/twmt/ Tiling Winder Manager Thread

Not a general.

> Resources

i3wm - i3wm.org/
Babby's first twm, easily customizable from a central config file, has sane
defaults. Usable out of the box.

Xmonad - xmonad.org/
Written and configured using haskell, so knowledge of haskell is recommended.
Highly extensible, stable, and dynamic.

bspwm - github.com/baskerville/bspwm
Binary Space Partitioning Window Manager
bspwm is a tiling window manager that represents windows as the leaves of a full binary tree.

dwm - dwm.suckless.org/
Dynamic Window Manager written in C.
Slightly higher learning curve than most other twms, basic knowledge of C is
necessary for configuration as it takes place in the header file. Very
lightweight.

awesomewm - awesomewm.org/
Supports lots of features out of the box, less initial configuration necessary than some others.
Shares the concept of tags with dwm which can be more flexible than workspaces

ratposion - nongnu.org/ratpoison/
Ratpoison is a simple Window Manager with no fat library dependencies, no fancy graphics, no window decorations.

herbsluftwm - herbstluftwm.org/
Manual twm with similar tiling system to i3
Can be reconfigured on the fly using herbstclient

> Brief introduction/ explanation
[YouTube] TheAlternative.ch - LinuxDays FS16 - Linux for Experts course (embed)

> Comparison of various twms
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Comparison_of_tiling_window_managers

Other urls found in this thread:

github.com/Airblader/i3
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_guide
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/General_recommendations
github.com/Dither/full-text-rss
github.com/way-cooler/way-cooler
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

Respond.

>Slightly higher learning curve than most other twms
I think dwm is one of the easiest window managers to use due to it not using fucking Lua or some other inane language or configuration syntax. It's damn simple.

Never used dwm, but maybe they meant default config?

Nice colours and nice track playing!

>at least 5 windows just for music
>LCD Soundsystem: American Dream
>no terminal
>big ass clock taking up precious screen estate

I can do all this shit from inside emacs.

could go with something dwm-like(tags+small source+automatic tiling) that isnt dwm, updates break most patches like the 'recent' update of the drw code, I manually added the other updates and just skipped that one but i cant see this holding up through the years of using it.

I've looked at a few projects but a lot either dont have tags or have a huge source

Did the mods start autosaging these threads or something?

Shame if they did because these have been the most useful / productive generals there's been in a while

If you're going to have all that shit open, might as well pool it together in a single workspace.

No

>[YouTube] TheAlternative.ch - LinuxDays FS16 - Linux for Experts course (embed)

Nice rack.

Why avoiding "twmg" and specifying it's not a general then?

To avoid the shitposters coming in asking "wow this needs a general???????"

how's the newsbeuter filter?

>i3wm
also don't forget i3-gaps github.com/Airblader/i3

Aren't these the same fork now? I think you can just install i3wm and add the gaps lines in your config and it works.

you mean sway
i3gaps ad i3wm probably will be abandoned in favor of the one that supports wayland as default

so i3 is where I go for a noob that wants to stand out in desktops threads? how easy are we talking here

I never understood why so many people use i3-gaps instead of standard i3. You are wasting screen estate.

i3 is so easy. It's a seriously good wm.
Don't act coy. You know way. At least I know why I use i3-gaps, I prefer how it looks. I look at my computer screen a lot so I like to look a way that makes me happy.

I have a pi running a transmission client 24/7 and generally I use the browser to look at running torrents but do you know a cli tool I can use to look at downloading stuff? something I can integrate in a tiling window

Redpill me on i3gaps
Why would you want gaps?

I think whoever wrote the sticky just saw you have to configure dwm by editing a C file and their brain froze.

The WM itself has very little learning curve because it does next to nothing, and you don't need to understand C to edit its config.

You DO need to understand how your distro's xsession configuration works, which I think fucks a lot of people up.

> Wanting to be happy

Serious question. Why do you all use tiling window managers? I don't see how they could really have advantages over just using a normal desktop environment with side/corner window snapping, and twms only have disadvantages instead (no overlapping).

