Want help?: >Assemble part list pcpartpicker.com >State the budget for your build (and country) >List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor res + refresh rate >State your goal for build improvements: lower price? improved specs? How to assemble a PC, select components & more (outdated) wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC
CPUs: No i5's unless cheap. Consider waiting for Coffee Lake (1 month). 8700K is certain to be the fastest gaming CPU, will be competitive in productivity tasks vs 8-core Ryzen. >G4560 - poverty builds >R3 1200 - Budget builds (R3 1300x - Good bridge between the 1500x and 1200, only get a 1400 if you really need multithreading >R5 1500x - Good but up to 1600 if you can >R5 1600 - Best value for gaming / mixed usage; 1600x if you want higher stock clocks >R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use; Not for just gaming
GPUs: Coin miners increased prices, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser >Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and light games >GTX 1050(Ti) - Low end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both >RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz >RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games >GTX 1070 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high >GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p >GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games >Vega is shit
RAM: >Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM >Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM
General: LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS Consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor
Thinking of getting an Asus ROG PG348Q. I really want a 1440p monitor of its size. Will I miss the 44 Hz difference though? Should I wait until 34'' 144 Hz comes out?
>>inb4 "you should get Acer Predator X34"
Michael Kelly
Any good 24" FullHD IPS monitor?
Chase Phillips
incase these anons missed their better build options
Julian Lewis
>retoasting my response
>Will I miss the 44 Hz difference though? Honestly probably not. Unless you're super into Counter Strike or something like that it isn't that big a deal. You ask will you 'miss' it? Do you mean you've already got a 144Hz monitor? If so just set a custom resolution of 100Hz and find out.
t. own a 144Hz and 110Hz monitor, don't find there to be much of a difference worth losing sleep over
>a better buy >inb4 a bunch of tests assuming some non-realistic usage scenarios that justifies it performing slower in real world gaming and apps
Jace Cooper
I want to build a gaming PC that can play most games at high-ultra specs. My favorite games are Civilization type games and big open world ones like Skyrim. I want to play the new Star Wars Battlefront 2, the new Total War War-hammer coming out and the 2016 Doom game. I also want it to be able to run smoothly with a lot of Mods.
I also want it to run fast while doing general stuff like surfing the web, photo editing and downloading torrent files while running games at the same time.
I want to have duel screens as well. Maybe not included in the budget if that can make the PC better. If it's possible to have a build that doesn't have to have parts upgraded for a long time that would be nice.
Does any one have any suggestions?
Brayden Jackson
>I also want it to run fast while doing general stuff like surfing the web, photo editing and downloading torrent files while running games at the same time. This isn't really much of a multi-threaded scenario tbqh.
>If it's possible to have a build that doesn't have to have parts upgraded for a long time that would be nice. I'd wait for 8700K in that case.
>Does any one have any suggestions? Need a budget.
Mason Turner
>Intel >able to be upgraded for a long time Bet you a hundred bucks that no CPU that comes out in 2019 will work on a motherboard that's compatible with the 8700k.
Jace Powell
You're dumb if you think the 8700K isn't going to last, it's a Sandy Bridge-tier jump in performance, we're not going to get anything better for a good while.
Someone who is planning to keep their CPU for a 'long time' doesn't care that Intel changes their sockets and chipsets every other week.
Ryder Anderson
Sup Forums , which 1070 should i get for 1080p ultra gayming?
Easton Gomez
>Sandy Bridge-tier jump in performance Not. Even. Fucking. Close. The only real difference is two extra cores on i3/i5/i7.
>Someone who is planning to keep their CPU for a 'long time' doesn't care that Intel changes their sockets and chipsets every other week. He didn't say that he wants to keep his CPU for a long time, he said he wants to be able to upgrade for a long time. Intel does not offer that, AMD does.
And if he DID want to keep the CPU for a long time, 1700 would still be better.
Austin Morgan
get a good power supply.
Leo Nguyen
For me, it's McChicken!
Angel Green
>AMD does >amd hasnt released a cpu series in over 4 years
Jonathan Cook
>Not. Even. Fucking. Close. The only real difference is two extra cores on i3/i5/i7. >50% more cores on i5/i7 isn't a big deal >a 6-core 7700K isn't going to last Ok kiddo.
