Ahahahahahahahaha AMD fans BTFO

ahahahahahahahaha AMD fans BTFO

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This is beyond pathetic.

uh oh poor budget build johnny is upset he has a crap amd card in his pc =(((((((((((

>MSRP is 499$
>Miners and early adopters finish the small stock in half a second
>Prices skyrocket just like every other card
>IT'S AYYMD AND RADEON FAULT, GUYS!

Hmm who do people trust a PROFESSIONAL REVIEWER like jayz2cents or some random greentexting Sup Forums Sup Forums autist?

I think it's more about the MSRP being raised by $100 a bit after release

>evga paid shill says shit

This faggot is a Nvidia paid shill

Except its not raised. People are fucking retarded. They expect to buy Vega for 500$ when even RX580 is sold for the same price.

>more drama
>more clicks
>more $

>jayz2porncastingstudioset
>hobbyists on a dedicated forum
I know who I should trust

cointelegraph.com/news/amd-launches-software-driver-for-cryptocurrency-mining
Well they sure don't seem to mind their new customers.

It's funny though, lots of gamers bought Ryzen just because they thought they were supporting the "good" company.
AMD doesn't give a shit about them, as long as they make money.

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>paid faggot vs fat gentooman
MORE VIEWS PLEASE. I HAVE TO PAY MY BILLS

Fuck off jake.

Jay is one of the first few guys to call bullshit on Rypoo and now he's doing the same on Vega.

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FYI: AMD fans are also shitting on the RTG team

>voice popular opinion
>get views and money
>voice unpopular opinion
>get views and money
>repeat forever

PLS DELET. I HAVE TO PAY MY BILLS

Those are not AMD fans but mostly shitposters and idiots guided by them. I bet 90% of them dont run anything AMD or never planned to buy Vega.

That's not his issue.

Apparently the $499 MSRP for the Vega was actually bullshit. It included a rebate which is already running out, which means the effective MSRP is $599.

Reviewers weren't told about the rebate when they were given the cards to review, just that it had a $499 MSRP, so when they reviewed the cards they gave impressions based on it being sold at $499 not knowing that shortly after release the cards would be $100 more expensive as the rebate window closed.

The 580 is inflated due to mining. What I'm talking about is the actual theoretical price changing, not stores selling it for higher from supply and demand.

Here's what mr. Totally not an NVidia shill had to say about 3.5 youtube.com/watch?v=v6k55epUBCE

Wow it's almost like he's an apologetic shill over shit that's 10 times worse than high demand shit being sold over the MSRP

This is also the retard that couldn't even build a functioning watercooling build for his Ryzen 1800X.

Kill yourself, BR glueeater. The idiot didn't "call bullshit" on Ryzen, he just completely failed to make a build that actually works. youtube.com/watch?v=o6UAjQmg9Ho

>someone mentions Intel's bullshit because jay2shills is talking about dropping Ryzen
>Intel's not much better

Yea, they just engaged in anti-competitive behavior to try and destroy their competitor and ruin the industry for everyone but its basically nothing compared to RTG's dishonest pricing on one product that may actually be the fault of partners. Yea, trying to monopolize the industry isn't so bad in comparison, oh but I'm getting heat from fans so I'll just say it's not MUCH better.

This guy is a fucking scumbag

>you must eat unconditially eat any shit amd releases or you're not "true" fan
kys drone

The MSRP was always $599. They gave out a 1 week deal for -$100 off to make it look like it was $499. Yes the inflation was the fault of miners but AMD purposely made a shitty move to appear cheaper for the hype and early period when its hard as fuck to even find one of these cards that was not part of a fucked up bundle with shit you dont need.

The rebates were to encourage retailers not to jack up the price beyond MSRP, which they immediately did as soon as they ended. They can't stop anyone from setting MSRPs into the fucking sky to get more sales off a high demand GPU.

The entire "moral outrage" over this is one of the most pathetic examples of nerd flailing I've ever seen.

