There hasn't been a groundbreaking new file format for a very long time. Why has innovation completely stalled...

There hasn't been a groundbreaking new file format for a very long time. Why has innovation completely stalled? Why are we still using file formats invented 20 or 30 years ago?

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idiot

They work

Webp

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Hyperloop?

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There hasn't been a groundbreaking wheel for a very long time. Why has innovation completely stalled? Why are we still using wheels invented 5 or 10 millennia ago?

>groundbreaking new file format
Do you know what file formats are? They're just a way to easily organize and run text files you twat

mkv

jpg should have been replaced a long time ago with jpeg2000 or webp if MS and Google did not fuck it up so bad, maybe Apple will cause heif to be adopted.

mp3 is not used that much outside of piracy, aac is the standard today

gif is slowly dying, it could have been put out of misery by webp

opus is very up-and-coming as well, with its absurd quality/compression ratios

... What?

These.

bpg
flif
Ao1

There is a need for a tiff replacement. It's a glorious format, but that 2GB hard limit sucks. Mkv needs to become a defacto container for video. We need a new codec that supports full chroma 4:4:4 with lossless compression. APNG should have been default foe web stuff by now.

>There hasn't been a groundbreaking railway for a very long time.
57km long tunnel through the Alps was opened last year in Switzerland. That's pretty groundbreaking (even in a literal sense).

opus - 2012
mkv - 2002
flac - 2001

File formats take a fair while to be widely adopted.
What newer formats am I missing?

.dng

FLIF
flif.info/


14% smaller than lossless WebP,
22% smaller than lossless BPG,
33% smaller than brute-force crushed PNG files (using ZopfliPNG),
43% smaller than typical PNG files,
46% smaller than optimized Adam7-interlaced PNG files,
53% smaller than lossless JPEG 2000 compression,
74% smaller than lossless JPEG XR compression.

You don't fix what ain't broke.

What's so great about tiff?

Isn't the compression absolute garbage?
My camera can shoot in tiff but the files are more than 100MB

>tfw no one supports webp
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP

gif dying? they are more popular than ever.

if it aint broke dont fix it. does the job i guess

When it comes to video, it's still the same container just a new codec, and new more efficient encoders for the same codecs.

Opus?
Webm?

gifv is replacing it

GIFV = MPEG-4
It's not a real format, just a different extension for mp4 video

But a lot of them are broke like jpeg

gifv is just a renamed extension of webm, specific to imgur.

Ledditor detected, etc.

Hardly groundbreaking, faggot.

gltf 2.0
godotengine.org/article/we-should-all-use-gltf-20-export-3d-assets-game-engines

Because it's not actually that good.
blog.mozilla.org/research/2013/10/17/studying-lossy-image-compression-efficiency/

If it isn't broken, don't fix it

Reminder that GIF is pronounced JIF
olsenhome.com/gif/
youtube.com/watch?v=MSJaSS_Zj0Y

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Everybody pronounces it "ghif" though.

Nice try, faggot.
dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/gif

>no support for CMYK
Dropped.

Reminder it's pronounced "jraphic"

>giraffe-ic

I hope you also pronounce JPEG as "Jay-feg" for the same reason,
or SCUBA as "Scubba"
or LASER as "Lahser"

Because TIFF files aren't meant for you to snap your instapix with ur friends at Dizneyland theme park chk out our selfies like share n subscribe 4 our millenial adventure!!! *emoji* *emoji* *emoji*

They're meant for you to take the files and run them through postproduction software so you can eventually get the image you want. To do that, they take a fuckton of data off the sensor that JPEG dumps in compression. TIFF doesn't make any assumptions and the file is treated like you're going to want to do something with that excess data, so it holds onto it in the massive TIFF file until you explicitly tell your image editor that you're done editing the image and ready to export them to a different file type.

It's basically a poor man's RAW.

There hasn't been a groundbreaking wheel design for a very long time. Why has innovation completely stalled? Why are we still using wheels invented 1000s of years ago?

steve wilhite is a faggot
case closed

My raw files are about 40MB.
TIFF is about 2.5 times bigger without adding any quality.

I never use it but if for some reason I wanted to include white balance and color profiles (which are ignored in raw) I would get pretty annoyed at the huge file sizes if only because they take a long time to write.

I'm sure there are better alternatives that offer the same features but at less than half the file size.

>There hasn't been a groundbreaking ladder design for a very long time.

They do, that's what RAW is. There's a half billion different RAW interpretations, and at least with Canon, you'll need to download model-specific plugins to your photo editing software so it knows how to read that particular model family's version of RAW. Had to do it with my 80D.

TIFF is more generic and is supported by basically everything, so it has 'fewer' features, (YMMV based on a ton of variables), and isn't as optimized.

Opus is fucking good
But the fucking retarded music community is still clinging to 20 year old formats while the video community is always moving towards the future.

DNG ("digital negative") is a standardized alternative to raw.

And it has very good compression.
I always convert my raw files to DNG on import, just because of that.

Raw and DNG aren't suitable for editing, so I recognize the need for other formats as well.
But I think native photoshop or gimp files are better than tiff, unless I'm missing something here?

Are they? I figured that it has more to do with cars only supporting shitty formats.

Opus is pretty good, but it still suffers from mp3's network effects. If you're selling lossy music files, you're gonna sell mp3 because too many people won't have Opus compatible players. If you're selling to people who actually care about quality, you'll sell lossless and let them transcode to whatever.

In areas where compatibility isn't a problem (e.g. voip) Opus is actually being adopted pretty well.

Because the things that are exciting are completely unsupported.

there is a new static image and moving image format that kicks the shit out of everything currently, but not a single program uses it in favor of jpeg, png, or gif, even though if the files are converted to said format losslessly it would still come out to a smaller file size that works better.

>still using a successive series of rungs
Iterative garbage. When will the ladder industry get its own Apple to shake things up, innovate and inspire future generations to design ladders instead of just simply making the same, boring old ladders?

>gif is slowly dying, it could have been put out of misery by webp

Does webp support animation? apng or mng should have replaced gif's ages ago.

webp does support animation

Reminder that GIF is pronounced gee-eye-eff.