>He didn't say that he wants to keep his CPU for a long time, he said he wants to be able to upgrade for a long time. Intel does not offer that, AMD does. >If it's possible to have a build that doesn't have to have parts upgraded for a long time that would be nice. Learn to read.
Jose Lopez
Guys, Threadripper or dual Xeon for 3dcg use?
Henry Price
>/pcbg/ tells me case fans don't matter >put GPU under load, set 80% fan speed >set my 5 case fans at 1100RPM >leave for 20 minutes >record max temp of 66C >disable my roof fans, set my two intakes and one exhaust all to 500RPM >leave for 20 minutes >record max temp of 77C Whoa...
Dominic Collins
as in more WATs? how much?
Gabriel Miller
No, as in a better one. Watts isn't everything. Get one from a good brand, and at the very least 80+ bronze certified. You should also consider faster RAM, it helps a lot with Ryzen.
Luke Hughes
did you just wake up from a coma? you know what ryzen is?
William Johnson
I built this bad boy back in 2011 (only changed the GPU) but I fear it might die one day or another, so I was considering getting, or at least taking a look at the possible new mobo, CPU and RAM I could get if that happens. What are some good options with a budget of 500€?
Jackson Sullivan
isn't 2400 the fastest ram? I'll look for a certified 80%+ efficiency one.
Luis Johnson
3200 my boy
Carson Rodriguez
bought a replacement HD for laptop, and its double the height of the old one and only one of the screws connecting the metal case to to the laptop will fit. is ducktaping the other four corners down a bad idea?
Andrew Richardson
>isn't 2400 the fastest ram? For DDR4? 2400 is SLOW.
Thanks, I'll read a bit about all that since I don't know shit about AMD CPUs but that looks promising.
Parker Turner
>parts arriving today
Robert Price
Post pics of the completed build, it's always nice to see.
Joshua Diaz
Will a Ryzen 3 1200 be enough for a 1050ti and playing at 1080p? I want a 1300x but fuckers are impossible to find, the only one available is from a shady seller so I'd rather avoid it.
Juan Nelson
>Will a Ryzen 3 1200 be enough for a 1050ti and playing at 1080p Yep.
Personally would just buy a used 3570K though for 1/3rd the price, desu.
Dylan Thomas
I need some suggestions on what components to buy for an entry level photo/video/music production rig in Lightroom, Premiere and Ableton Live and some moderate gaming.
I'm currently using a Thinkpad X230 as a desktop because the battery is so shitty so I might as well replace it with a desktop. I already have the GPU and PSU because I'm running an eGPU setup on the Thinkpad and I'm going to reuse the SSD I put in it.
I'm on a pretty tight budget though so I'm mainly wondering what CPU and RAM I should get. Right now I'm mostly concered with just getting better performance than what I have on my Thinkpad, so is there any point in getting the 1400 over the 1200 if you're going to overclock anyways? Or should I just get this and upgrade it later?
And what RAM speeds should I be looking at? I want at least 16GB and I'm thinking about just getting 8GB now and 8GB later but I can't find any 1x8GB RAM at 2888 or 3000Mhz speeds. Will I really notice any difference in performance if I get something like 2400Mhz RAM now?
So the primary purpose is a workstation for myself, mainly dealing with DAWS and photo manipulation programs. However im also thinking of having a home server where ill probably be running a vm for other users (2 others, 3 including me) so that they dont have to have a computer there and only a monitor. Is such a think possible? apart from that im thinking of also having a file server run off it for everyone connected to my network. Also if latency isnt an issue ill probably keep it else away from my office and have it run remotely. Apart from that it will always be running an android emulator that any user can bring up (because i need certain things that are only available on android to be accessable to everyone, maybe if possible make it so when someone connects to my net theyre taken to a page hosted locally that allows them to see the android emulator and use it.)
Dylan Fisher
also to add, cooling im thinking either the large noctua one when it comes out or a custom loop. the other thing i was thinking of was getting a h440 case but idk
Samuel Ross
So I've got a Phenom 965 paired with a dying Radeon 6870. I've got an RX 560 (2 GB) arriving tomorrow. Where am I going to be bottlenecked?
Leo Edwards
yes, you can overclock it very easily to get more performance than a 1300x too.
