It's funny how even Intel admits they're going to have performance regressions with 10nm.
Oliver Nelson
DELET
Owen Howard
i was quietly optimistic about amd returning with something good and it looks like they delivered so fucking hard
Xavier Walker
>With Epyc you get more cores, more performance per socket, more memory capacity, more PCIe lanes, and all for notably less money. Intel still wins, barely, on single threaded performance, something that has no place in the workstation market. In short Intel wins on nothing with the Xeon-W and SemiAccurate’s talks with large OEMs confirm this is reflected in sales figures. AMD wins this round, Intel didn’t even show up to fight. Ayy. The kikes are dead.
Carson Scott
OY VEYYY
DELETE THIS REVIEW RIGHT NOW
WE NEED TO KEEP THE ISRAEL PLANT OPEN
SHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Josiah Lopez
You do realize you're not funny at all, huh?
Jordan Garcia
>Intel didn’t even show up to fight. dumb kikes got thrown right into the oven in more ways than one.
10nm is already better than what Skylake-X is using so it's.
Angel Cox
That really depends on NGG pipeline being ready. Right now it's not.
Joseph Phillips
MODS! Delete this anti-semitic thread.
Reminder: if you buy AMD you're supporting nazis.
James Baker
>NOOOOO STOP RUBBING IT IN MY FACE GOY
Gavin Gutierrez
This could very well all be true but fucking hell I don't think I've ever seen an article this fucking biased. Hard to take it serious desu.
Benjamin Watson
>calling out Intel's retarded marketing and even more retarded segmentation is bias ? I too love buying shitty Xeon with 4 channel memory instead of 7551p.
Wyatt Barnes
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Henry Mitchell
I would buy a 32 core epyc but no one sells either a workstation board or the CPU itself.
John Reyes
Goodbye Intel, caught with their pants down. Jesus.
Parker Perez
So it's now biased to compare different hardware and point out flaws?
What is wrong with you?
Aaron Nguyen
for it to be bias the competition must exist and in that case there isnt
Mason Bell
Well technically you can waste money on these abortions called Xeon-W.
Juan Scott
When AMD will start selling EBYN?
Connor Ross
You can order servers with top three SKUs right now AFAIK. Don't know about the rest.
William Sullivan
AMD for life
Jonathan Garcia
I for one genuinely welcome the return of a competitive AMD. Shit's going to be fun, and good for consumers. And I gotta watch Toradora again.
Lucas Lewis
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Henry Cook
At Intel, our products are more stable than four cores glued together. Please buy our servers? We know we have forced you to buy more hardware than you needed for inflated costs. But that was all in the past! We learned our lesson, please baby, please. We have now segmented our product lines that we no longer understand what we are selling any more. Just to give you more options for your robust battle tested needs. Give us one more chance?
Josiah Nguyen
That sounds lazy, Rabbi.
Wyatt Phillips
>dead Dead, rotten, desecrated and their (((souls))) devored
Kevin Morales
do xeons still have better single core (db implementations)?
Charles White
At this rate, accounting price and shit, no.
Isaac Smith
does epyc have psp on it?
Dylan Sanchez
not price perf but purely single core. if it does some cases wont bother with epyc.
Adam Brown
G L U E L U E
Alexander Evans
>wanting single core performance >on a $10,000 28-core CPU You're a dumbass.
Bentley Hughes
you run 28 instances you retard, not every programme can be optimised for multiple cores
Nathan Ortiz
ding dong, the kikes are dead! which old kikes? the intel kikes! ding dong, the intel kikes are dead!
Luke Murphy
>muh unoptimized programs Use less shitty software and you won't have to blow 10 grand on a piece of silicon shit, then.
Andrew Cook
Barely. They can't clock these too high.
Ryder Morris
not everything can be optimised though.
thats something i noticed, the clock rates are terrible.
Samuel Brooks
Reading comprehension. Don't use shit that "can't" be optimized. If the author won't optimize it and you can't optimize it yourself it's time to either look for a new program or suck it up and stop paying thousands for CPUs that are crippled in JUST the right way to make it play nice with your shitware.
William Powell
again not everything can be multithreaded, which is why running more instances is a workaround. i was never talking about certain softwares, rather there is no known way possible to multithread any implementation of a program.
Joshua Jackson
Sometimes you want 28 instances, sometimes you want 28 threads on the same task.
