Killling net neutrality will be fine guys we swear it will be ok and not a problem at all

>killling net neutrality will be fine guys we swear it will be ok and not a problem at all
hope none of you are through verizon they just took a step towards shit tier

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do you shills realize Sup Forums has been against this shit long before you niggers started squatting here?

we will never be consensus cracked. just shut us down already.

I mean thats shitty but 4k phone screens are a fuckin' meme. You're not even going to appreciate the difference between 720p and 1080p unless you've attached your phone to your face

stfu my 4k phone is a lot better than my old S8 1440p screen fuck off

you would still be better off with tmobile cause im sure this is just the tip of the ice burg ans they have much worse ideas coming

developer.android.com/about/versions/marshmallow/android-6.0.html#4K-display
>While in 4K display mode, the UI continues to be rendered at the original resolution (such as 1080p) and is upscaled to 4K

Speaking of which, how is net neutrality doing? Did the Battle for the Net on July 12th actually do anything? Their website hasn't been updated since.

net neutrality doesnt affect this

How so?

net nuetrality doesn't care if you throttle all video, it cares if you specifically throttle video from one source.

T-Mobile has horrible congestion problems. I can have full bars and lte and it feels like I am on dial up!

You know tmobile has been doing exactly the same thing for years right?

Use vpn

This guy gets it.
It is for your own good. A normal 1080p video would eat up all your data in minutes

I'm fine. It's just your area. Also, does net neutrality regulations even cover mobile data providers?

T-mobile gives you the ability to opt in to having all videos capped at 480p in exchange for videos and music streaming not taking any of your data. you can turn it off.

How are they planing to do that exactly? Most connections are encrypted.

>He doesn't know that if ALL video is throttled, net neutrality doesn't give a fuck

Why is this allowed
A supposed first world country where the citizens can't even stream at 1080p

I can do that in India where people shit in the street

>in exchange for videos and music streaming
The music streaming thing is separate from binge-on and is not able to be opted out of. It just treats a select few music services as data-limit-free and doesn't modify them.

They can't limit you though.

>hurr, let's kill off our good plans and Jew our customers, then cry when they switch and beg for government handouts when we go bankrupt!
Crony capitalism is a fucking cancer. Poor Adam Smith is rolling in his grave.

Exactly

But guys, it's okay! The FREE MARKET made this value deal and this is the best deal, otherviste the FREE MARKET would make a better one!

>Free market
>In crony capitalism
More like corporate communism.

Can't wait until you Americans lose net neutrality. Hopefully it will allow for more tech companies to innovate outside the US.

Internet providers need to be reigned in, as do cell providers. The problem is that congress is all too happy to be bribed, and these corporations can hire thousands of lobbyists to shill for them. Far too much money in politics, and policy won't change in favor of the people until that ends.

*sigh*

Time to start data hoarding.

But the free market told me that infrastructure investment is down due to Obama's NN rules !

Literal proof that trump is retarded and America is fucked.
Welcome to corporatism, a masked totalitarianism with an illusion of liberty. It's basically right wing communism.

>phoneposters BTFO
How is this a problem? People need to learn that they cannot rely on their portable botnet machines as a lifeline.

the UI is only the userinterface you dumbfuck

What's exactly stopping ISPs throttling and blocking them? Websites like Netflix and Crunchyroll already do that (sadly)

Good. Then we can go back to reading text like white men.

>How are they planing to do that exactly? Most connections are encrypted.
Not for long. Phase Two will begin soon. You'll see.

>Implying free market is something that produces benefits for the end consumer as a general rule even in pure capitalism.

and how do they know it is a videostream without package-inspection or source-discrimination?

Use a VPN. Many people are already forced to, for various reasons. And it will only get worse.

>Phase Two will begin soon.
Being what? Blocking TLS connections? By now, that'd be the same as blocking half the web.

Why is this a problem again? I thought 720p is objectively better than 480p?

they ban ip ranges of vpn providers. if you run your own vpn on a vps you should be fine

ISP with mandatory root certs would be the shit

So dont use Verizon then?

Good time being yuropoor ;^)
paying 20 euro shekels for 1Gbps without censorship or any limits.

Wouldn't a server be throttled as well?
Also, why wouldn't a normal VPN be throttled too regardless? In the end only IP ranges that will pay extra $$$ to the ISP won't get throttled

Old news. T-Mobile has been doing this for over a year.

And that's why VPNs exist you fuck.

when will you realize that literally all the (((news))) sources are sucking up to net neutrality as if its suddenly a thing?
Even if you dont consider Sup Forums's reasoning, since when has literally ALL the websites ever saying the same thing lead to a good outcome?

Reading news like that from the US makes me kind of glad we have the EU here to protect our rights. It's a shame all their other policies aside from consumer protection are absolute trash

Sup Forums was never against net neutrality you /r/the_donald faggot

>hey guise all these mainstream websites say eating shit is bad for yo
>i guess that means eating shit is good for you now, fucking libruls
This is your logic

>it's a "Sup Forums defends their freedom to get nickel and dimed by kikes" episode
You can't make this stuff up

>smartphone videos

and nothing of value was lost

>upscaled to 4K

Yeah, it's not like we should get to choose what we want to use our paid service for. Not like practically everything has cell/wifi auto toggles to avoid it anyway.

Verizon wouldn't fuck us.