David Morris
>Where am I going to be bottlenecked? Everywhere. Assuming you're gaymen you won't be able to play any CPU intensive games at all.
Any recommendations for ram ? or just buy more of what i already have ?
Eli Kelly
why do you have it?
Brayden Turner
Anyone? Is the 1400 worth getting over the 1200 for productivity use if you're going to overclock anyways? And is 2400Mhz RAM worth getting on Ryzen?
Carson Roberts
its aesthetic, will the stock cooler be enough?
Henry Edwards
Yes it's a good cooler. The days of the past where high performance cpus came with tiny propellers that idle them at 100c are over.
Liam Cox
Ryzen doesn't really run very hot. The stock cooler isn't great, but it's sufficient even if you plan to OC.
Landon Lee
>its aesthetic fair enough then. but yeah the stock is enough unless you want to do a massive oc, and even then you'll be stopped by stability before temperature becomes a big issue.
Joseph Scott
You guys just saved me a couple hundred bucks. I decided to go with the 1500X wraith spire and buy the kraken 2 when the next gen of CPUs come out.
Ian James
>Is the 1400 worth getting over the 1200 for productivity use yes and yes faster ram is better. if you really can't find it (which is hard to believe) 2400 will do, but faster is better with ryzen.
Ian Taylor
I can't find RAM faster than 2400Mhz when buying 1x8GB, only when buying 2x8. I want 16GB RAM but I'm planning on buying 8GB first and add 8 more later to save some cash.
Does the 1600 wraith spire have LED like in this vid or is that only for the 1700 RGB version?
Andrew Gomez
Only the 1700 version.
Dominic Watson
Fuck, that kind of sucks.
Adrian Hughes
4x4
Oliver Carter
Don't do it, buy the 2x8 now. It will be cheaper in the long run and you can guarantee the two will work together with good stability.
Wyatt Edwards
THIS
Owen Barnes
Yeah, I'll probably do that and get the 1200 instead. I don't really see the point in getting the 1400, might as well wait until you can get the 1600 in that case.
Bentley Anderson
Get the 1300X
Easton Ward
no wonder. songle fan cards never last
Kayden Parker
FUCK YOU
Easton White
>It will be cheaper in the long run Eh... RAM prices are pretty high right now. So they'll probably come down sometime soon-ish. Probably.
Doesn't the motherboard you've chosen have 4 RAM slots? 2x4GB and then a second identical set should work fine, assuming 16GB will be enough for the foreseeable future.
Asher Robinson
Man I miss when RAM was dirt cheap, I remember buying 64 fucking GB of RAM in 2011 because 'why not?' it was like a hundred bucks more expensive than getting 16.
Levi Cooper
I think they have come down a little bit already at least I see 3200mhz ripjaws go for a pretty good price
Evan Johnson
>So they'll probably come down sometime soon-ish. Probably. Wouldn't count on it
Jacob Richardson
Oh yeah, that seems like the best choice. Is there any difference between that and the 1200 aside from clock speed and automatic overclocking?
Cooper Ward
what?
its still basically $10/gb where i am. it never was much cheaper. it amazes me that certain things haven't changed at all price wise.
Jose Gutierrez
They're better binned(at least in theory), but all the R3s are pretty much bottom of the barrel anyway.
Julian Stewart
>obvious gaymin rig >consider ryzen
Carter Bennett
I got 2x8 ddr4 3000 for $120 a month ago. How much could RAM possibly drop from there?
It's like driving across town to buy two cents cheaper gas. Don't be penny wise pound foolish.
the X chips will probably have a little more overclocking headroom which is vital when you're already only working with four cores and no extra threading
Jason Anderson
You can't really go wrong with ryzen, you're always going to get value for money, but when that money goes down obviously the performance does as well so you have to carefully consider what your needs are and for how long they will be that way
I'm so ready for the rx480 apocalypse, either because mining melts down or because they swarm vega56 like a pack of rats. Gonna snag 2 to crossfire and replace my 970,
Adrian Jackson
Never do this.
Jack Howard
you live in the middle of fucking nowhere, brah
Jordan Thomas
I'm getting the ASUS B-350 Plus and a Ryzen 1600, will buy a single 8 Gb 3000 G.Skill ram stick.
How fucked could I be?, can't find the stick in the mobos comp list and I'll probably not touch the PC for another 5 years or so.