>not listing stumpwm
>not listing your lisp brothens wm

pathetic op

It's just preference. Have you tried any window managers? Maybe you will end up liking it. Or not.

because you're a closet macfag

>lisp
>not xmonad and haskell

pathetic

People who use i3gaps are closet macfags, or I am?

Is the new youtube UI fucking up workspace switching for anyone else?
I'm using i3-gaps and compton (with fade transitions) and everytime I switch to / from a youtube page the video and half of the other elements ignore the fade and just stay on the screen the whole time.

I tried i3. I found it pretty confusing, but also inconvenient. I do like the riced look where you have some window laid out prettily, but I just can't see how it beats a normal floating WM/DE for actual real productive work. Quite often for example I overlap windows because I only want to see parts of them, and floating windows let me do this easily. With tiling they'd just get squashed and I'd be forced to see every part of the window, even when I don't want to.

- far lighter than any DE so it's good for toasters
- never breaks down, for the good ones at least unless you config it wrong
- never have to deal with shit DEs that try to tile by snapping shit in half ass ways when a twm takes care of it immediately and easy
- a lot of twms allow for floating as well so really it's just a very light wm without the DE useless shit.

It really depends on what you're using linux for. I use mine for coding really and i mainly have emacs up and fullscreened anyway so i have basically a twm thanks to emacs alone. I don't really use any of the perks DEs give so there's no reason to not just use a very light WM.

Think about how many times you've ever had a case where you wanted 5 windows ontop of each other with the first one overlapping by 40%, the second one overlapping by exactly 56%, the third by 25.2% etc.
There's hardly any cases where floating windows are useful, and in those cases most twmg's let you have floating windows anyway.
The majority of the time you want one window fullscreen, two windows side by side, three windows side by side etc. which a tiling wm makes 100x easier to do, with fast keyboard shortcuts so you don't have to manually drag / resize windows to get them how you want.
Plus the fact that they're much more lightweight and configurable than other desktop environments.
Those are my reasons for using a twm anyway.

Haven't been on Sup Forums for a while. Are desktop threads still dead? I miss them

It's like /qst/ and /tg/, mods moved fetch threads to /w/ but people still make them even though it's against the new found rules

This isn't really an advantage, but I would say that if you work in Emacs 8 hours a day, the transition to a twm is not nearly as much of a brain fuck and makes sense. At least it did for me.

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I have just installed arch how do i get setup from here do i need to install a desktop environment such as kde first

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Read the wiki.
1. wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_guide
2. wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/General_recommendations

thoughts on chunkwm?

Thanks for showing me the way. I'm staying with KDE, but I've installed dmenu and binded it i3-style.

Also binded the "Present Windows" to Ctrl+Enter so I can switch without mouse or alt-tabbing.

It's extremely comfortable. Thanks, /twm*/!!

Zero thoughts provoked

>Why would you want gaps?

>Why do you all use tiling window managers?

There are two different answers depending on if you are
a. using it for ricing
b. actually are low on screen space and find it productive

If you're on some 1366x768 garbage and you have more than 1 or 2 windows open, it's actually quite effective, both for the tiling and for the workspace management.

However a lot of people just use mega gaps and floating windows for ricing. I think it's funny when I see someone post an i3 desktop screenshot along with their screenfetch and see they are running some crazy rig with a 2560x1440 or whatever

What RSS feed is that?

newsbeuter & github.com/Dither/full-text-rss

i'm using i3 and have got all my buttons working but the volume output is really low, anyone know how to rectify this?
Using void btw

Don't know about Void but you can use alsamixer.

If you have hardware volume buttons that aren't working you might have to add some lines to the config. I had to for my thinkpad. Just google it you can copy and paste.

reaching comfiest levels where i'm fully satisfied with a stable environment

I don't know dude, I only ever mpv my yt vids
maybe watching them outside the browser can help you

give me your wallpaper

sure thing guv

thanks

+ bonus

>galiumos
is that a chromebook?

