nth for which ever user took this pic he is the most based mother fucker on this board
Jace Jackson
Best closed headphones for sound stage and separation? Preferably under $300.
Robert Russell
I've been researching that market and I think the NAD VISO HP50(recently price dropped to 150 from 250) and the Meze 99 Neo would be worthy considerations. People say that NAD was trying to make the hp50 sound like "good speakers in a good room". That's all I got.
Benjamin Robinson
>Budget 300 CAD >Location Canada >Source Sony LED TV, Laptop. >Type of headphone Full sized headphones >Open or closed Closed because I don't want noise traveling outside >Comfort level Mega comfy, but I can sacrifice for better sound quality >Past headphones A Sennheiser HD 598 open back headphones
Isaac Lopez
Viso HP50 is still 300 euros here unfortunately. But I'm keeping both of these in mind for sure. I have to say I have never heard of the HP50's before and therefore am a bit skeptical, but I'm definitely keeping them in mind. Thanks user.
Austin Price
What is the closed back equivalent to hd600s
Anthony Jones
what should i get >64audio u6 or u8
Levi Fisher
Idol trash here. What's your setup like, user?
David Scott
Opinions on the hifiman edition s? Is the sound actually good? Are they actually really quiet when you use them 'closed'?
John Carter
Any good RF headphones? I'm using a Sony one that starts to get old and I have a couple of issues with it. Are there even any recommended RF headphones?
Mason Fisher
Like this! Still trying to finish love live Mr idol user. Also going to be buying like every midfi headphone in a month
Xavier Wood
anyone?
Isaiah Robinson
Nothing in your price range is going to be better than the HD598, especially without getting an actual amp.
HD600/HD650 sound like ass connected to laptops and shit. Yes they'll make noise, but an actual amp is needed once you start getting better headphones.
Robert Wright
Is that a taipan mouse? :X I also use a taipan... I hope you're enjoying Love Live :-)
Camden Phillips
It's a death adder. I bought it at Walmart just to test out and return and it rang up as $10 so I bought three. I'm gonna buy a ultrasone hfi780, Visio hp50, ath msr7, and 99 neo and keep the best one. Then a r70x, hd600, and he400i and do the same thing. I won't feel good about my upgrade unless I do so fuck it
Jace Cox
>3x death adder $10 Whoah, that's some crazy good value you got. >list of headphones HD600 is the only one you need :P >cat Adorable.
Elijah Diaz
What do we™ think of ath-msr7?
Evan Gomez
those connectors look stupid, why not opt for MMCX or something as small instead
im still tempted though. Are the hinges/headband the same as the TH-X00 or are they better built? If these go on sale for $1000 or something instead, I think I might drop the cash for it.
Benjamin Walker
>Budget 500 ~ 1,000 USD >Location America >Source PC >Type of headphone Full sized headphones >Open or closed Closed cuz roomies can't appreciate real music >Comfort level Comfy as you can get. Gonna wear 'em for 4-7 hours at a time (about). >Sound signature Neutral and Bass boosted are both fine. >Past headphones HyperX Cloud headphones. I Liked 'em but i haven't had any other high class headphones so i have no frame of reference as to what i might like more. I do appreciate the feature to go from Neutral sound to Bass boosted at the press of a button.
Jose Roberts
What is the second best headphone behind HD600?
Sebastian Evans
Does your budget include a headphone amp/DAC?
At that price range any headphones you'd buy would sound like trash connected directly to your PC, your PC simply doesnt expect high end headphones and can't output enough power.
Josiah Adams
>hair
Gavin Turner
Hmm. Makes sense. Sounds like a whole 'nother can of worms spending money on an amp and DAC but sounds worth it in the end. I'd have to research those too but i'd prolly increase my budget to 1,500 USD to get a decent set up.
Gavin Gutierrez
Are the V-moda Crossfire 2 really worth the money? I just want a decent, durable pair of Bluetooth headphones without things like noise cancelation or gimmicks like capacitive controls
Parker Perez
With $1500 you can get most of an end-game setup.
Look at HD800, Audeze LCD-2, Mr. speakers, etc.
Sadly at your price point you'll really want to try and test some of the headphones out before buying so i'd look around for audio show rooms.
James Flores
Mrspeakers Aeon.
Jace Jenkins
>Budget Location America >Source Magni 2 >Type of headphone Over Ear >Open or closed Open >Comfort level mid to high >Sound signature Neutral >Past headphones Rocking the Fostex T50RP right now. Also have the HIFIMan HE350
Lincoln Lopez
I should add I pretty much only listen to jazz so I want something with great detail.
Bentley Kelly
there's a fucking hair there wtf
Anthony Jones
>not keeping a sample of your DNA in contact with Maki-chan at all times
Camden Myers
> 600s/650s > having bass
Justin Hughes
>not ensuring you have a proper seal before running measurements
Michael Reed
HD600, obviously.