>Improving network reliability and reducing cost by not allowing dumb phoneposters to waste bandwidth on 1440p and 4k videos for their 5 inch screen
This is unironically a good thing. It means you can get an unlimited plan without having to pay the amount required to cover people blowing through 2TB of data a month on 4k netflix.

MITM proxy is the easiest targeted thing to do. They could also throttle your network speeds wholesale to force you to low bitrates.

Too bad you have bad peering and you're talking about a wired connection not a mobile connection.

bandwidth is not an exhaustible resource, at least not in the sense that we need to change how we charge everyone to deal with a small minority's overuse. someone blowing through 2TB of data a month is a manufactured problem in this case.

Reminder that killing net neutrality is a good thing because it will prevent people who are too poor to afford access to anything except Facebook and people are too stupid to figure out how to get around the blocks from shitting up the internet.

you can run a vpn through your own router m8

This. NN shills confirmed retards.

It does when actual competition happens. We're living under oligopoly tactics though.

The real joke here is that americans still use capped data plans.

>It does when actual regulated competition happens.
truly free market systems fuck consumers over just as much

>would eat up all your data
>in an unlimited data plan
Found the telco shill

Should've just dropped it. They're obviously just a normie who read a few articles.

Free the market, verizon does this because there is no competition. You can't solve government enforced regulation with more regulation

It costs Verizon mere pennies to move a terabyte.

You actually kinda have a point. It would be like when the internet took half a brain to gain access to.

>5¢ have been deposited into your account

Bandwidth is an exhaustible resource. It's easy to look at a 10GbE port and think 50Mbit/s is nothing even when it's going on 24/7.
But what if that 10GbE port is shared between 5 million people? It's the same deal with mobile base stations on a smaller scale.

It's only exhaustive at a given moment then. So in the long run it doesn't matter

It's mobile data so it's not affected by NN anyway. Only broadband is under NN

Are you retarded? I don't like their practices much but mobile data providers are the only providers in the world who actually compete because they aren't restricted by fucking wires in the ground

How exactly does network congestion not matter to an ISP?

Good. Phonecucks btfo

But it is limited at any given moment. At peak hours like lunch time 1 person watching 4k netflix is hogging the bandwidth that 1000 people could use to check the news. By throttling the dumbass to 1080p instead you increase the quality of service to those people.

>wired connection
4G wireless router with unlimited bandwidth and 100MiB/s / 50MiB/s costs around 25€
Unlimited mobile bandwidth (just the SIM card) costs a bit less and you also get unlimited calls/texts

Wrong.

Also the difference between a 4k 60fps video and a 720p one on my phones 4k screen is insane. I think lots of people must just have shit eyesight if they cannot tell the difference.

>implying the ui scaling means that 4k video playback isn't in 4k

You understand that once that cable is laid down all costs are fixed and only being paid off? Couple that with consistently rising prices and ask yourself why the fuck aren't they making the network more robust. Additionally, the biggest data eaters are the forced apps from the data carriers. You think recording every key stroke costs data and storage space? Imagine the redundancy when verizon, samsung, facebook, and google are all doing it on the same fucking phone. No, I don't have that issue but the people that do are the ones clogging the network needlessly.

>720p
>4" screen
ok

Imagine an Internet without Americans.

a true free market can only work with an informed customer, but the customer is always retarded and thus the free market will always be an monopolistic abuse heaven.

>it's trumps fault
you are aware that this all came from decades of lobbying for laws that fuck up the customer?

Says the shill promoting net neutrality, my fellow /r/technology redditor

meant him

>They voted for Drumpf & Pai Ajit poos on Murrikans

>It's all evil drumpfs fault, thIs is why hillary should have won

Okay, first of all laying the cable isn't free and secondly it's not the actual number of bytes transferred that matters, it's about how those transferred bytes translate to bits per second in terms of averages.
Port speeds are finite. if you have everyone sending and receiving data at 1GB/s 24/7, you'll quickly run out of port capacity - even when your port capacity is absurdly high. Which it rarely is. US networks are very underbuilt.

And they aren't making the network more robust because A) they don't have money or B) they don't need to because they have a monopoly guaranteed.

All thanks to government regulation

He literally put an anti-neutrality pajeet to shill against internet freedom. Trump has no idea what he's doing and just wants to reverse all changes Obama made because "muh black president wuz socialist". Trump is an immature child and shouldn't be in charge of anything.

We use 4G at the office because all the land lines are crap.

There are 4 people sharing a single 35 euro/month subscription.
Works surprisingly well.
Was a bit of a hack to connect the 4G device to the router though, there are no standard solutions as far as I'm aware.

If he was good enough for Obama, why wouldn't he be good enough for Trump?

Clearly they are limiting you

My 60Gb unthrottled data plan doesn't have this problem.

The government has no regulations on the number of ports and speed of ports.

Large isps that make billions a year literally shit on their network by not upgrading them.

Twc for years would advertise speeds you can't get and would upgrade people to faster internet but refuse to give them routers and modems that can do it. Even today time Warner still insists on using old ass coaxial cables from 30 fuckin years ago. They'd advertise you a certain speed you'd only get at 3am because they didn't allot enough bandwidth for everyone to use so you're always stifled

They're being sued now for all their bullshut

>60Gb
Doesn't sound like a lot at 1080p, 7GB is not that much.

No.

If all DATA gets throttled it's still neutral.

If they only throttle video but not, say, app updates then it's not neutral.

so you are going to pretend like this didn't come out of years of shit? that's some level of delusion.