Also on the FTP site ftp://collectivecomputers.org:21212/ user/pw: guest Alt. link: ftp://guest:[email protected]:21212/ See especially the Cyberpunk folder
Joseph Cook
flat-lining
Dominic Clark
i'm doing stuff for my class on parallel computing with C. literally cyb: the language along with perl
David Thompson
Wrong thread
Brandon King
how?
Tyler Russell
...
Dylan Murphy
...
Cameron Roberts
nobody cares about you roleplayers
Gavin Jones
did that class some years ago, not my best
Henry Phillips
Somehow APL seems more /cyb/, perhaps because I cannot understand a single line of it. Still, it is impressive how just about everything can be solved as a one-liner.
Justin Miller
still too afraid to use irc bc dont want to get doxxed
Chase Scott
still looking for a vps to use for just lurking on irc.
Luis Davis
just ssh in to a random machine or server somewhere. there are bucket loads of empty ones. Or use an in browser IRC. Or hace a dynamic IP address. Or use your neighbors WiFi
Bentley Baker
yeah i guess, maybe i just don't have motivation enough to really even lurk on the channels. i could do any of those things, or none of them.
Mason Brooks
3D animated VR project short "Neocity Cyberpunk", the environments built in the Unreal Engine-4 youtu.be/LfwhcPdNeHc
Makes me wonder, perhaps Unreal Engine 4 could be used to animate the world of Tron as a VR meeting place rather than a game?
Christian Myers
Whats got you down user?
Kayden Reyes
So, did /cyb/ and /sec/ got seperated? I have seem a standalone /sec/ just 10 minutes ago. What happened?
Bentley Davis
>Red Team Sharks
Luke Green
I think that UE 4.8 ships with steamVR support. Expanding on that you could probably nigger rig something together. But man I don't want to deal with the networking nightmare that would be. Also not very profitable just yet. VR is still very expensive and I consider it a niche. Until hardware becomes cheaply available and the supporting framework as well, it's not worth the effort.
Christopher Cooper
rogue actor decided to take shitposting to the next level and demerge the thread. and no one stopped them.
Parker Myers
They separated a few days now. And the infosec threads have been garbage ever since. Because I'm realising, it wasn't either the cyb side or the sec side shitting it up. It's because it's on Sup Forums
Camden Gray
Google Cardboard solutions are not too costly. The network/server infrastructure is perhaps the trickier part. Still, there are supposedly a lot of empty ones according to
Jordan Wright
We had a strawpoll back in June: strawpoll.me/13161298/r The initial result was that people came for either /cyb/ or /sec/ but didn't mind the other. The distribution was fairly Gaussian. Then someone dropped poo into the poll and loaded it heavily against /cyb/ and the result is what we see now. Most likely the same person caused the split recently. What really racks up the autismo points is that he still comes to /cyb/.
Nathaniel Rogers
go on /vg/ and look at the guild wars 2 thread (if it still even exists) to see what true autistic hatred looks like
Anthony Mitchell
>/pedo/ general
fix'd that for you
Dylan Smith
>What really racks up the autismo points is that he still comes to /cyb/. Yeah the >wrong thread posts are killing any discussion. I'm starting to think generals were a mistake. Sup Forums was very different a few years back..
Chase Carter
Anyone here owns cyberpunkdatabase.net/ ? Seems to have plenty of oomph for a VR server.
PHP - Pretty Hard to Protect - is mainly a problem on the server, not so much the download client. In any case you can have the direct FTP link: ftp://cyberpunkdatabase.net/images/wallpapers/ (244 MB)
Aiden Walker
rip /sec/
Colton Thomas
>is mainly a problem on the server, Use a proxy server, can't inject to the web server if you're not seeing the web server
Connor Edwards
i'm sorry, what? that's /fucko/, which is a ded thread now
Nathaniel Cox
Sysadmins have nothing to do with /sec/
Luis Allen
It's obvious you've forgotten which fucking thread youre shitting in. Go the fuck away.
Jaxson Adams
do we discuss tor here or on /sec/?
Easton Evans
do it here, those stuck up fuckers wouldn't talk about it without calling you a larper or someshit. tor, i2p, freenet, ipfs, etc. all are cyb-shit, would say cryptocurrency too, if it weren't for the get rich quick fags who have ruined it. maybe we only do monero. and i propose we should establish a foothold on all the alternative nets.
Michael Mitchell
Hi im interested in cyberpunk infosec. Please start a conversation with me. Just pic a related topic.
