Mate vs XFCE

Of the only two DEs worth a shit, which does Sup Forums prefer?

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MATE. XFCE is deprecated.

XFCE, just learn how to configure properly.

I tried mate but I started missing the Whisker Menu, Thunar Custom Actions, creating launchers by right-clicking the desktop and the panel's native Deskbar function. The mate menu I don't care for at all and the classic Gnome menus steal valuable panel real estate and are slightly confusing with redundant entries.

Xfce is better, both of them are shit compared to real current year DE's like KDE and GNOME though

I like XFCE on my shit laptop

Cinnamon
>muh ram usage
You do have at least 16gb, right? What's it matter? 300mb doesn't mean shit when you open up the goddamn "web 2.0"

>Whisker Menu
github.com/solus-project/brisk-menu

>menus
>not just using a launcher/keybinds

Isin't Cinnamon so unstable they were forced to make a "restart desktop" widget? lel

If I wanted Clear Linux, I would just use it.
I don't want both my hands tied to the keyboard at all times. Same reason I don't use i3. On a laptop, sure, but I need one hand free for...stuff.

fine then
>not compiling mycroft and voice controlling your computer
mycroft.ai/

How do you configure? I feel like besides compositor/WM, there isn't much to configure since you should be in a terminal at all times anyway. Webm related is Xfce

mate and XFCE are so visually similar it's down to feature set for me anyway.

They're both shit. I choose XFCE since it's less glitchy.

Hopefully it gets ported to Wayland so they can't fuck up their WM & Compositor as badly as they did on X. Screen tearing and unpatched bugs galore.

I only get 400 MB usage with Plasma.

>400 MiB
>only

Cinnamon or MATE when I can be bothered to optimized. Unity eye cancer when I can't. XFCE is just buggy enough and just unpopular enough that certain issues can't be Googled. If you actually doing work your screen(s) are a terminal, a browser and a text editor. Comfy applications beat DE every time.

What is this, 2002?

All DEs are superfluous. The best Unix wm I've used is cwm for OpenBSD. It's simple and gets out of your way, without tiling or vim keybindings or scripting or themes or any of that pretentious crap.

>an X program is too complex
>therefore port it to another window system
Waylogic everyone

Nothing has changed since then, the same things can be done with the same amount of code. RAM increased don't excuse bloat, unoptimization, and misuse of system resources. You can see examples of such garbage development in the existence of Electron.

>not falling for the 16GB meme
we have shittons of ram nowadays user a ~200-300MB difference is negligible, especially with SSD's

Mate
it's fine, they both are and I've used both.

Xfce. Mate is worse in every way.
>less customizable
>based on GNOME (2)
>less user friendly

You're also forgetting muh battery usage which is at least 25% worse on cinnamon. So even if it's "better" for touch screens Xfce still beats it in battery life and I believe MATE would too.

>DEs are superfluous
>tiling wms are pretentious crap
Different strokes for different folks. I actually think that floating WM's are useless. They are like usual DEs but worse. Most of the time they don't even have a basic functionality like window snapping.

>muh battery usage
and windows would beat all of them because Linux is shit on laptops

It actually doesn't as I've tested it today. It gets the same usage as cinnamon.

It's been proven that keyboard interfaces (like tiling wms and vim/emacs) actually make the user work significantly slower while thinking that they are working faster, because the mouse is operated by the primal physical part of the brain while keyboard usage requires constant thought and never becomes as natural as moving your hand.

KDE usage is around 450MB on my PCS. If mint is sheit it`s not KDE fault

I use a TWM because it just works for me and is enough. I also have cinnamon installed just in case i want to use a de.

I use xfce...

I just like it for some reason, I can pretty much use it to do anything I want. If I turn off composting, not exit web browser, turn off blue tooth, ect... I can get my memory down to 400mb. But that's stupid... I use xfce on all my computers.

Xfce, it only uses 165MB of RAM to load the system on my machine.

xfwm would get canned and if they use libweston as a base they won't fuck up screen tearing or window manager implementation.

I don't understand the purpose behind splitting the bottom taskbar into two

i3

dwm

Openbox

windows 7 lasts longer than Mint Cinnamon on my laptop, but to be fair I only dim screen in Mint and in windows there's the power saving mode that slows down cpu and stuff as well. I don't take my shit hiking or anything so I don't really care

GNOME Flashback.

does it even matter how much RAM your DE uses when the average user has 16GB of it?

implying the average user fell for the 16gb meme

I use mint cinnamon at work, its pretty solid, polished and beautiful.

>2018-3 months
>Fell for the fell for 16gb ram meme

...

Drag it over?

the point im trying to make is why waste that much fucking space to begin with, and that there's plenty of space to fit the names without having to "drag it over"

KDE uses 350 mb on my desktop running arch and about 450 on my opensuse laptop.

Your autism knows no bounds!

>having to stretch your windows
laughs in twm

>implying you need a terminal bigger than 80×24

autism is attempting to maintain an irrelevant distro where your own fucking ISOs get compromised, then making the centerpiece some halfassed DE that's just the same fucking windows metaphor with all of the same lag of the DE that whiny little babbies couldn't adapt to with obvious design flaws such as that shown in the picture

Daily reminder that you aren't worth a shit unless you run your own fork of dwm with the features you want implemented yourself.

