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>Mozilla has announced that it would like to collect anonymous user data in order to “better understand how people use” Firefox. The proposed move is quite contentious for many users because Mozilla is making it opt-out; many users feel betrayed by the move given that Mozilla touts Firefox as a privacy-oriented browser.

>Mozilla says that this sort of data collection is necessary in order to make Firefox perform better. The browser-maker wants to find the answers to the following questions “Which top sites are users visiting?”, “Which sites using Flash does a user encounter?”, and “Which sites does a user see heavy Jank on?” By using differential privacy Mozilla claims that it won’t be able to make conclusions about individual users thus preserving their privacy.

>If Mozilla follows through on their plan to implement this telemetry, which it likely will, those bothered for their privacy will have the extra task of heading into the preferences menu and disabling the data collection.

By preform better they mean selling off your data. That's a type of performance too.

> Disabled Encrypted Media Extensions (EME)
> Disabled Web Runtime (deprecated as of 2015)
> Removed Pocket
> Removed Telemetry
> Removed data collection
> Removed startup profiling
> Allow running of all 64-Bit NPAPI plugins
> Allow running of unsigned extensions
> Removal of Sponsored Tiles on New Tab Page
> Addition of Duplicate Tab option
> Locale selector in about:preferences > General

My nigga.

Why not just switch to ie6?

>Mozilla is making it opt-out

Oh no, clicking preferences and clicking through a couple menus to find the option is sooo hard.

Waterfox also has multiprocess? I gotta admit Firefox went better and more stable since that. But recently there has been just too much bullshit with other stuff.

Would use this but I like being able to sync my tabs/boomarks on my desktop, laptop, and phone. Works good in my porn vm though.

back in the day when i used waterfox few years ago it had enourmous memory leaks

is this still an issue?

More PR bullshit trying to justify farming data for advertisers

>not just switching to Brave

it's so sad that a w3c spec is being disabled in privacy focused browsers

feels like losing

>implying clicking on that option will make any difference
kek

wait is waterfox debloated or is that palemoon?

How can they keep fucking up?

Idiots. A single mismanaged controversy could kill a big portion of what little marketshare they still retain. Why the fuck did they feel the need to make a telemetry feature opt-out when it was guaranteed to generate noise and scare away the uninformed?

Just open a huge fucking page during the next update telling the user something that sounds attractive and innocuous, like "Help Firefox get better! Let us known what sites work slow for you automatically so we can solve your issues with them!" and make the opt in button look the most appealing to close the fucking tab.

Safari doesn't have this problem

SJWs don't know how to technology.

JUST LEAVE MY PRIVACY ALONE FUCK OFF WITH YOUR BOTNET

Also... Waterfox will not be removing XUL/XPCOM extensions along with Firefox.

> Keeping useless, unjailed and insecure shit on source code.

my nigga

what else would you expect from a bunch of PC alternative gender lunatics?

Open-source. Some distros compile it anyway so you do not have to trust Mozilla.

>Microsoft

Your kidding right?

None of your addons will work if you want to use the multiprocess.

>>not just switching to Brave
>never having any features besides what the creator wants you to have

Good luck with that.

>How can they keep fucking up?
This is not them "fucking up" this is them "making their last ditch for survival by selling out the userbase that they lost for being inept retards"

all of my addons work with multiprocess
it's webextensions that's going to fuck it all up

They all work for me. Waterfox user here.
Then make your own sync server cuck
No it's fine.
>using shitty webextentions

Do you audit all your addons code? I hope so. Especially if you're using unsigned ones.

At least web extensions are self contained and jailed.

looks like I switched to Brave just in time

>Why not just switch to ie6?
Yes. Giving up is a valid option.

None of this will matter soon

After the post a few days ago on how Mozilla is joining some "alliance" against "fake news" by profiling users based on user data collected during the 2016 election season, I finally realized Mozilla was 100% SJW botnet and there was no going back. Remember the Pocket integration? Remember the in-browser video chat feature? Remember the forced deprecation of add-ons? Switch all the default settings and about:config flags you want, at the end of the day you will be constantly in a silent war with the Mozilla devs with each browser update. Frankly, this was the last straw.