Jordan Rivera
I dug this up just 4u. is from an archived thread. there maybe something useful to someone here.
Caleb Rodriguez
based, thanks
Camden Cruz
page 9 bump, how embarrassing it would be to not do a shameless one.
Nicholas Bennett
>cyb bump If these were merged I'd only have to do fucking one
Ryder Gonzalez
Larp larp larp
Benjamin Adams
Shaggy out of Scooby snacks.
Jeremiah Johnson
Thanks for the bump.
Pic forgotten, please post again.
TOR is as much about society, technology and law as it is about security, so it can be discussed both places. There are for instance the occasional rumour that people paid to penetrate TOR also leak info about vulnerabilities to the TOR developers. Snowden and Manning are know but there are probably many more out there feeling parts of the .gov is going too far.
Checks and balances for governments are always hard, moreso for the secret services. There are very good reasons why Central Intelligence Agency is "central" in name only.
Parker Green
Google cardboard is cheap and it seems to be supported by steam VR.
It's shit, but is cheap.
The network needs to be dedicated. Something like an open server probably wouldn't be my first choice. It simply couldn't handle the traffic needed.
So. Front end connection servers, and a back end server that dose the actual hosting, map, routing etc.
Maybe someone could fund this. I might be the next big thing.[spoiler]To be bought by Jewbook[/spoiler]
Grayson Green
>Google cardboard is cheap and it seems to be supported by steam VR. >It's shit, but is cheap. That is all we need for a start. Multi year software development projects take Moore's Law into account, no reason we should not assume that cheap and really good VR headsets will not be available in 3 years time. This is after all a red hot topic, partly fuelled by an industry desperately looking for the next great thing.
>The network needs to be dedicated. Something like an open server probably wouldn't be my first choice. It simply couldn't handle the traffic needed. The advantage of Unreal Engine is that you can have the majority of the scene data pre-loaded at the clients, distributed by any means such as a torrent. you will need updates if you allow deforming terrain or building things but there are tricks around that such as fast update to everyone within the local zone and long latency update with torrents to everyone else. For a social use I think moving around and talking is more important and that is low bandwidth. This would be just like Cheeseplant's House that repurposed a game for social use.
>So. Front end connection servers, and a back end server that dose the actual hosting, map, routing etc. Sure, I think you would need a few servers to scale out. For a test with /cyb/ you need just one machine, after all only 107 have replied to the poll.
>Maybe someone could fund this. I might be the next big thing.[spoiler]To be bought by Jewbook[/spoiler] Probably also cell phone companies would be interested, after all this would generate a demand for higher end phones, chips and screens. Qualcomm Snapdragon is hugely overpowered but the use case is rather limited.
Julian Cook
/cyb/ is obviously a weeb circlejerk about trying to convince yourself you're a warrior fighting the big corporations boogeyman in a dystopian world and it has nothing to do with actual security
Brandon Reed
An idea crossed my find. But why not have it peer2peer? You have a central hub. Where you meet people, talk to them etc. And thats hosted on a main server. but you can always invite them to your place. That is hosted on your machine. Make it as big or small as you like. The data gets streamed form client to client at that point. That would take a lot off the strain off the main servers. Something like Snowcrash meets second life
Evan Cooper
thinking about getting a crt just for /vr/.
Brayden Bailey
Just woke up to see split threads. What's going on?
Connor Cox
Enjoy your ocular cancer.
Dominic Jackson
how long have you been sleeping? must've been days..
Aiden Thomas
How would one prevent a layer 2 mitm on a wireless network?
I know two options are host isolation, and requiring certificates to be used such as in PEAP-MSCHAPv2 authentication systems.
are there any other methods to prevent this attack on wireless?
Brandon Hill
Wrong thread
LARP ALARP LARP
Kevin Adams
of course it is, I forgot im in /cyb/ the LARP thread. this is for those who LARP as whatever a cyberpunk is, not security experts.
thanks user, ill take my leave
Isaiah Peterson
Please take us back ;_;
Cooper Young
Peer2peer is easy to start with but does not scale well, and it is by gaining audience it gets interesting which takes a lot more effort. A middle way would be a federated server system. The torrrenting of non urgent updates I outlined earlier would be peer2peer and would scale simply because it is not time critical.
It would be interesting to see how Elite: Dangerous handles this. They have similar requirements and a partially deformable terrain.
Gabriel Cox
Why do you do this?