Definitely needed to use a tiling window manager to achieve this look.

Yes.

So what are my options for Wayland? Just sway?

What about this

github.com/way-cooler/way-cooler

>using wayland

Where is dad?

Speaking of SwayWM, does anyone actually use it? I gave it a shot but it has a problem of random flicker.

What if I genuinely like my current DE but just want a way to tile windows?

they usually die before bump limit anyway

check for tiling shortcuts in your settings, i think most major DEs have them
xdotool scripts otherwise

wayland isn't there yet. there's still like half a dozen problems I encountered. You have to remember that it's supposed to be a drop-in replacement.

Not sure what settings to check. They'll already be set as keyboard shortcuts or -?

Started messing with i3 about a week ago and I'm in love. I'd like an easy way to setup programs to certain workspaces on startup but it seems like theres no streamlined way to do it. Is there another wm that would better accommodate that or should I just stick with this?

Ron Paul, Sup Forums

I'm a bit different than you guys. Normally I browse Sup Forums and I kind of have a life.

Just dropping in to say hello to you niggers today.

Blurred out some pieces of my screenshot but the CIA Niggers already know who I am.

>bluring out 192.168.*.*
What a fucking retard.

Better hide that LAN IP address and processor before those CIA niggers find out, amirite xdddddDDDDddd!!1!1

>pol user
>reddit

shocking

You can replace just the window manager with most DEs

I hate most of reddit.

r/DarkEnlightenment, r/Linux, and r/TheRedPill are okay to lurk on


Those last octets are none of your business, nigger.

So the CIA Niggers don't actually know. The NSA Niggers however do.

slash r slash the red pill

lmao

The redpill is mostly a meme and the "theories" posted are made by kissless hugless virgins

Red pill use to refer to jews running the world. Now it's secret truths and political belief, and unpopular opinions.

Most of the theories line up to real-world stuff. Yeah there are a lot of posts that are shit. The stuff on the sidebar is good. The sub was better in 2014.

Yeah. The dwm config is super easy, it's like 100 lines maximum and things are mostly self explanatory if they are not described by comments.
The only thing that has a learning curve is probably implementing your own features in your fork, which after about an hour of using dwm you will be compelled to make.

Someone better give me a (You) or I'll fucking install Vista.

>Also binded the "Present Windows" to Ctrl+Enter

I'm gonna look into how to do that. Why is your resolution so low? I'm on a 13"-retina macbook, running Gentoo obviously, probably gonna switch to NixOS though.

i3 or i3+xfce?

You don't really need xfce things in your i3 (other than thunar maybe and xfce4-screenshooter). For me, I started with mapping some of xfce things to i3 keybindings, like switching workspaces on Super+Num, Moving windows with Super-Shift-Arrow for fast tiling, etc, and then just at one moment I completely switched to i3, spent half an hour on making it work my way, and now I use it just like that.

Are TWMs useful on a laptop?
I use one on my desktop but I don't feel like I'd get any good use out of it on a laptop, I use all my applications maximized.

Absolutely, if your hands almost always on home row, you waste minimum time switching windows and workspaces.

If for some reason you need overlapping every wm has floating mode

Openbox + i3

> window manager + window manager

xmonad is a beautiful piece of software

Because it just works, gives you more of that precious screen real estate (especially useful on laptops) and is light on system ressources for muh battery life
But ignore ricerfags with their gaps, transparency and shit

>Babby's
Baby's

So if I go install arch and just use a tw will I have considerably less problems long term?

Or if I'm just wishing to use terminal and a simple tw It would be better to install something like ubuntu minimal?

Is there any tiling window manager that doesn't hide window titlebars?

What window manager should I use when I install Gentoo?
I've been using i3 for about a year now and I got bored of it.
My only requirement is that there be a way to set the initial size and position of specific floating windows.

up you go, thread!

DWM has all that.

I don't have to implement it myself, do I?

thank you...tirno...