Switched all my machines to Pale Moon, never looked back. Things are working better than ever. Would recommend, 11/10 IGN.

I'm honestly looking forward to netrunner, it feels just like yesterday it was just an idea among many of a browser.

Is water fox worth using? It has full add-on compatibility right?
How's that going? I haven't seen updates on it in awhile here

From what I know, they got tabs and HTTPs working nicely now.

will it have native Sup Forums comfy mode or something like that?

They want it to be expandable with easy to write addons, so it hopefully shouldn't be difficult to make scripting for Sup Forums ricing.

Nice, both of those things are important

mozilla has always been upfront with community testing statistics and its able to be disabled without recompilation

i dont see the issue

>How's that going? I haven't seen updates on it in awhile here
It was never "going". It's a bunch of overly ambitious kids with the idea of creating an entire browser from scratch. To top it off, judging by the code it's their first C++ project.
There's only three modern web engines available right now, Blink/WebKit, Gecko and the Edge fork of Trident. Servo is in development.
All of those were developed over a very long period of time by companies with many resources available: Apple/Google, Mozilla and Microsoft.
Opera switched to WebKit because it could no longer keep up.

I doubt it will ever become more usable than Lynx is now.

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Netrunner doesn't want to be modern with all the fancy bells and whistles

Maybe we should start rating how evil different botnets are and pick a browser from there. The state of browsers right now is fucked

>mozilla has always been upfront with community testing statistics and its able to be disabled without recompilation
Has Mozilla always been SJW before?
>i don't see the issue
cuck

Did you even see their fucking feature list?

say that to the super sensitive kid whos always posting anti firefox stuff when its the best alternative we have with customization ie about:config and .css/.js

youre the cuck who only sees muh sjw when google for example is a way bigger issue

nice job crying about muh sjw though instead of a technical or foss aspect

>Local cache
>Non-bloated smooth UI
>Written in C C++
>Low on dependencies
>HTTPS with HTTP fallback and ports management like Smart HTTPS and HTTPS by default
>Bookmark management
>Userscript support
>"Open with" feature to use an external application, like for using a video player
These are all very reasonable, the original features list was just jotting down ideas of what they could do with it.

>> Addition of Duplicate Tab option
Yeah, because middle click on reload doesn't do that already.

no offense but the UI looks like crap with a lot of unused space and that anime crap kills it with pure autism

UI is still a work in progress and what site do you think you're on?

Why is Mozilla trying to kill Firefox? Last straw for me was when they, for no reason, removed the possibility of changing new tab page to about:blank. Been using Vivaldi since and while it's okay I miss the old uncucked FF.

So, we can all agree these are the top tier alternatives, right?
>Pale Moon
>SeaMonkey
>Waterfox
>IceCat
>Iridium
Also, does anyone know what's going on with Vivaldi? Is it any good?

the NSA made an offer they couldn't refuse, just read their rhetoric

>w-we swear guys, it's for your own good!! we're just... going against our principles, that's all

how are they trying to kill it?

they have always had this enabled for nightly to improve bug testing and they even have tutorials how to disable it in about:config

on the download section they let u know that it has tracking enabled and you can even click a link to see exactly what is enabled

they have been 100% transparent about it unlike google with chrome where you cant change anything without recompilaton

No, those are not very reasonable.
Let's ignore everything else and just stick to two features, one implied and one from your list.
>Layout engine
>Userscript support -> Javascript engine

The CSS box model alone is a fucking mess to implement and that's not even the tip of the iceberg.
You also expect them to implement a complete JavaScript engine AND the dom.

i use vivaldi, it's pretty good
FF-forks will get you owned when a new exploit is found and they don't push a hotfix fast enough

Opt-in

nice larping kid
is this a repeat of another muh fake soros story? look here

>Which top sites are users visiting?
Use Alexa + Statistics

>Which sites using Flash does a user encounter?
Get data from companies that specialise in this

>Which sites does a user see heavy jank on?
Browse the sites yourselves

Fuck you Mozilla.

Built-in.
Those features are still in the browser and blockchains arent anonymous.