Blake Hill
AY BOYS hit me up with some animal-themed sinks will ya
Trying to make sense of the trends of the immediate future
>A Day Made of Glass >youtu.be/6Cf7IL_eZ38 OK, so the future is bright and shiny and the children are well behaved, and going to work is smooth. Work itself is smoother, almost liquid.
In fact the computers will probably do most of the "jobs" >youtu.be/mBadznSDIpY >A World with IBM Watson Watson and his descendants are doing so much ... you really wonder what is left. Anything?
No. No jobs. No neon list back alleys. they are all LED lit now. We need a new generation Cyberpunk.
Joseph Morgan
the 80s was a great time for the genre, but not sure what needs to happen to serve as the catalyst for a resurgence, but lots of stuff has come out recently or will come out in the coming years, maybe just nostalgia, maybe not. this whole right wing wave going through the world will inspire some new stuff. the companies have only become larger and larger too since then. lots happening i guess is my point.
Matthew Edwards
so this is how it ends, not a bang, but a whimper
Jaxon Cruz
Merge the threads again guiz if poss.
Culture beats everything, every time.
Yeah sure you get stupid questions on infosec in here, but they are preferable to the larping sysadmins and risk assessors who cant code and shoot people down on infosec questions.
Can help with resources and stuff on infosec.
t. info sec consultant.
Alexander Mitchell
t. larping info sec consultant
Fixed that for you user.
Asher Green
>not wanting a cool disease High tech low life nigga
Eli Morales
too many rude people there now. maybe in a few weeks ^ this is an example of a rude person
Ayden Roberts
>too many rude people there now. maybe in a few weeks
That would be good. These threads really pulled me back to /g. They were interesting and I didnt see too much toxic behaviour (for Sup Forums)
I get where the hardcore sec guys are coming from sometimes - its a rarefied specialism and some people clamour to get into it without 'doing the knowledge'. Equally at least half of the security guys just run scanners, cant code, and are constantly on the verge of shitting themselves for fear of being unmasked as chancers with no real talent.
I like both churches though. For me the only 'noob' question that bothers me is when people ask what cert to go for but dont have any other abiding /g type interests. Fuck those guys.
t. infosec consultant of 15 years standing (who's seen Blade Runner over fifty times )
Jason Diaz
How do I get into the field, or how did you get into it?
Gavin Adams
I get more autistically angry at certfags than any other group. A highschool kid asking how to do command injection to change their grades is just me in another life, but the certfags drive me up the wall. The security industry as a whole has a huge problem with arrogance and certfags have the unfortunate problem of being the group I notice with this problem the most outside of clueless interns. Sysadmins and developers are teammates not someone to be smug towards. t. Infosec consultant 7 years experience Get some ctfs under your belt and then go look at the plebbit hiring threads in /r/netsec /r/reverseengineering and /r/malware. They will take people with less experience because if you are applying from there you obviously are interested in the field.
Angel Wilson
>How do I get into the field, or how did you get into it?
It's kinda like this in my exp. (excuse shitty ascii)
I got in through normal help desk shit , then did an mcse (really hit the TCP module super fucking hard) and self learned some infra security, (Hacking Exposed books) got picked up at big 4 to be worlds worst pen tester, then contracted as a risk assesor / policies & procedures guy for about ten years. I'm now late forties. Learnt node.js (took me the better part of last three years) and now I'm doing more application security stuff. Which I fucking love.
But long story short there are two paths - Infrastructure expertise or coding expertise. You just sprinkle either discipline with some light info sec knowledge and you should be hireable.
For me personally - the big jump was going from server support to Big 4. They taught me ALOT for the few years I was there - being methodical, professional, practical.
Also, if you can write reports and are not a literal cave troll thats worth its weight in gold. Probably about 75 pc of the work I've done the clients have fuck all interest in security - they just want someone to rain paper about it to cover ass unfortunately.
Happy to answer more questions.
Lucas Russell
ASCII came out balls, have a shitty jpeg instead /cyb
Robert Roberts
you could add the job title of Consultant to either column too - thats wildly variable but it generally means youre cranking reports quite a bit.
Bentley Evans
>Sysadmins and developers are teammates not someone to be smug towards.
amen, brother. Whenever I meet someone with a CISSP I know its not going to end well. Their defining characteristic is knowing you know they dont know. Dangerous fuckers. For every actual /g tard who replaces them an infosec angel gets his fucking wings in Valhalla.
Angel Morris
How do I test pens ?
David Ward
>How do I test pens ? in your case rectum, point first.
Joshua Nelson
that job has been taken by the robutts already.