Gavin Brown
>rtings
Jonathan Jenkins
>Budget Location US >Source cellphone bluetooth >Type of headphone something wireless >Open or closed doesnt matter much, pref closed >Comfort level mid to high >Sound signature n/a >Past headphones nothing special
I run a lot. I like to listen to audiobooks and sometimes music from my cellphone, but the wires bouncing around always creates a thumping noise that drowns out the sound. Any suggestions?
Airpods look ok except A) easily lost, maybe fall out of ear? B) I don't have any other apple products C) it's an apple product, so i'm assuming overpriced for the specs.
Ryder Torres
What's the best under 250 euros for trap/rap/pop? Momentum 2?
Ryan Reyes
If you want Bluetooth, csg is a good place to ask. Lots of good chink shit Bluetooth over the ear and in the ear options. Bluedio is a chinese brand that has a pretty good track record. I have the T2s Turbines, would not recommend sound like dogshit and not the most comfortable. I've been told their other stuff is better, though. Ask around in csg for people who have actually bought them though and make sure you don't buy knock-offs. If you want something non-chink then I suggest the Sony XB950BT EXTRA BASS™ Wireless Headphones. Maximum comfy and good sound quality for Bluetooth. I don't own a pair, but I've borrowed them from a friend before and I liked them a lot. sony.com/electronics/headband-headphones/mdr-xb950bt
Jason Myers
Sennheiser HD600
Dylan Richardson
That AMP probably can't power those cans
Lincoln Smith
> that video > 4:43
Where can I get those microphones s and how many organs do I have to sell?
Gabriel Gutierrez
>blocked ear canal mics Not even that useful. rtings is retarded for using them for their measurements. etymotic.com/auditory-research/microphones/er-7c.html would be far more useful, as it measures at the eardrum.
Hunter Diaz
AKG K712, they have a bit more high end than the HD600 which would be better suited for jazz
Ayden Green
That amp puts out 1w at 32ohm I doubt they will be starved of power
Xavier Jones
They also measure like a rollercoaster
Noah Sanchez
K712 sound like fried chicken and watermelon, Davarius.
Leo Clark
>AKG K712 He said neutral, not melanin-enhanced bass.
William Morris
In defense of the k712 they do bass extremely well for open backs. I'm talking about amazing audible extension all the way to 20Hz.
Everything else is shit but after selling them and than buying the 650s I really miss the bass.
Ryder Howard
hd600
Josiah Baker
I'm actually interested in our™ thoughts on that, too.
Dominic Sanchez
>prolly increase my budget to 1,500 USD to get a decent set up. Christ. Fulla 2 is probably all you need. If not enough, throw in a magni2 and done.
Christopher Evans
You've pretty much given the template for a HD600 answer. k712 is anything but neutral. And too much of a rollercoaster @ mids. HD600 is a night&day improvement over that.
Jaxon Allen
> spending money on DACs
Retarded. Something like the E10K or the Fulla 2 already offer fantastic DACs that even though they aren't mathematically end game the human ear is complete shit so in reality there's literally no difference between a 100€ DAC or a 1000€ one
Amps are something else but still an O2 or a Magni 2 is just enough unless you're trying to power the least efficient headphones in the world (600omh AKGs)
Hunter Ramirez
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PREAMP AND AN AMP??
I have googled this shit quite a bit and no one give a good simple answer in layman's terms. What's the difference?
Jacob Hughes
Any opinions or experiences with the OPPO PM-3 and/or the NAD Viso HP50's? I'm looking for closed cans that sound as open/wide as they possibly can being closed. Do these produce audio representative for the price? Are the HP50's more than a gimmick?
Charles Brown
Pretty sure the pre amp is what you use to change the volume using the potentiometer - that thing you turn around on the amp
Someone correct me if i'm wrong but be gentle
Hudson Martin
What's the next step up from the HD600's if I were able to increase my budget.
Ian Wright
>hat sound as open/wide as they possibly can being closed Don't the HP50 sound really close? They're very warm and bassy with rolled off treble.
Lucas Turner
Maybe it's just marketing talk but the HP50's are supposed to sound 'like you're listening to speakers in a room'.
Henry Murphy
Audeze LCD-2 maybe but they're a bit too dark HE560 also but the treble is slighly aggressive
Carson Collins
My Modi Multibit shits all over my Fulla 2 DAC when ABing
Kayden Martinez
>The loudness war is a me...
Logan Campbell
Yea i've read that too but I own a pair of hd650 and they don't sound nowhere near as open as something cold like the K702s which are ptty treble heavy
Colton Gomez
I find this hard to believe, have you done the test blind?