Not to mention they already signed contracts with the advertising companies.

by making it shit on purpose
did you not use FF back in the day? it was superior

>t. winfag 10 user
why should a user have to do that in a """privacy""" oriented browser?

qlqlql wmnwnwn

>using flash
quit being dramatic

>no offense but
opinion discarded

who cares i already ditched it when they made it so you cant have new tab redirect to a local file

How about Vivaldi than? It's partially open source I think, but if I have to trade one set of spying+forced ads for a second, likely with less useful add-ons, I'd rather not change

the performance seems to contradict your statement

nightly has been nothing but a huge improvement

>being so bad at reading comprehension that your conclusions are undeniably wrong

firefox was never a privacy browser
its foss community browser

everything can be changed by the user itself and you can even fork the project if you wish or base a project off of it

ie tor/waterfox/palememe/cyberfox/icecat/iceweasel(former)

the fact is there isnt a alternative because everything else depends on it

I'm gonna shamelessly shill for iridium here, because it's the best browser, as fast as chrome, as compatible as chrome, all the addons, except none of the privacy intrusion of google.
Not sure why anyone would use something else that is just plain worse.

nice reading comprehension, no one is saying you can't disable it, but users shouldn't be forced into it

Who said you can't sync in Waterfox?

are you talking to yourself?
because all of that is optional young lad

Waterfox is current Firefux - bullshit
Pale Moon is Firefux as it should be.

The fact that you have to shill it here, and it can't stand on it's own legs means it's inferior.

>"It's partially open-source, I think."
Yeah, that's real convincing.

Reminder that OP's entire article is based on a single email in a mailing list that asked for the possibility of testing the new system for data anonymization.
The questions listed in the article aren't the questions they want the answers to right now but just examples of opt-in questions they used in the past.

It's just clickbait.

Safari can't into standards tho

meanwhile chrome wont let you change anything and youre forced with what google devs working on chromium pull requests into the upstream

>b-b-but muh biases though

>> Disabled Encrypted Media Extensions (EME)
Disabled by default in Firefox. Mozilla offers a download without it for users that don't want it.
EME runs inside a sandbox so it can't do anything if disabled or if the page you're on doesn't explicitly ask for it.
>> Removed Pocket
Wow. They removed a bookmark. I'm sure those 0.1 KB saved will surely improve performance and privacy.
>> Removed Telemetry
>> Removed data collection
>> Removed startup profiling
OK. Got a point there.
>> Allow running of all 64-Bit NPAPI plugins
>> Allow running of unsigned extensions
Enjoy your unsafe extensions.
>> Removal of Sponsored Tiles on New Tab Page
They removed the sponsored tiles that only appear once and are then replaced immediately by your most visited sites (or never if you import a profile)? Wow.
>> Addition of Duplicate Tab option
Already there.

Waterfox seems like a contrariant version of FF. It just removes features, even the good ones, for the sake of being against Mozilla.

ROFL
>Sup Forums tech news
>muh fake soros

b-b-but muh sjw Sup Forumsoys!
MUH SJW!!!!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe

Nice source baiting faggot.

>fugg it was fake news again

whelp lets fall back into muh SJW since that backfired

:^)

welcome to Sup Forums kiddo, first time here?

>raw performance is the only way to measure a browser

>Enjoy your unsafe extensions.
OH MY GOD HOW DID WE EVER GET ALONG WITHOUT MOMMY CHECKING OUR EXTENSIONS FOR US?

>perform better
JEWISH lie

> complains firefox is shit
> won't let firefox gather anonymous info to improve firefox

You can't have it both ways

Opt in
Only use firefox to go to racist sites or watch racist shit
They collected the data, now what are they going to do? make those sites work better or would one of the devs kill themselves that they made the program that enables a person to visit said sites?

they wont find anything with the telemetry, as we have already told them they hired a bunch of useless fucking sjws who care more about virture signalling then focusing on making firefox better.

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i wouldn't even send them my fresh turds

Why not just use pale moon instead?

Waterfox works with more recent extensions, and some sites just work better. I prefer Pale Moon but I have both installed.

What did Bing mean by this?

For me, Palemoon has problems running some addons properly, and there is that "Palemoon.exe has stopped working" i get when I close PM.

But I am using Iridium currently so whatever

might be the best idea i've seen on Sup Forums in while