Official altTech thread

we need to make new brands to compete with the corporate giants in technology im going to list some new altTech company's in this thread.

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joindiaspora.com/
posteo.de/en/signup
kek.gg/i/3g2z6d.png
kek.gg/i/67YQQx.jpg
archive.is/gBJ8i
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Anonymizing_yourself#Fingerprinting
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Firefox#Notable_add-ons
panopticlick.eff.org
tox.chat
shitposter.club.
social.guhnoo.org
friends.nico/
pawoo.net
mashable.com/2017/04/04/mastodon-twitter-social-network/#dDV9B0KfWiqs
hackernoon.com/mastodon-is-dead-in-the-water-888c10e8abb1
media.urbit.org/whitepaper.pdf
github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/issues/426
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

There's vid me to compete with youtube

There's minds to compete with facebook and twitter

There's proton mail to compete with gmail

... And YouTube and Patreon etc

What's an instant messaging application that actually encrypts everything end-to-end, stores nothing?

I don't want to use (((discord))) any longer, especially since they monitor your conversations for anything they disagree with politically and then ban you if they find it

Bitchute and vid me can compete with youtube

There's Sup Forums to compete with Reddit

I dont know but we need more nee tech company's

vid me don't seem very user friendly for normal users. It's 100% for video creators... I can't find any simple way to do any searches or anything. Will likely not use it, it's unusable for anyone who want to WATCH videos and not make them.

Bitchute seems more user friendly, but it's ugly, slow and has horrible ui (pressing categories just moves you to the footer and you have to look for a while before you see that the footer has a list of categories as links)

Both are trash.

Mods, nazis are leaking again and they ask for tech support!

Google is trash too, nobody can compete with them 1:1 but they can't be allowed to control things any longer.

We need to enter a new era of tech without SJWs.

how about no you disgusting street shitter?
>hurr guys we need to fight aganist tech giants
>uses Samsung phone with Android to browse with Chrome
I also recommend GNU Social and Diaspora instead of your disgusting centralized "minds"

Minds is god-like though.

Sup Forums is the new leddit

then what's the new Sup Forums

Vid me has a nice layout
When I say altTech I dont mean alt right
Just alternative company's that can compete or start to.compete with the established brands dominating the web.

>We need to enter a new era of tech without SJWs.
Identity politics are fundamentally rooted in the failings of American society. This is a bigger hornet's nest than you seem to think, the real world isn't a Tumblr blog.

I just signed up for a minds account im still testing it out

Oy vey, use my botnet, GOYIM. Also let your wives get fucked by dindus too
I won't tell you about my secret club

Well its more then just the sjw problem
There is a whole market out there that is available for people to try competing with the big guys and create another financial internet boom.

Forgot the pic

Bitmitigate to compete with cloudflare

And that stops people from making Google alternatives how?

>We won't censor you
or
>We will hunt you down and delete you if you disagree, otherwise shape/throttle/demonetize you until you leave on your own so we can pretend we didn't censor you
The first one will always win long term. The problem right now is just that the big monopolies are hard to compete with on a technological level

At least get some good designers and UI...

These youtube "competitors" might as well run their service on telnet and run their movies and videos like

telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl

>Vid me has a nice layout

Not for normal users, the landing page is filled with "Make money by making videos" and a call to video creators to join, there is not a single video there, just a link to a bunch of channels. It's fast and functional, but looking like that it will never get any users. I don't have time to figure out how to join or anything like that. I just want to see videos, if I want to join then I do it later. And I don't make videos so I don't see a reason to join... Where are the videos? It's a shit website. Anyone who joins it is not going to have any traffic except people who manage to navigate that confusing mess.

It's a website made 100% to upload videos and 0% to actually watch videos.

tell me
I've been here all summer

Gab ai just raised a million dollar's
There could be another internet boom waiting to happen.

Wire
Xmpp+otr

None of these sites are going anywhere unless big names start using them.

Contact the site and let them know your issue with the layout we need a new tech boom.
We need a altTECH revolution

The names will come here and there giving the site a quick boost
Gab ai is experoencing user growth.

Designers are usually women or homo/metrosexuals, if not outright trannies and genderfluidqueerspirits. It's a female-minded discipline because it's fundamentally about understanding and relating to people. To me, the typical monopoly interface is child-like, patronizing and insulting, but this is what people seem to like and I can't understand it.

SJW places are probably always going to have better interfaces.

Say the magic words first.

Question -

Can Gab be successful as a mobile web site?

I think the need for dedicated apps is diminishing as mobile phones become more powerful

Alt right isn't very smart because they got scammed by a service ran by a kike, again. Just slap free speech on anything and they'll support it without question.

>beta minds

also fuck off phoneposters

>Contact the site and let them know your issue with the layout we need a new tech boom.

