If you want help: >Assemble parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >State the budget for your build (and country if not USA) >List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate >Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs? How to assemble a PC, select components & more (outdated) wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC
CPUs: No i5 unless discounted >G4560 - poverty-tier builds >R3 1200 - Budget builds (R5 1400 - If you need multithreading >R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage >R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use, not for just gaming
GPUs: Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser >Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games >GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both >RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz >RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games >GTX 1070 or Vega 56 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high >GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p >GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games >Good fucking luck even getting a VEGA right now
RAM: >Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM >Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM, 3200 MHz is ideal
General: ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS! Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor
I sort of want to build a pc for (1) running MCMC on a graphics card (2) hosting my own shitty website I don't know if (1) is possible and if (2) is a good idea
Isaac Ortiz
Mommy
Andrew Rodriguez
>i7-8700K i7 is a processor series and 8700K is a model designation, right? Should I just compare how many Ghz a processor can perform? Is there a reason I should care about model number?
Joseph Nelson
Any estimations of perfs for covfefe lakes?
Andrew Russell
Kinda meh on the early Z370 boards, which are really just rebadged Z270s, kicked out the door early to respond to Ryzen. The actual new CFL/CNL boards will be Q1 2018, with features like built in 802.11, Bluetooth, SD controllers, etc.
I understand they want CFL out as fast as possible but it makes the lineup a mess.
Logan Powell
>Should I just compare how many Ghz a processor can perform?
With Intel in particular it's important to read into the thermals and the bullshit involved in making their chips function properly. With the i7 7700K they mass-produced a series of chips with the cheapest thermal solution they could manage, so the chips run at like 90* and people have been putting the damn things in vices to pop the covers off and apply better thermal solutions.
It isn't all about the hertz.
Cameron Green
Starting buying parts to my first pc , I have the tower, GPU and I just bought the CPU yesterday from new egg. I just want it for gaming and such. Opinions on it? Ik about coffee lake maybe I shoulda waited for it.
>ugly computer taste next to an uglier woman >hot.jpg shit taste
Christian James
>covfefe >XD
Carter Turner
Shit SSD, get a better one. 850 EVO for example.
Kevin Carter
>ASUS Z270 and I5-7600K with a Zotac GTX 1050Ti or >MSI B250 Mortar and I5-7500 with a ASUS GTX 1060 6GB ?
Its for gaming mostly, the user will be tech illiterate so i doubt he will OC.
Jeremiah Campbell
Humorously, people tried the same shit with Ryzen thinking that delidding was the new KOOL SKOOL MODDING CRAZE. Unfortunately for them, Ryzen is properly soldered for thermal transfer and so delidding them destroys the chip.
Isaac Torres
uwu mr. butthurt amd homo don't you quote me or my posts ever again
Camden Parker
so the 8700k looks to be roughly 20% faster than a 1600 in multi tasking for a whopping 100% more, and it'll still lose to a 1700 in multithreaded workloads for a whole 30% more holy shit what are they doing
Eli Perez
second one then
Liam Howard
and beyond that price wise a i3 now competes with a fucking r5, 6c/12t to 4c/4t, for the same price holy shit boys its fucking happening
Levi Campbell
I don't have many recent AAA titles desu
All games on ultra: Hand of Fate (setting target fps to 120 gave me 165, other options gave me between 60 and 600) Crysis 2 (easily 1000+ fps) Just Cause 2 (don't forget to turn off bullet holes and decals, having them on can crash the game) Skyrim Legendary edition with high res textures and a few mods (59fps was the lowest I ever went, and it was right after starting the game) Honey Select (didn't use an fps counter but it ran great) ADR1FT (iirc I was getting 165fps stable)
On a side note, has anyone ever successfully played EVENT[0] without frame dips? It maxes out all 16 threads and the 1080ti and even when I turn a few settings down it runs at around 80fps with drops. It must be the most unoptimized game ever.
Jaxon Jackson
>Should I just compare how many Ghz a processor can perform? god no, you can't compare performance between CPUs just by numbers or the amount of cores/threads. the only way is to check various benchmarks. if you're looking to buy a cpu and don't know which one to pick just post here.