You can't make one into the other, and more often it is better to thread out than spawn new instances.
Benjamin Edwards
>rather there is no known way possible to multithread any implementation of a program You mean there is no known way possible to multithread every implementation of a program.
David Taylor
>Intel announces the MAGNYFICENT CPU, composed of 64 intel atom dies, each glued on top of their own 4MB L3 cache, glued on top of the multiplexed serial interposer >"you want glue? we have the glue, we have a lot of glue!"
Noah Evans
Whoa, why would I buy that over Navi? Navi would have even more glue.
Leo Edwards
no, any.
of course
Ryan Ward
How the fuck did you find a process that can't be multithreaded at all?
Dominic Harris
"Any" would mean that can't multithread any program, which is just incorrect.
Brody White
Somethings need to be done linearly, so you can't thread them out.
Justin Cook
Xeon-W are fucking workstation CPUs
Epyc CPUs are server CPUs.
Knowing the difference may save your career.
Epyc aren't so hot in workstation loads because they don't scale much beyond 12-threads. You still need clockspeed/IPC to back it up.
Xeon Ws have the advantage here. If anything Xeon-W are Intel's attempt to fight off Ryzen and Threadripper.
2213 and 2215 are sleepers if your workloads don't require a ton of cores just clockspeed/IPC.
$300-400 for 48-PCIe and quad-channel DDR4. AMD has nothing comparable to it at this time. They might release a binned "Threadripper" a.k.a Ryzen in TR4 packaging to compete against it.
Ian Howard
DELET
Bentley Green
Explain what your goal is. Unless each and every step requires the previous step's result, it can be threaded to some degree.
Ayden Peterson
1900x is 8cores and 60 lanes at $549. And most werkstation loads are I/O bound anyway.
Asher Bennett
really cooks my macaco
Gavin Smith
Xeon-W is Xeon CPU with very small cache relative to amount of Cores. So in Workstation loads it's going to choke just like 7700k does
Connor Russell
It's 1MB L2$@core though.
Colton Hill
EPYC 7251 128 PCI-E lanes. 400 USD. INTEL BTFO
Nolan Flores
I just realized, you can buy about 2,000 RasPis for the price of one top-of-the-line Xeon. What's the singlecore performance on a Pi?
Joshua Bailey
That would be an interesting project
Isaiah Campbell
I just remembered this fucker was working for that Bollywood movie while he should've been working on vega.
Brody Bell
>create Docker instance with scripts to launch necessary programs to start workflow, plus blinky lights for status >set up rack of raspberry pis >create 2,000 job bakery >draw almost as much power as a Xeon
Evan Sanders
Like 1/20th of whatever Intel offers.
Adam Harris
Numbers? I want the proofs, user
Lucas Hernandez
the latency would be incredible. buy a tesla instead
Aiden Lewis
Why stop at 28 instances precisely when you could be running 64 instances? Or 128 instances in a 2S configuration?
Hudson Scott
>Please buy our servers? Please kill yourself?
Anthony Sanders
>Epyc aren't so hot in workstation loads because they don't scale much beyond 12-threads.
hehe yeah infinity fabric has nothing on good ol bingbus
Jacob Watson
Maybe you're not funny?
Oliver Watson
I was just saying that sometimes that is required. I'm not saying you can't thread most things.
Jonathan Sanders
So you're saying you're full of shit?
Aiden Martin
No, I'm saying that there are some things you can't thread, but most things you can thread.
I'm not arguing for single core performance, just that sometimes your application needs to be a single path.
Zachary Cook
That is extremely rare so why are you even arguing for it?
Isaac Edwards
you do know both supermicro and tyan builts epyc workstations right? epyc dont scale ? we fucking know epyc scales almost linear since the launch of ryzen they dont have any restriction in terms of ccx i cn totally see how amd doesnt have anything at that price bracket like literally
Isaiah Long
Because it does exist.
Don't just discount it.
Brayden Lopez
Why the fuck intel doesn't simply sell their fabs?
Elijah Wood
I'm thinking on blow a shitton of money on a epyc workstation. Only for e-penis.
Juan Murphy
go for it, buddy. post Crysis benchmarks plz :-----DDDDDDDDD
Jaxon Perry
This
Chase Richardson
DELID THIS
Owen Watson
you know that it only has better single core perf because it does a >4GHz turbo when a single one of them is in use right?