I don't want to do work, these guys should be able to figure that out themselves when they see nobody is watching any videos. They could bring someone in and make them try to figure out how to watch a video.

I dunno how they do now... Log onto their AWS account and figure out the direct link to every video that people upload?

>We need a altTECH revolution

Yeah, I think so too... Not good to have monopolies.

>To me, the typical monopoly interface is child-like, patronizing and insulting, but this is what people seem to like and I can't understand it.

They do a lot of testing and see what makes people look at videos and stay looking at different videos. The interface is engineered and not really as soft as you think.

Their designers pump out tons of different designs, they try everything out with different people and record their usage statistics and iterate the design based on what works best.

>SJW places are probably always going to have better interfaces.

Only if non-SJW places don't take it seriously.

vidme is cucked, ignore them

>They do a lot of testing and see what makes people look at videos and stay looking at different videos. The interface is engineered and not really as soft as you think.
>Their designers pump out tons of different designs, they try everything out with different people and record their usage statistics and iterate the design based on what works best.
I know they do this. And they come up with a design that works best for the majority, don't forget women and your typical hipster faggot are a large part of that. That doesn't mean it suits everyone. Reddit is good for the majority seemingly, as is facebook

Any google design insults me. Even down to the words they use

>dollar's

>GNU Social, a social media where you can host your own server is a botnet
Rabbi stop this nonsense

>Bitchute and vid me can compete with youtube

How decentralised is Bitchute?

It's more like Ethereum than Bitcoin?

>That doesn't mean it suits everyone.

Could easily make the website to have designs that are perfect per user. At least google can just look up interests, software they use and so on (and who knows, maybe they already do) and then in the future you get a youtube page that looks like vim and where you can navigate using vim commands or whatever.

>And that stops people from making Google alternatives how?
Nothing.
Successful Google alternatives? Everything.

Fuck off normalfag if you're married

It already exists. decentralized social media where people can set up their own "hub" or server joindiaspora.com/

Interesting technology, but also suffer on the lack of user-friendly UI, and they promote themselves with technical jargon so it's not something the general public wants to touch. Looks confusing and overtly technical, but interesting tech.

Once something looks up your interests to customize yourself it's already irredeemable.

I would actually be fine with the typical patronizing cartoon face no sharp edges lots of happy mind-clearing white space interface as long as it respected my freedoms (as in free speech, not as in freedom or free beer).

Or it could just let you radically change the interface, or design your own.

what do you mean by "already"? GNU Social exists too, it is not in alpha state or something, it's usable and is funded by GNU instead of a company poppet out of nothing

>Once something looks up your interests to customize yourself it's already irredeemable.

Sure, for US... But the general public would love it and it's the only way to really get a broad user base. Or you could do some GUESSWORK or iteratively change the design based on how the individual uses the website and just have tons of designs laying around or construct a css file for each user..

Use irc and connect to a server over tls.

>There's proton mail to compete with gmail
Also Posteo
posteo.de/en/signup

>Nazis
The Nazis died out in the last century, get over it you war-mongering commie spawn

they have mobile apps but they got kicked out by both, applel und jewgle for "hate speech".

Search:
>qwant
>startpage
>searx
>duck duck go look up the founder

Mail
>cock.li
>ProtonMail
>Posteo
>Tutanota
>your own

Browsers
>kek.gg/i/3g2z6d.png (superior list)
>kek.gg/i/67YQQx.jpg (for furfags)

Collaborative documents
>quip
>turtl
>ether pad (eg: notes.typo3.org or etherpad.net)
>microsoft office online (lol)

Image Upload/Edit
>kek.gg

Video sharing
>hooktube
>bitchute.com
>vid.me
>dtube.video

Social
>mastodon (join one away from normies, eg: niu.moe)
>gab.ai
>minds
>diaspora

Image Upload/Edit
>kek.gg

Google CDN avoidance
>Decentraleyes

Ad and script blocking
>uBlock Origin

Share links without gibbing clicks
>archive.is

Android
>droid-break.info

How to hosts file (lol, just block google bro):
>archive.is/gBJ8i

Reading:
>wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Anonymizing_yourself#Fingerprinting
>wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Firefox#Notable_add-ons
>panopticlick.eff.org

bitchute is supreme overlord in terms of uncucked video sites

bullets typically arent the problem with ddoses but ok

minds are SJW's

they banned hentai translation groups after a few women complained

see

post links or gtfo

i had a suspicion about them. I avoided shitposting, using the words faggot and nigger, because I was worried they were tumbler-lite.

>mastodon
>not gnu/social
Just fuck off, commie.
>gab.ai
Come, you could do better.