AMD had two options.
1. No packs, no rebates and miners buy out everything
2. Packs and rebates, and miners only buy most of everything

This is the reality of the post-miner GPU market, where everyone wants to get their hands on this shit. Demand is up and supply isn't changing.

>hype the living shit out of what turns out to be a mediocre product
>basically lie about the real MSRP behind a secret launch rebate and stupid fucking bundles
>ship incredibly few cards

This is quite the fuckup and it's hilarious. I still want a 580 for muh Linux gaymen, though. Never thought I'd say that

Literally who?

At $499 miner would buy everything

At $599 miner still buy everything


supply and demand 101

>ITT fa/g/gots forget that AMD and the Radeon Technology Group are still seperate entities
>ITT people forget that Ryzen and Polaris based GPUs are still competitively priced in some countries with the meme nvidia 1050s and 1060s, which is the mid-range market they're aimed for
>ITT people forget miners are still retards for thinking they'll break even

When will Sup Forumsidiots and cryptoniggers stop blaming eachother and realise they're both pissing money down the drain.

R3 1200 / 1300X, RX 470/570. Those are your basic bitch tools that'll outperform or stick with a 1060 in REAL WORLD performance for less. I'm not talking those shitty benchmarks you pissants like to parade around, who the fuck notices 2 extra frames over your vsync limit?

I'm glad I bought a 1070 last year.

who ever buys reference cards anyway??

you should have bought XFX 4something

More like if you dont like the product you dont buy it instead of
>FIRE RAJA AAAAAAAAAA MY GAYMES AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!11111

AMD needs to sue the shit out of the fucking liar Gibbo using the UK's strong libel laws, and totally cut off his store from AMD products. That known liar is trying to take advantage of the swirling rumors to try and strong arm AMD into continuing to bribe e-tailers into selling at MSRP.

AMD then needs to cut off this rumor mongering YouTube moron from getting sampled ever again until he issue a public retraction and apology.

AMD needs to stop tolerating this kind of treatment because it just encourages others in the industry to take liberties.

Yeah yeah. Prove it. So far no one could. Only speculation and rumors.

and you should just drink bleach

very mature comment applause

mature comment for mature amdrone

imagine missing the point as badly as this fag

Go find another e-tailer who is willing to confirm Gibbo's lies on the record. I'll wait.

>Nvidia tells reviewers GTX 1070 MSRP is $379
>No cards available at launch
>3 months before you can one for less than $400
>Nobody blames Nvidia

>AMD says MSRP is $499
>Actually has some available on launch day
>Cards sold out
>OMG IT'S AMD's FAULT!!!111

>strong arm AMD into continuing to bribe e-tailers into selling at MSRP
So you're saying that amd must pay retalers to sell at MSRP otherwise they'd suffer losses. Thanks for confirming what gibbo said, retard.
also
>devending the reputaion of a corporation on mogolian smoke signal board
looks like a shill

>>Nvidia tells reviewers GTX 1070 MSRP is $379
Kek. Nevar forget.

>So you're saying that amd must pay retalers to sell at MSRP otherwise they'd suffer losses. Thanks for confirming what gibbo said, retard.
Yes, because having to bribe retailers not to profiteer by raising prices over MSRP like they do on all other highly in demand graphics cards means they would be taking a loss if they sold at MSRP.

Absolutely impeccable logic. Now go find another etailer to confirm Gibbo's lies on the record. I'm still waiting.

First reviews are using FE cards which are more expensive but can be bought directly from nvidia.
You can't buy directly from amd.
Nice try amdrone.

>effective msrp
Lol. What is the actual msrp?

You fail economics.

Every card sold at MSRP is a loss when you could be selling the card for above MSRP.
AMD compensated retailers for that loss so some cards would actually be available at MSRP on launch day.

AMD+NVIDIA master race

Whst was Rajas biggest success since his return to AMD?

reminder that nvidia wants on the mining bandwagon as well.

Why not increase the supply?

Reviewers reviewd $450 FE cards but judged them by the $370 MSRP that wasn't going to be available for months.