Christopher Kelly
served me well for some 9 years only having replaced the gpu a single time, but i think its time to move on
rest in pieces sweet prince
Daniel Reyes
>Delidding is basically removing the top of the skull and pouring shit into a computer's brain
Liam Lewis
are you gay
it's not shit, in real world performance you wouldn't even notice a difference between these two, but since the price of 850 evo has dropped, he might as well get it. in some countries samsung drives are seriously overpriced and not worth considering.
neither. ryzen shits on both and costs same as the i5 7500 platform.
wait for benchmarks. don't waste your time speculating.
Kevin Brooks
im not waiting for benchmarks, i already have a 1700 that performs quite well for my use. only upgrade i would consider right now is to threadripper, simply because im running out of lanes
Jaxon Parker
my pc is even shitter and i can't wait to get a new one, though i don't know if that'll happen this year. handles source games fairly well (~50fps with fps configs and minimal settings).
Brandon Sanchez
Damn, a Sapphire HD78XX? You chose well.
Julian Davis
myself i'm waiting for i5 8600k. if it performs better than 7700k while costing less it'll be a nice upgrade from .
Camden Miller
The CPU is severely bottlenecked for gaming.
Cooper Torres
Is overheating still an issue if I won't overclock? >can't compare performance between CPUs just by numbers or the amount of cores/threads. Why not? All I care about is how many simulations I can run at a time and how long they will take. >check various benchmarks What kind of benchmarks should I look at?
Caleb Scott
>Is overheating still an issue if I won't overclock? They run hot even stock. The cooler hardware runs, the longer it lasts.
Jason Perry
it replaced a GTX 360 that fried
have had zero problems with it, and as i recall from when i bought it was reasonably priced too
having to turn down youtube videos down to 480p because 720 lags out the processor and RAM is annoying
the good thing about being a mega jew / poorfag, is when you finally upgrade your shit, you are literally jumping a decade forward in technology
Camden Hall
>Why not? because there are shitloads of factors that have an effect on cpu performance, including the overall architecture which you can't just compare without having an extensive knowledge about cpus in general. >What kind of benchmarks should I look at? depends on your usage. since you mentioned running multiple simulations at the same time, you'd probably benefit from cpu with a high amount of cores/threads. for example: tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-cpu,4951-10.html
Daniel Brown
Dropping at 6PM today boys my site is patch dynamics, jewgle it
Connor Kelly
If I were to have the opportunity to get it for free, is there any reason not to get a fully-equipped Threadripper rig w/ ECC memory?
Christian Morales
What part of >no i5 unless discounted Don't you understand?
Jacob Watson
>having to turn down youtube videos down to 480p because 720 lags out the processor that's weird, my pc is marginally worse but that doesn't happen (unless you mean watching videos while having literally anything else in the background).
Jacob Johnson
720 can work to some extend, by mine chokes on 1080p thats for sure
Landon Wood
>is there any reason not to get a few thousand of $$$ for free? gee user, i dunno
yeah i watch 720p60 since my res is 1280x1024.
Dylan Sullivan
>for free
Owen Bennett
>are you gay yes
Kayden Baker
I've set up some PCPP perameters for a 2560x1440p monitor. Based on the results in the following link, what monitor should I consider? Should I pass on all of them? Ideally, I'd like to get a 1440p IPS monitor with >5ms response time and 75 or 90hz, with solid color representation. I'd like to spend >$250, but I have no problem buying used if it's in good condition.
pop a 771 e5450 in there with a sticker mod. $20 matching 4gb ram kit $10 and the $60 r7 360 of pcpp (in between 1030 and 1050 perf) you could play modern(ish) games on that dino. a 6870 for $30 or less would also do decent at around gt1030 levels but less vram.
Aaron Turner
These things are why I'm so damned itchy. I want to buy now, get in on some Ryzen, but MAYBE Intel will have something? I guess? I'm gonna be mighty disappointed if I buy now and get shafted, but on the other end if I wait until next year for another jizz-lidded fiasco I'm going to lose my shit.
