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what would've happened if sun had made the switch to intel sooner? could they have pulled and OS X? should they have switched to powerpc, itanium, or mips instead?

what if some company other than oracle had bought sun? maybe ibm or intel?

what if the kernel had been open sourced and the gnu project decided to make a userland over it much like they did for linux and now hurd?

pieces

Solaris had an x86 version since the early 90s

What is the point of these OSes anyway? i mean for servers there is BSDs and Linux distros that has a fuck ton of the marketshare on server, even they are increasing their space on desktop (linux)
what is the point of these OSes anymore?

it was great fun at the time, but face it, anything with saving has already been saved/forked

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Also, there's openindiana and other semi-dead forks

>Initial release June 1992; 25 years ago
If you can't figure it out...

they got fucked by linux and BSD on marketshare long ago too,what is the point continuing doing OSes like this?

linux and BSD got fucked by Windows long ago on marketshare too, what is the point continuing doing OSes like this?

>be company
>use product
>years pass
>product btfo by other products
>company doesnt want to spend potentially millions to change product because it still works
>keep product until it is no longer financially viable

Solaris is great, once you get used to it. All the memes which are making their way into Linux now were there a decade ago or more, and done more correctly.

Oracle really fucked up an OS but the community has taken off to some degree, and there are a number of companies using some or another version of OpenSolaris by the by, so it will remain supported for certain uses. Running it as a desktop or workstation OS is pointless these days though.

MAKE SOLARIS GPL!
SAVE SOLARIS!!!

it was very poorly supported with few drivers written for Intel platforms. the SPARCs worked right after an OS installation, like a Mac

it's good to have variety in an ecosystem. if the whole world was wintel, it could get decimated by a single problem (think how panama disease wiped out gros michel - the main banana in the world up to the 1950s - and imagine a wannacry/chernobyl or similar bug affecting wintel)

also, exploit writers are less likely to bother writing malware for niche OSes

This is basically the death knell for Illumos on new bare hardware unless Joyent hires a bunch of driver developers.

Solaris on Intel always had 0 chance. People used Solaris because they wanted to use SPARC, and without SPARC nobody with a brain would pay for Solaris when Linux and BSD exist and are free.

This. There should be a GPL version for historical purposes. Same as Doom

A true patriot

Is there any reason to use SmartOS over Linux+KVM+ZFS?

There's already Illumos and its various distributions. Oracle deliberately re-closed Solaris in 2010 after it had been open source for years.

>there will NEVER be a mainstream commercial OS designed this well

SmartOS is more solid than Linux equivalents that try to do "everything in a container" like RancherOS or CoreOS, and has preconfigured USB and PXE boot images. The downside is that, well, it's not Linux, and /usr is read only, so you get a bunch of stuff that breaks. If you can deal with that though, it's fantastic. I ran it as my primary server platform for quite a while.

>2017
>not using AIX

I wonder what the cunt Solaris technical lead at Sun who insisted on releasing Solaris under GPL-incompatible license so that nothing can be ported to Linux thinks now.

The only way for Solaris to survive imho. Who knows, maybe if they do it soon enough we see it ported to enough devices to be used as desktop again.

daily reminder there are no vulnerabilities in sparc or solaris... the more jewtel, the worse

Shit. Glad it's finally fucking gone.

After 20 years of Linux & BSD experience are the Solaris differences worth learning? I was leaning "yes" until the Oracle layoffs. I wonder if OpenSolaris derivatives will die with it.

Fuck solaris.

Its dead

illumos forked Solaris before Oracle cut the source off. Solaris was released under the CDDL, which is probably intentionally incompatible with the GPL to prevent things like ZFS from being mainlined in Linux.

Opensolaris have been forked. The original solaris used some code and api from it, so you can call illumos kinda superior, but with pajeet support. Snake oil.

Maybe if we sign a petition, there seems to be enough people wanting for a GPLed Solaris.

Oracle would never open the source.

what do they get from keeping a closed source project they're killing off? this is so dumb

or are they too afraid someone might make something out of it when they couldn't with their millions of shekels

Oracle wanted rights to Solaris only for the patents that came with it. It's a miracle it continued to stay afloat this long.

If anything, they likely were obliged to support existing customers and those customers have probably all gone away.

every solaris fork is basically dead. smartos has little to no relevance in the real world.

it's actually sad but that's what happens with all good things.

every decent company with a solid research and engineering lab is dead. now all we have i google without having much technological progress.

patent hoarding does no good for mankind. look at IBM

and who cares exactly? nobody! if your statement were relevant people would do something about the insane patents that are allowed in the US. patenting basic concepts that have been on the market before patenting it was even thought of.

even fucking emojis are patented. just shows how broken the concept around it is and the american government support companies abusing it.

shitposting on a good thread

It's not about x86 as much as open-sourcing the thing. They took too long and chose a bad license for political reasons.

>what do they get from keeping a closed source project they're killing off? this is so dumb

To re-open source it they'd likely have to comb through everything they added since 2010 when they closed it and make sure there's nothing infringing in there that could get them sued, no mis-licensed code, etc.

There is literally 0% chance that Oracle would expend any man hours on giving something away for free. Even if they were 100% sure there was nothing in there that could get them sued they still wouldn't do it, because they're Oracle.

Are you a shill or just stupid?

what am i shilling, are you literally retarded?