Meanwhile AMD Vega actually had cards selling for MSRP on launch day.

try sorting by price and scroll to the beginning ?
they start at 500€ in austria so they should be even cheaper in germany

He didn't design Vega. his first amd gpu will be Navi.

>Every card sold at MSRP is a loss when you could be selling the card for above MSRP.
Retailers recieve cards from manufacturer below MSRP, retard. AMD decided to be a jew and set the MSRP to what comes from the manufacturer and give away limited rebates so the retailer get some profit while decieveing the press.

Because you can't just magic new production lines into existence. They take huge investment and take time before becoming operational.

Lol... and he had nothing to do with Fiji too, right?

Now try answering the question.

What was Rajas biggest success since his return to AMD?

Polaris is arguably a huge success, since it is selling faster than supply can come in.

no they didn't. AMD has absolutely no way of influencing retail pricing. Even if they gave Vega cards away for free to retailers, they would be selling for the same price they are now.

You mean HBM is a meme with supply constraints?

>RX570 - MSRP 180$ - sold for 450$
>Vega RX 56 - MSRP 399$
>Vega RX 64 - MSRP 500$
Gee i wonder why retailers ask more for Vega!

Those are prices like 3 months after launch. Way before crypto mining boom started.

Vega. The whole architecture is designed to solve all GCN's historical weaknesses. The pro drivers prove that Raja largely succeeded, its just unfortunately that the gaming drivers are literally half fucking finished and have core uarch features that aren't implemented yet.

Fantastic, no wonder no one is adopting OpenGPU and ROCm. They are all going in to mining rigs.

That is a success to you?

This is what happens when you pull a bait and switch and don't control the distribution of a flagship product. This is the major reason why Nvidia produced huge stocks of the GTX 10 series and made them available at MSRP at launch. It was the wrangle in and put a noose around the necks of any retailer who dared charge above MSRP... you were competing directly against Nvidia on their website @MSRP.

Radeon group is not AMD imo. They fucked the launch and a huge aspect of the consumer base. They took it a step further and, instead of using resources to fix the incomplete drivers, used them to write custom ROMs for miners. The only two major uses of GPUs is for general purpose compute and gaming. Even though a sick demented fuck has found a way to siphon compute resource valuation/inflation into a fake ponzi scheme currency, Miners aren't a major use. When coin systems collapse, it is going to be a 2008 event for the companies who were dumb enough to align and support them.

People bought GTX 10 series cards without a blink of an eye.
Better drivers. Mature product. Better general purpose compute dev tools. Better performance. Less power. Less Heat.

twitter.com/nvidiageforce/status/895746289589039104?lang=en


The most appauling thing is that there still hasn't been a proper response from the Radeon group. R.I.P in my opinion. You gotta be real desperate, myopic, and stupid to stake the future of your business unit on a ponzi scheme while simultaneous marginalizing a loyal segment of your consumer base and while ignoring the general purpose compute community (the future of computing)

Kudos to reviewers calling Radeon out on their shit.
In reality, these guys aren't getting rich from product samples. They get rich by their views. It was only a matter of time before they wised up to this and stopped shilling.

How is Vega a success by any measure? It is a power hog of an archirecture, that has one or two use cases that justify it's power.

Navi won't solve any of these issues either.

>GTX 10 series
>available at MSRP at launch
GTX 1080 MSRP is $599
Nvidia sold it at launch for $699
GTX 1070 MSRP is $379
Nvidia sold it at launch for $449

Retarded frogposter

>This is the major reason why Nvidia produced huge stocks of the GTX 10 series and made them available at MSRP at launch
Confirmed for not following GTX 1070/1080 release. It was literally a paper launch. Even after months you couldnt buy them near close to MSRP because they were always out of stock. Look at for example.

lol.


markets.businessinsider.com/currencies/news/amd-stock-price-cryptocurrency-mining-wont-be-a-long-term-growth-driver-2017-7-1002206475

marketwatch.com/story/nvidia-more-bullish-on-cryptocurrency-than-amd-2017-08-10

news.bitcoin.com/russia-discusses-starting-cryptocurrency-mining-with-its-20-gigawatt-surplus/

? He said it in an interview that Vega was already in development and it's not his design.

its a power hog becase its a lot easier to just increase the power and deal with the heat than it is to make a good gpu architecture.

are you confusing the founders edition with the others ?