Juan Sanchez
>20% faster >costs twice as much >no stock cooler >more expensive mobos >a housefire
yeah i know about 771 xeons, but i don't feel like it's worth investing any money into it anymore. i've used it for past 8 years, what's another 3-4 months?
intel will be more expensive, that's for sure. you're looking into ~15% more performance for 50% higher price and a worse upgrade path.
>1440p 144Hz G-Sync monitor with GTX 1070 in a PCI-E x4 Slot
How well will this work?
Charles Diaz
And so we have finally reached the final step of the AMD damage control cycle. They now resort to just pointing out that it's cheaper than Intel.
Zachary Gutierrez
You're a faggot.
You're assuming that every build bar the poverty build wants multi threading / mixed usage.
i7 beats 1600 for pure gaming, for instance.
Also: >Good fucking luck even getting a VEGA right now
More like 'who the fuck would even want one unless they're mining, at which point you'd want a 500 series card anyway'.
Speaking of which, the 1000 series cards beat those for gaming too.
What even is this list?
Ryder Bennett
eh... Why though? Why do you have a 1070 in the x4 slot anyway? x16 isn't necessary but at least x8 would be needed.
Zachary White
Thank you both for the information.
Ethan Cooper
would a fucked up GPU cause random restarts/shut downs during normal use? I was in the last thread where I thought it might be a psu issue but I just want to cover my bases before replacing
Zachary Powell
yes and no. Does your PC offer integrated graphics? Try taking your video card out and running off the iGPU to see if the stutter/restarts still occur. Then that would point to your PSU.
What's your build?
Matthew Reyes
It doesn't work in the primary slot. I can only get display in the secondary slot. I will probably RMA the motherboard at some point, but for now I really want that 1440p 144hz.
David Barnes
getting the msi x370 sli plus (120$) for ryzen. is it good or should I go for another board?
Alexander Cox
pcpartpicker.com/list/ccV7VY here last thread someone said it could be an issue with the RAM but I ran some tests and got nothing so I still think it could just be the psu
Noah Johnson
don't forget intel is a housefire. wait for benchmarks and shut the fuck up.
the list has looked like this for months and i can't be bothered to make any edits, since most of people here don't even bother to read it anyway. >i7 beats 1600 for pure gaming only in 1080p, difference being ~15fps. also costs $200 more for the whole platform, which is already dead. if you want intel you should wait for coffee lake. vega 56 outperforms 1070 and i heard it has nice uv&oc capabilites
Connor Ross
you should worry about making sure one of the most important components in your entire build is working properly before buying some ULTIMATE GAYMER ELITE MONITOR NO SCOPE PLACEBO edition.
To answer you question, it will technically work, just not well. You won't be seeing 144FPS in games unless you're playing at much lower settings if you're using x4 pcie speeds. How many RAM slots does that motherboard have? Is it the model with 2 or 4? Is the CPU power a 4 pin or an 8 pin?
Bentley Kelly
2 slots for ram and I'm pretty sure it's 8 pin
Lucas Brown
>you should worry about making sure one of the most important components in your entire build is working properly before buying some ULTIMATE GAYMER ELITE MONITOR NO SCOPE PLACEBO edition.
If you knew how much i've had to do already... I'll just say, fuck Zotac.
Just as long as it can run 1440p at about 60FPS for non-AAA games will be fine for now, I just really need a new monitor.
Jack Nelson
>Newegg email >RX570 and RX580 back in stock! >Click >at mining prices
I would say try another motherboard maybe? Because honestly even if that EVGA PSU was only putting out 150w, a stock Ryzen 1400 and 1050ti barely draw 50w at idle. Hell the 2 together probably only draw around 110w under max load. why is Zotac to blame? I've had plenty of cards from them over the years and honestly, they're on of the better companies. Just get the Motherboard RMA over with. Either that or check to see if your motherboard PCIE settings aren't set to the first slot for some reason.