>GNU social
it's important for a social ware to have actual users

>proposing to proprietary gab.ai as twitter alternative
>there are free GNU Social and Mastodon
Why? Because muh white pride?

>What's an instant messaging application that actually encrypts everything end-to-end, stores nothing?
The ONLY true answer right now is Tox.
Distributed, P2P, NO servers, encrypted end-to-end, your identity is a file, works over Tor too.
Ring is trying but it's somehow more fucked up than the chanware.
Install qTox.
tox.chat

These moronic "alt"fucks wouldn't have to grapple with corporations all the time if they'd use FLOSS. It consistently blows my mind how technologically illiterate Sup Forums is, and I say this as someone trying to help.
GNU/Social is a decentralized microblogging service (Twitter-type functionality). A good server is shitposter.club. The admin's name is Moonman, so, there you go.
Mastadon is a normalfag-friendly frontend reimplimentation with literal trigger warnings and the lead developer is a lolcow who unironically defederates with GS instances for things like "oppressive shitposting." If you want to run a (((friendly))) interface you can use Masto but you'll have to restart it every hour because Ruby on Rails, guize.

Remember: Without the threat to fork, you have no leverage. Only software and services with user rights baked in architecturally can be a solution to monopoly.

Wait, could you postin NSFW images on minds?

Mastodon is twitter without (((nazis))).
You have better options on: social.guhnoo.org

you just suggested gnu social
op maybe didn't know at the time
now he knows about your precious social network
stop being a self righteous faggot
start a thread about your fucking gnu social instead

>tox

I remember the drama here when Sup Forums was making it. I thought it was pretty much considered compromised at launch.

You don't have to keep posting about gnu social, btw. We can all read your posts. Thanks spamming your server. Maybe you will get one user out of it.

There are big Mastodon servers in Japan.
friends.nico/ - hosted by NicoNicoDouga
pawoo.net - hosted by Pixiv

Are the scary chan posts bulli u? ;~;
If you use masto suck a nigger's greasehole, felchprince, because you've been duped. it's memeware decried by memers. enjoy your sub-hour uptime. lurkmoar and welcome new information

>considered compromised at launch
If your panel of security experts was the prepubescents who obsessively spam all the threads with their complete lack of understanding of basic networking, sure
I'm replying for the benefit of any newfriend lurkers, by the way, because I'm guessing you're a lost cause due to the
>s-s-stop poasting gnu i-i hate u >:(
>everyone i dont like is the same person :D
syndrome you're exhibiting

Yeah, I follow a couple of users from those. They actually got cut off by the other masto instances for morally contemptible drawings. #punchjaps

Gab.ai is proprietary software and Mastodon is SJWs, Sup Forums.
>mashable.com/2017/04/04/mastodon-twitter-social-network/#dDV9B0KfWiqs

Yeah, a lot of pixiv users trying to promote pawoo as twitter alternative.
It's a federated network, stupid. If you don't like rules of one server you could use another or even your own. It could be SJW, anarchic or whatever you want.

...

And Will be you alone in your server without contact with other nodes. Maybe your node will become bigger but will never have contact with the main node.
hackernoon.com/mastodon-is-dead-in-the-water-888c10e8abb1

>It's a federated network, stupid. If you don't like rules of one server you could use another or even your own. It could be SJW, anarchic or whatever you want.
Except Mastodon instances are largely inhabited and developed by people who break that guarantee (which they still lie about on the front page of every instance) by willingly issuing instance-level blocks against any other instances (typically GS ones) that don't whip out the rug and praise intl. afro-jewry on the hour.
GS has also been around for a long time with its own metaculture, and Gargles, disliking that culture, consistently tells the soymale technoprole media that he invented the "Mastodon Network," a "decentralized alternative to Twitter".

For this reason, along with its various technical inadequacies, Mastodon use is generally discouraged by users of Gnu/Social.

It's notable that this was never, ever a problem before Mastodon -- there are communist, socialist, anarchist, and authoritarian GS instances of all flavors that never resorted to instance blocking in all of their long history.

There is Urbit to compete with Facebook, Twitter, PhpBB, MySQL, OAuth, Haskell, C, the JVM, Unix and TCP.

media.urbit.org/whitepaper.pdf

I'm just going to say I made a gnu social account somewhere so this faggot is happy. This is a gnu social thread now guys. Also you are only allowed to use foss on gentoo. Everything else is for SJWs.

Welp. Looks like I've got a lot of following to do.

>pdf

hell no
text dump please

What's your @?

Urbit is a whole 'nother story. I remember reading through the whitepaper after stumbling upon it and getting a distinct, unmistakable whiff of... Greco-Roman patriarchy.
What a rabbit hole.
'Til Patchwork, user.

Minds seems like the most complete and plausible alternative desu, but its userbase is small and ideologically homogeneous.