I love mate but I'm all about stability and that means Xfeces.

cinnamon, openbox or kill yourself

runs fine on debian you shill. lxqt is the unstable piece of garbage that no lxde users asked for

More stable than GNOME or KDE in my experience.
From most stable to least stable
XFCE > LXDE > MATE > Cinnamon > GNOME > KDE

xfce at least has the option for a menu you can open with the super key.

lxde-core because i'm using linux on vm. if i wasn't i'd use mate-core.

The OP shows it at 800 MB, and Xfce at 450 MB. "Only" is relative to that.

What and where do i need to tick in XFCE to stop tearing?

XFECES is hideous looking. I know you can config it but you shouldn't need to spend 3 days ricing to not have it look like HIV.

I wonder how Budgie on Solus is for RAM usage.

>go to xfce-look
>look around for a handful of themes you like
>download and put them in ~/.themes
>select in the settings

wow
so difficult and time-consuming, truly for ricers only

why should i need to buy an ssd to do the same thing at the same speed as with a hdd?
what's the point in ssd's if you're just going to waste the advantage by running shitty software that makes it feel like a hdd did 15 years ago?

I just upgraded from XFCE to KDE (arch), honestly it feels much better but I can see why some people really have trouble with KDE especially in regard to older distros that have outdated versions of everything.

its 2017 though, what the fuck are you doing where you can't give your DE 1GB of ram to play with, hell even my old laptops from 2010 had 8GB ram

It literally takes a few minutes. If you're a baby you can just install Zorin or Chalet instead of Xubuntu or whatever you tried.

Well, can KDE's WM, whatever it is, be easily replaced?

I like tiling managers and xfce lets me swap xfwm out easy peasy.

What's a minimal non-hideous xfce theme?

>its 2017 though, what the fuck are you doing where you can't give your DE 1GB of ram to play with, hell even my old laptops from 2010 had 8GB ram

It's honestly hard for me to justify upgrading from 4GB because the limitations of my RAM aren't that visible.

For example if a smartphone is running out of memory then tabs will refresh in your browser when you go back to them but I never notice any similar behavior on desktops.

not sure since I haven't tried, just spin up a VM and test it I guess.

Bump.

just set it in xorg or through your graphics driver.

I've heard of multiple people replacing KWin with i3.

xfce

mate

age.....

MATE looks good, but fuck is it unstable

Source?
I use Gnome 3 and it takes 800-900mb ram, KDE 400-450mb, XFCE 200-250mb and Mate 600mb.

> (OP)
>Xfce. Mate is worse in every way.
>>based on GNOME (2)

And may I ask why being based on gnome2 is a bad thing? Gnome2 was the pinnacle of DE's and it's been steady downhill ever since. Mate is comfy and I have it running on 10-15 devices myself.

lxde or similar.

There's not even to question.

LXDE and LightDM.

That's it. Whatever the distro you jerk off to.

Sometimes I wish I never tried KDE. There's some things I really hate, but there are way more things I love about it.

>downhill
>what is KDE

LXQt

>I like tiling managers and xfce lets me swap xfwm out easy peasy.
It does?

Holy shit, I hate the look of everything from xfce, but that's a major selling point to me because I want to use i3.

>DE and WM at the same damn time

that image is giving me something like an aneurism

That will make it 13 anyway, what are they trying to say?

pretty sure they're looking after using a base other than base10
8+5=10 in base13, it's the only way that equation can be correct

this is the state of american education.

>changing bases
>the child doing this homework is barely old enough to write properly

stop trying to rationalize it. this is legitimately what american teachers think is an appropriate math question for young developing minds

i think the correct answer is to do 8 + 5 - 3?
so
Q: 'how do you make 10 when doing 8+5?'
A: 'subtract 3 from the total'

yea, i agree it's a bit of a stretch to switch bases for what looks like 5 year old handwriting

this could also be what they're after, that is "modify the equation so it's correct", though it's not clear that one can modify the equation, it doesn't say "adding something to equation '8+5' so it equals 10"

basically, poorly worded question, even poorer teacher's answer

The idea of common core addition is to make it easier to do in your head (because there is zero value in being able to do it long hand anymore).

The techniques is to make round numbers that are easier to add given the numbers you're adding.

E.g. 132+49 = 130+50+1 = 181

The question sounds really weird when you're not familiar with the terminology and technique though.

that the people staffing our primary schools are more retarded than the kids they are supposed to teach?

Good hardware - GNOME
Poor hardware - MATE

OR

Good hardware - KDE
Poor hardware - Xfce

awesome terminal conf. share?

Guys, this is really a case of cute dragons vs. anything else. The choice has always been clear.

DWM Master race

I don't get what you are trying to show.

I was thinking about changing from Ubuntu Gnome to Ubuntu Mate, because my notebook has only 3GB RAM.
But now I'm using Firefox Nightly and have no more problems with the system becoming super slow. The problem was Chromium/Blink.