Usenet

Hey Sup Forums what are some *not* dead usenet newsgroups?
Do you even Usenet?

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alt.binaries is the only not dead newsgroup. Combined with a decent indexer, it's pretty based.

No I meant for text discussion, am currently reading alt.os.development and its aight

>No I meant for text discussion
go to bed, grandpa

How do you even access alt.binaries for free and without an account? (for viewing only)

Are you using ethernal september? the alt.crypto, the AI and C groups I think have some interesting discussions.

>ethernal september
>th
explain further

I'm actually just a usenet newfag, wanted to get in contact with a dude who wrote a book about implementing a USB driver and thought "well lets check this out since am already here". I know its been dead like forever, but never imagined it was THIS dead tho.

You generally don't. Some ISPs might provide access, but that's rare as fuck these days and retention has always been shit with them. Frugalnet is one of the cheapest for the retention. A block account is nice if you don't download much, or download very infrequently, and they generally have higher retention.

Usenet has withstood the test of time because it's supported by paying account holders.

Usenet is for 0-Day porn and nothing else these days.

is zeronet and i2p the only modern updated protocols that dont run on java/js with a foss license?

I have been on the Internet since the 1980s.

If you want a sign that the Internet has actually been getting worse in many ways, the collapse of Usenet is one example.

In a few years we will all have iPhones that only connect via the now merged Verizon/AT&T that can only connect to Facebook and Amazon. Amazon will have swallowed up Yelp and many other companies, as will had Facebook.

is there any hope for p2p alternatives to the client-server model, e.g. freenet? do you think "problematic" websites like imageboards might get dropped someday much as usenet has been dropped by ISPs?

Usenet was dropped because it's expensive to run. Back in the day every ISP hosted Usenet servers on premises. It was an ISP-2-ISP CDN with discussion boards. Now we have stuff like web discussion boards, Tor, and Bittorrent that do basically the same job but with much greater utility in their specific domain.

Internet "culture" may have gotten dumber because everyone is on it. Saying the Internet is worse on balance since the late 80s/early 90s is fucking nostalgia goggled into another dimension.

>do you think "problematic" websites like imageboards might get dropped someday much as usenet has been dropped by ISPs?
yes.

>i2p
>does not run on java java
lol

Usenet was "dropped" when new york attorney general Cuomo began publicly grandstanding that Usenet was a porn distributor, and the major providers dropped access to it.

Of course there is the side story that only the alt.binaries* groups had porn in them (and not the other alts, or comp, misc, news, sci, soc, talk, rec), so why would Verizon, Time Warner and Sprint shut down access to all the Big 8, instead of just alt.binaries*? It wouldn't be because they were working with Cuomo, and they wanted to eliminate Usenet as competition to the Web, because Usenet couldn't be monetized with pop-up ads, and telemetry, and analytics, and scripts .... etc ...

hmmm?

lmao

usenet died because of shitty user experience

t. Sanford Wallace

The experience for Usenet was never worse than http. Even today it's not particularly hard compared to the navigational nightmare that is the modern web.

I browse alt.slack almost daily.

There are two (2) projects that are not only functional but implement i2p in C++. Furthermore, you don't need to run proprietary software to use Java, anymore. There's icedtea.

There are a lot of modern p2p protocols that use a free license. See Gnunet.

Yes. Now stop asking questions to answers you already know the answer for and fuck off.

That's what I personally use.

No, I stopped downloading child porn.

What are some decent indexers?

Oh hey, this is still here.
Comp.lang.forth and comp.misc seem alive and well.