Nathaniel Campbell
>buy 1050 ti yesterday because tired of waiting for 570 to come down in price >amazon says it will be here on friday >get a email this morning >suddenly goes (((out of stock))) and will be here next week
waiting for things is gonna the death of me
Adrian Flores
did you expect any different? Welcome to capitalism.
Landon Bennett
It feels nice to be wealthy enough to get high end parts and avoid the absolute fuckery going on at lower end.
Aiden Rogers
yes, very
Cameron Lopez
Hey guys quick question. I currently have a 1070 ti, and have been looking to upgrade my cpu. I have a big enough power supply but really sont know the best options for an affordable yet amazing cpu. Ive been running an and 8320 for the past like 3 years and 8gb of ram. Already know what I want dor my ram but having a rough time for my cpu. I so lots of multi tasking and emulation so thst is why I first got my 8320 because it was best at the time. I am open to both amd and Intel and also want good performance outside of emulation and multitasking. Pic is of my cat just 'cause.
Caleb Thompson
Fuck it. Let's get a Sup Forums-brand chip fab plant working. We can make our own CPUs and GPUs. And we can incorporate somewhere immune to copyright law and steal all of Intel and AMD and NVidia's best ideas. And we can set up a 7-story-tall Command & Conquer style superweapon designed to annihilate cryptocurrencies within the course of an hour.
FUCK EM.
Joshua Campbell
is gonna be the death of me, rather
yeah I just gave up desu, maybe prices will fix after the holidays
you lucky bastard
Grayson Perez
ryzen 1600 is what you're looking for. affordable and beats competition. cheap b350 board will be around 70$.
Carter Harris
I just bought all of Africa for $5. I plan to enforce that claim.
I shall build a nation. And it will be the greatest nation on Earth.
Ayden Sanders
Why do people recommend the 1600 when 1500x is 30€ cheaper and is usually better where it matters (single threaded tasks).
Oliver Diaz
Is a 1050Ti a worth while step up from a 750Ti or should I wait.
Isaiah Garcia
>is usually better where it matters (single threaded tasks). wrong
ryzen 5 1600 is only €30 more for additional 2c/4t. you simply cannot beat that value
Christopher Evans
because the 1500X and 1600 are literally the exact same chip except the 1600 has 2 core/4 threads more? That both the 1500x and 1600 cap out at the same clock speed because Ryzen overall OC average is 3.8 to 3.9ghz? Games have already shown to take advantage of more cores lately, so why settle for 4c/8t? If single core is what you're focused on, go buy an i5.
Angel Phillips
price per core pretty much. it's mostly just a suggestion but if you want to save money than by all means get the 1500x or cheaper
Brayden Turner
Hey Patch Dynamics guy, if you're lurking I just bought mine. Got the bubble thing. Can't wait for it to arrive, thanks.
Aiden Evans
it's a good jump.
Sebastian Rivera
Thank you ill look into it.
Nolan Wright
If I plan on streaming games with nvenc, does hyperthreading still make sense? On a older 1155 h61 motherboard considering i5-2500 vs i7-2600 fwiw. ~50 dollars difference, worth it?
Mason Nelson
Would getting a Bristol Ridge apu for my lil bros first pc worth it and then later on pairing it with a gpu? just needs to runs cs go/overwatch
Michael Butler
new 4k60hz video playback gpu is in.
Grayson Richardson
Why not a 580?
Christopher Sanchez
>Why not a 580? Fuck you.
Camden Diaz
You know why you mining fuck.
Parker Collins
>RX 560 Why not get a 1050 ti which is better and a couple bucks more? Unless you have a FreeSync monitor, then I guess it's okay.
James Jackson
because i dont play games on this computer. sold my 470 to my friend. was thinking of getting a 550, but this is better for not much more.
Isaiah Bennett
i have a radeon graphics sticker on my case. i dont want to be a liar
Daniel Thompson
Had to cancel my 1060 3GB because I forgot how shitty shadowplay/nvenc was compared to OBS+VCE. That plus the lack of FreeSync.
Christian Richardson
Ree, sold out. Took a look at your page and you said about making a 10cm version. Could you leave both, a 7 and 10cm version (3" and 4")?