>they are making money

sounds like success to me.

Fucking beautiful.

Founders Edition was literally a scam to sell reference coolers above MSRP.
But it's OK when Nvidia does it.

Go read the whitepaper you absolute know nothing. There are core new uarch features that aren't even implemented in the gaming drivers yet, but they ARE implemented in the pro drivers, where Vega10 trades blows with full GP102.

Until RTG manages to get primitive shaders working in the gaming drivers, Vega will remain totally front end bottlenecked by only having a front end throughput of 4 triangles per clock prior to fixed function culling (i.e. primitive discard carried over from Polaris). In the pro drivers, where this already works, Vega is a beast at geometry bound workloads.

Which interview? He is already a confirmed liar as well.

Power usage is not a concern for professional usage. Which is where Vega is good.

Let's make sure all our eggs are in one basket...

>People bought GTX 10 series cards without a blink of an eye.
>Better drivers. Mature product.
LOL.

Why would they release a piece of shit architecture with piece of shit drivers? Oh wait, it's Raja... what else is he going to do?

>Trying to judge perf/watt while Vega is still completely front end bottlenecked on half-finished gaming drivers.
In pro workloads it delivers full GP102 performance at its current TDP rating.

>He is already a confirmed liar
Confirmed by you?

> Professional Reviewer
>He thinks he has a Profession
Top Kek

The architecture is fucking brilliant, actually, but RTG didn't have enough resources to hire enough driver monkeys to rewrite both their workstation and gaming driver stacks from the ground up fast enough. They prioritized the pro drivers, which are at least feature complete, but the gaming drivers are still pretty rough.

AMD Shills=Obliterated

Incorrect idiot :
The GTX 1080 Founders Edition card, for its part, fits in to this picture at $699, a $100 premium. The story then is much the same for the GTX 1070. Its family MSRP is $379, which its Founders Edition counterpart is being sold for $449.

Also, Nvidia offered them on their website @detailed pricing to ensure retailers didn't pull the shit they just did. As such, prices stayed consistent for some time after launch. I have the receipts from 2016. I know exactly what happened. I held out for vega, they fucked up the launch, and I bought more GTX 10 series cards.

It's AMD's flagship feature called FineWine™

this.

see

This is not a FineWine situation. We are not talking about mere driver optimizations. Core uarch features discussed in whitepaper aren't implemented yet in the gaming drivers. We already know these features are implemented in the pro drivers and are in beta testing gaming drivers, so we know they actually exist and are coming.

Regardless of that the real feature of Vega is the HBCC and the terabyte memory which nvidia won't have in ten years.

>have 10x less money than your competition
>release new architecture with rushed drivers because you have to
Yeah. Fuk em WTF! :D

i guess once vega gets out of stock and nvidia cards starts climbing up again because miners will buy them he will no longer support nvidia also right?

SOPA

I have the receipts from 2016 and just bought more. Have no clue what you're yapping about.

Miners want headless cards so you snip the video out ports, cut the price in-line with that, and force them into such cards by locking down the video cards w/ secure boot and sign checking preventing mining ROms from being loaded. You then release Mining support for the cut cards. Nvidiia started down this path. Radeon allowed it to fuck their flagship and integrated it all into one.

> mfw you see nothing but blower FE cards in serious general purpose compute setups..
> mfw gaymer claims

The ship has sailed. They had their timeline and release dates and fuckin blew it. AMD is fine on the CPU side and will likely make good use of vega on the APU side and through sales to Apple/etc.

Major things are on the horizon and it will be a marriage of Nvida GPU/AMD CPU.
Even shintel has its role