Aiden Adams
just got back from the cyb night drive
Jack Taylor
whatever happened to the dude with the bunker? wonder how much dosh he is making on XMR
Carter Baker
what is this thread even about?
Blake Brown
CP Now post your feet
David Carter
They really take people with little experience? I've been wanting to get into the field but Im scared I'll have to start really really low at some fucking helpdesk that has nothing to do with infosec. Id rather get into the field as an apprentice or some shit and learn everything there is to learn about malware, reverse engineering, and shit like that. Im actually an elecrtical apprentice and I really like the way they do the learning. Go to school in the afternoon study some theory's and how to work in the field and then actually do the work during the day, being supervised by a knowledgeable guy.
Jose White
did he draw that waifu?
James Martinez
I do not wish for the threads to be remerged because of the things I see in this thread. Please keep /sec/ dead if it's not going to be useful. Otherwise you are a problem if you believe two distinctly different things should be merged for no other reason because you are lonely. This is how bad marriages happen, this is why we split.
Parker Parker
>Id rather get into the field as an apprentice wish that was more common but i think it's largely been replaced with the 4 year degree now, i know in programming but probably information security that's not just helpdesk. i think you should keep up with what you're doing now and do hacking as a hobby
Justin Davis
Yes, grabbing from there is pretty common to at least get into the first round of interviews. Just make sure you have a solid amount of knowledge and something a bit official looking. If you don't have college, github and blog write-ups of ctfs are your resume. You need to stress experience. If you can use burp, are familiar with xss, csrf etc it's doable. Make sure you are familiar with the entire flow of https and DH as those are our hazing questions. Knowing what perfect forward secrecy is will go a long way. Additionally if you can work IDA to find vulns you are in great shape as much of the industry has forgotten how to do memory exploit but it's coming back into fashion again with the rise of IoT.
Logan Nguyen
how many red teamers does it take to screw up a network?
Alexander Adams
thanks fbi
Easton Kelly
I actually came here to see if he was around. He popped in a thread over on /biz/ earlier today or yesterday. Just like everyone else he's up about 3x on XMR, putting him right around $128,000/month.
I'm seriously considering doing something similar. The idea of this kind of passive income is too tempting to pass up.
Owen Gomez
> Merge the threads again guiz if poss.
This....I think the divide was a shame...people who want to be spoonfed have languished in these arts as long as I can remember.
Likely most of these anons seeking easy answers don't have that NEED TO KNOW and an addiction to that moment when clarity strikes you like a euphoric hammerblow, temporarily reverting you tp a grinning, deeply lost in wonder fool.
But we could be wrong about some of them...maybe some will learn from the scorn and improve independently into someone who teaches us something someday.
I believe cyberpunk has had an effect on /sec/ just like scifi writers/directors like Bradbury, Asimov, Clarke, Kubrick and Lucas had on generations of scientists.
These influences are especially prominent/noted in astro/quantum physicists, where many of the greatest thinkers of our species have advanced our civilization.
In their method and experimentation, many have drawn from the creativity and humanity of the scifi they loved and struck it against . the hard disciplines of mathematics and science that also define/defined their pursuit.
Gibson and Stephenson may not be a technically adept polymath like Asimov, but cyberpunk and cybersecuroty are both still very young in comparison to other scifi conventions/genres.
Ian Jones
(cont'd)
Cyberpunk inspires me in my work and how I manage my lab.
Those who despise this general could call me a larper, but right now I am on break from remotely soloing a red team engagement against an industrial facility where I am trying to utilize multiple protocolcs/services to force an automated service tool to deliver/execute commands/code on all of the systems it services/gathers from/reports on, thereby circumventing the trust boundaries and restrictive policies of the network with software meant to guard/service it.
After sniffing the traffic(thereby seeing he protocols/activity repeatedly utilized by the service tool ) and dorking the manuals, a common trope enterered my mind:
A human is outnumbered and outgunned by a technologically superior enemy,but the character evens the odds by gaining an advantage over one of there own and leveraging it to do what the human cannot, thereby defeating humanities newest ,computational marvel with humanities oldest: the human mind itself.
Of course, there is aways a chance I could trip some IDS and feel really fucking stupid in the next few hours....but at least I am having a blast doing it.
Long live cyb and sec, and have a great (safe, but not to safe) night one brothers and sisters
Adrian Ward
damn, dude is doing alright. i don't think i'm in the position to buy in, but it's such a interesting new market. filed with people in it solely to make the money though, but you see that everywhere i guess.