If any alternative is to succeed... We need someone like PewDiePie.

>(superior list)
Please stop. That list is written from a very shallow perspective. It says not to dismiss browsers using unfair comparisons after having done that for the whole list. It lists projects without saying anything about the purpose of the project, just the implicating that it isn't something the author is interested. And has just wrong info in it, ranger uses w3mimage to display pictures in the terminal, not the other way around.
And the noisy design to presumably make it seem like there is more going on hundreds readability, especially the ridiculous yellow highlights. The C in Cliqz hasn't even rendered properly.

You would have been better of copying some fsf interjection then following up with a plain list to those projects without any vapid commentary.

>Publish videos that only your paying subscribers can access.
:^)

>'Til Patchwork, user.
Indeed.

tptacek on said tox was compromised. he's an sjw, but he is a legit security expert.

it's federated you tardo

>if your private key stops being private, bad things happen
HOLY SHIT CALL THE MEDIA
Everyone involved in that raid was a fucktarded HN user. Their being "SJWs" does, as a matter of fact, impact the security work, because it means they get off on intellectual masturbation and delight in SHUTting IT DOWN small projects that are legitimately challenging the incumbent botnets, because if these people weren't limpwristed male (soy) antmen , they would be outside crushing birds with their hands for the texture.
Here's the GH link for the uninitiated:
github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/issues/426
Watch for yourself. They flood in, ignore that it's a known issue, ignore iphy's posts, and scream and whine until they badger their way to getting a DANGER DANGER STAY AWAY banner plastered on the README, because that's all they wanted in the first place. They made up a target and needed to score some points. High-fives all around, see you tomorrow.

Completely ignoring the hilariously incorrect assertion that this is a critical issue in the first place, their behavior reveals everything you need to know. It's suspicious as fuck how much crapflooding and raiding this project is subject to.

Stick around and watch for yourself. I'm not one to call shill lightly, but...

>using github
you did this to you

Discord: IRC + Mumble
Social Media: Don't use it
Sup Forums: Host your own LynxChan instance
Torrent client: XDCC, or if you must, use Deluge or qBit
OS: Devuan Stable

All I need

There's no such thing as altTech. The reason why all of these platforms even work is because they're funded by retards who think one of them will be profitable but in reality are just wasting money on a bunch of beta cucks who couldn't make actual profit to save their lives.

In other words they're false products, they're things that shouldn't exist and "alt" versions of them will never take off without the same sort of investment and money wasting by third parties to support them. It's time to simply kill social media and make sure the goons in charge can't find work anywhere.

>host your own Sup Forums

people have been doing this for years, and they usually end up dead or used for one degenerate fetish only with a small group of users.

It's a shame these threads can only happen when / can only be talked about in the context of "how can we talk about our Sup Forums shit online????"

I wonder if there is a non-embarrassing use case for some of these "alt" services.

>end up dead
They aren't supposed to be big, user

The debate between zx2c4, lvh and iphydf was civil enough and informative for whoever reads it, and to put a warning in the README was an adequate resolution on the maintainers' part. irungentoo didn't get what the problem was (more proof that iphydf >>> irungentoo), just like you don't seem to. There is a difference between
>if your private key is stolen, someone can impersonate you
and
>if your private key is stolen, someone can impersonate you and impersonate anyone you've talked to to you
The user only expects the former to happen when his key gets stolen, not the latter. It isn't the end of the world, but Tox's design violates the user's expectations and puts him at unnecessary risk of being fished.

Just because the cryptographers work for the pro-SJW establishment (I don't know if they personally are SJWs) and the Tox developers don't does not make the cryptographers wrong about protocol design. Tox really should have used CurveCP. Social justice has not yet corrupted the math part of the cryptographers' brains. You don't have to defend a protocol that isn't as good as it should be to say it was arrogant and stupid of them to demand that Tox shut down.

...

gab.ai/bigabur

Matrix is a surprisingly usable Discord replacement. The interface is even similar.

>Torrent client: XDCC
You what? Enjoy your easy takedowns of centralized servers by the way.

>The user only expects the former to happen when his key gets stolen, not the latter.
This isn't my experience at all.
If your private key is stolen, you are fucked. All bets are off. You don't keep using it. I've never encountered anyone who knew what a private key was that thought otherwise.
>Tox really should have used CurveCP
Can you elaborate on that? Looks like it's a replacement at the TCP layer.
Tox uses libsodium right now, which is a reputable general-purpose crypto lib that was recently audited.

why dont you like gab.ai Sup Forums?
>proprietary
is that the only reason?

I made a feature-poor user discord clone (no phoneposting atm).

url is hashtags.chat and you can append any topic to it (hashtags.chat/tech, hashtags.chat/bitcoin and so forth)