Benjamin Richardson
Right, but without listening to them it sounds like a bit of a gimmick. You know those stupid sound effects you can throw over your audio? Like a virtual environment that distorts the shit out of all your music. I'm just afraid they put that in a set of headphones.
Xavier Hall
>I'm just afraid they put that in a set of headphones. They didn't. Tyll liked them a lot
That's a hard one. There's options, but none is a 100% upgrade on the HD600. There's always tradeoffs. HD600's recommended a lot because it's so well balanced. Not just the FR being very neutral, but how it does everything well and nothing badly, and how it doesn't need EQ. As an example, HD800 is an improvement in comfort and potentially sound, but costs way more and does need EQ. There's options that will give you more bass, like the planars suggested, but have less flat midrange (which is the most important), are sibilant or cost 3x times at much.
Carson Walker
Yes
Caleb Ortiz
I want one
Jacob Flores
Doesn't even have a laser
Ayden Miller
Audiophile stereo sound. What more could you possibly ask for?
Dominic Anderson
>Digital Ready
Jordan Adams
If there's two headphones, and one is digital-ready while the other isn't... which one would you get? Assuming you're the average consumer, that is, a pleb.
Nolan Thomas
There's not such thing as digital audio memeboi, at the end you will always need a DAC.
Any good open headphones around the price of the SR60e? Or should I just get one of those?
Ryder Sullivan
It's possible just not practical
Gabriel Evans
SHP9500S sound better and are far more comfortable. Same goes for HD558.
Wyatt Robinson
thanks bud!
Kevin Murphy
Quick question, I have an old NAD 3020a which I use to drive my speakers. Now I'm more than happy with the MDR-V6 I have, But would this amp power higher end phones like the HD600 if I wanted to go that way sometime?
Austin Thompson
For some odd reason, those are more expensive than the Grados in my country. Got anything else to recommend?
Jackson Perez
I'd recommend saving more money. On-ear headphones like the Grados are very far from optimal for long-term comfort.
Tyler Rodriguez
It will work fine
Landon Walker
Gotcha. What do you recommend though? I just need something to complement my ATH-M40x in terms of price
Oliver Turner
SHP9500S and HD558 are the only
Nolan Miller
NFB-11 - I switch between X2 and M1060 depending on genre.
Honestly though, I spend more time listening to my speakers.
JBL LSR305 + Klipsch R-110SW on my desktop, Pioneer BS22 in the bedroom.
LSR305s are fucking good for the price, the other two were just good deals, but not necessarily strong recommendations for others.
Next audio purchase is probably going to be sub. The current sub's ported, I want to try a sealed one that offers good response on low frequencies. Thinking about a Rhythmik L12 sub - rythmikaudio.com/L12.html
Joshua Hughes
>LSR305 Once I manage to move to a different location (I don't want to drag speakers around if possible), I plan to get a couple of these and just attach them to my magni2u preamp outs.
Adrian Evans
Is the K712 worth it over the K7XX? Haven't tried AKG yet.
Jaxson Lopez
What am I looking at?
Ian Turner
This is why i'm keeping my K712 and also ordered the Massdrop HD6xx in july for delivery sometime around Christmas.
Now i have both
Benjamin Brooks
They're good shit, and that'll work. You'll have to unplug the headphones to switch to the pre-amp outs.
I will warn you, some people have ground hum or computer interference problems when using non-balanced lines. It went away for me when I plugged the speakers, DAC/pre-amp and computer into the same power bar.
Nathan Gomez
Both are extremely melanin-enhanced in the bass region. I can't recommend either one.
Julian Sullivan
i'd personally avoid massdrop-branded headphones myself entirely because of aesthetic, bang for buck aside.
i'd also avoid AKG nowadays since their Austrian HQ closed down this year. I don't even know if the newer AKG K712 are made in Slovakia or China (definitely not Austria either way).
Oliver Morgan
>in july for delivery sometime around Christmas. Jesus christ
Landon Hughes
Preamp normally refers to vinyl. Signal from cartridge is very low level and requires very large amount of amplification. Also applies RIAA compensation, but that can be done at any portion of the playback chain.
No, using probe mics is being silly. Rtings uses the blocked canal mic in a limited sense. At low frequencies, it produces simple and repeatable results.
>step up What are you looking for? >no correlation... That doesn't mean there isn't one that can be better. It just means that audio products are a roulette, with no way to anticipate the response based on price alone.
Carter Kelly
until you start eqing and then you're shit out of luck
Jonathan James
I got my K712's 3 years ago on massdrop for $320 with shipping. They're austria. But this was before they started doing massdrop branded stuff.
Yup, but i've got K712 to last me until then so not like i'm hurting particularly.
Blake Mitchell
Thanks user Nope, works fine. Never even had to use high gain.
Kevin Thomas
How did you last 3 years? The 712s have probably caused irreversible ear damange