it a.k.a "Miners".

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Is NiceHash even good to use?

mining is a hobby not a get rich scheme. with that mindset, mining has just started.

cryptocoins were concptualized as a "hobby", experiment. They became literal get rich quick schemes due to greed. And boy oh boy, do not skimp the emphasis on that "quick".

The theoretical basis for cryptocoins are so awesome, the one thing no one ever anticipated was the greed factor. Satoshi, or whomever may be credited for the white papers, might be brilliant but they failed so hard to grasp the subtlelties between "creating money" and "creating more money by being faster than the unwashed masses".

>2017
>still measuring hash rate in MH/s
what's it like for you humans advancing at an inferior rate?

it's a perfect storm scenario with several feedback loops.
big miners (straight from the suppliers)>scalpers (bots on big retailers)>miners (bots)>scalpers (10-100 from random etailers, varying countries)> lucky few endusers (f5 launch day)>ebay>go back to step 1

It doesn't matter if they might still be "OK".

You don't fuck another man's girl and you don't play on another man's GPU

what if AMD is hoarding the gpus for their own farms in some undisclosed location with very cheap electricity?