What did everyone abandon it?

What did everyone abandon it?

What?

No one uses Tox messenger anymore

What does it do that Wire doesn't/won't do within a year?

Signal encryption, open source everything, and, in a year, the ability to host on your own server.

This. Signal is so easy to use even normies can use it. Why bother with Tox?

Is there a desktop app though

Well, Signal is limited to phones and a web app. Wire uses the same protocol, but has a standalone app on Windows, Linux, and Mac, as well as phone apps.

Add the fact that it's very pretty, normie emojis and gifs and the like, the ability to voice/video single/group chat (also encrypted), open sourced everything, AND the ability to host it on your own server coming soon, and I just don't see how Tox could do anything but match Wire.

Yes. Linux, Mac, and Windows. Electron-based at the moment, but this was likely to bring it to as many platforms as possible in the shortest amount of time possible.

Someone here once posted "it leaks the IP, muh botnet"
Then the threads about it stopped, lel

well yeah it's p2p isn't it?

Also it doesn't use Tor out of the box like Tox did.

Because discord came and it more user friendly

Mah privacy > user friendly

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Wire leaks all the metadata while Signal only records when someone logs in. That's their only big fault currently.

I never discounted that Signal was better in terms of security. My only gripe with it is that it is limited to phones and a web app. If they released a stand alone electron app, it would hands down be the better application to use.

you're right, which means not discord

I wasn't defending discord.

stalled development, drama, broken promises.

Just because one is more important than the other, doesn't mean the other isn't important at all.

Indeed, which is why Wire and Signal are the apps of choice, depending on your needs.

The problem with tox is that they claim it's secure, no one will listen, even governments (it was made with this idea).
The problem is that governments wants the metadata. Who had a discussion ? when ? for how long ? where ? etc. And regarding those points it fails since it's P2P and therefore "leak" your IP adress. So a government will still have the metadata.
They can still claim it's secure, and yes it probably is, but it won't protect your much against a government in the end.

Does Wire have any kind of status/presence notification? I mostly use Signal now and it's the big thing I miss from Pidgin with Off-the-Record. All I want to know is when someone's specifically available to talk versus just happens to have the app open, probably in the background.

No. There are no status settings. They don't even let you know whether they are online. The only "status" you will get is "Sent" and "Received" when you send something to them, as well as "..." when someone is typing something to you.

Nothing like that. That said, they have a shield icon next to everyones name that appears when you verify a fingerprint, and disappears when they (or someone else) adds a new device to their account, which I thought was a clever way to let you know that they were verified without having to go and double check the finger print every time they message you or vice-versa.