>killed all extensions that gave it more customization options/made it unique (Classic Theme Restorer, Tab Scroll Wheel, Tab Mix Plus, etc.)
>still does not feel any faster than chrome (probs still a bit slower)
>looks even more like a chrome clone than ever.
Does anybody habe a good reason to stick with FF after 57 without referring to memes like "HURR GOOGLE BOTNET"?
I couldn't find one and switched to Vivaldi which is a fucking great browser.
RIP IN PISS OLD FRIEND
i prefer it's UI to chrome's
Take a look at Vivaldi. It's actually fucking sexy.
>without referring to memes like "HURR GOOGLE BOTNET"
>The intentions of the people who creates the program doesn't matter.
As long the software is created by humans and not by completely unbiased machines i think it matters. Also nightly feels as fast or more than chrome for me but if it's not your case i respect that.
>Vivaldi
>inb4 botnet
ROFL
nice shilling kike
Feel free to give me some examples of the Vivaldi botnet.
Here's the source code:
vivaldi.com
Otherwise STFU, this board is 18+, kid.
but its not free software
Mobile Firefox has extensions, mobile Chrome doesn't.
Mozilla somehow managed to create the worst performing browser on Android. Scrolling fells sluggish compared to any other Browser I've tested.
Mobile: Brave
Desktop: Vivaldi
That's the GOAT combination, trust me on this.
>Vivaldi
Literally 100% cpu usage opening simple pages like ghacks
How much you paid for it? Why can i see the source?
Brave doesn't block all ads and doesn't have configurable filter lists like uBlock origin
I just started using Iridium last night. If you hate Chrome, you won't like it, but I needed a bit less Jew in my browsing, and it feels exactly the same.
Root your phone and use AdAway. Didn't see any ads in ages.
Also this thread was more about the Desktop since Firefox on mobile is even more of a niche than on Desktop.
>but its not free software
fuck off stallman
(((You)))
extensions.legacy.enabled = true
>i prefer it is UI
Kys.
You need to go back.
This wont work for very long. Probably not even for 57 stable.
Use ESR for now.
There's always palemoon. I miss firefox being good.
At the very least you can customize the UI with CSS. It's literally the only thing keeping me from moving to another browser.
I switched to it recently and found all my extensions work... Also feels on-par with Chrome.
kys
Then why am I using it right now without having paid a single cent?
>vivaldi
>brave
enjoy being openly tracked kike faggot
Everybody uses Brave nowadays anyway.
Firefox performance in hardcore demanding websites (tumblr porn archives / tumblr "See More" bloat) is vastly superior to Chromes.
I primarily consume porn on tumblrs so it counts.
>enjoy being openly tracked kike faggot
He says, owning a cell phone. There's no such thing as privacy anymore.
The price you pay doesn't always come from your wallet. If you honestly haven't figured that out by now, then what the fuck are you doing here?
firefox was never good it was just better than all the alternatives
I haven't seen any mainstream alternatives that are better. Just FF forks that would likely die or become obsolete if not for the team working on FF.
Waterfox user, btw.
techno communists are the worst
tell the slow-ass extension developers to update their extensions or contribute more extension APIs to firefox if you want them to keep working
I read into it. They're planning on using zero-knowledge proofs which are pretty damn snazzy for retaining privacy.
Most of them straight from firefox addons page, others that showed being outdated - I've simply googled source code and took the latest build most of them had an update within last 5 - 10 days.
I need NoScript, Decentraleyes, DotVPN, DNSSEC/TLSA Validator, Flash Control (controls HTML5, too), and Random Agent Spoofer before I can jump ship.
Some of these, like NoScript and Decentraleyes will be updated soon. Others, like Flash Control, and maybe even Random Agent Spoofer (it has a lot of other options) likely have an extension equivalent. But I can't budge on DotVPN (paying member) or the DNSSEC/TLSA Validator. I'm using Waterfox until the stuff I need is completed.
Just use uMatrix instead of NoScript.
Decentraleyes work fine with 57
github.com
I just did not want that botnet on my browser...
I think it feels on par with Chrome.
Both of them are slow with Ghostery with 16gb of ram and a 7700k for some reason.
How is decentraleyes botnet? It literally blocks CDNs from google, facebook, and MS, and instead load it locally.
I'm not attacking your qualification of Decentraleyes, more asking for your reasoning.
vivaldi.com
owo what's this?
>chrome
Chrome's UI is shit. Also it's hard as fuck to configure. And don't have some important for me extensions. Well fuck my life I guess.
I said free, not open source
>Ghostery
it's botnet, stop using it. use uBlock Origin instead.
I agree on all points except the extensions part, considering WebExt. But yeah, Chrome has a retarded inflexible UI compared to Firefox. It's a shame Firefox for Android is so slow because it's the best browser apart from that.
>looks even more like a chrome clone than ever.
What ? It looks nothing like a chrome clone.
FF 56 forever
part of the blink source, not the whole vivaldi
>Classic Theme Restorer, Tab Scroll Wheel, Tab Mix Plus
I have been using firefox since firefox 3.X, NEVER used any of those autistic add-ons
>NoScript,
Ported
>Decentraleyes,
Ported
>DotVPN,
Don't know about that use a router level VPN
>DNSSEC/TLSA Validator,
Similar extensions available
>Flash Control (controls HTML5, too),
What does it "control"?
>and Random Agent Spoofer
before I can jump ship.
Ported
Tampermonkey closed its source a few releases ago and is now deprecated proprietary software.
Switch to violentmonkey
It's just some fucking retard who's been spouting that bullshit since last week, don't listen to him.
Decentraleyes just downloads the libraries to your browser and then uses them instead of downloading them every time from CDNs.
FF28 forever.
That's weird. The more you scroll down on a Facebook feed (a hardcore demanding website), the slower Firefox gets. 57 seems to be better, though.
I have only been using it for the occasional flash got rip and on my phone where it still crashes on xvideos if I leave to many tabs open despite not running out of ram since my phone has 3gb
But it's the only mobile browser I know that has good plugin support
Random Agent Spoofer doesn't work anyway, outdated user agents (last updated 2016). All script injection features can be replicated without it.
>he switched to vivaldi only now
I switched to it 1 year ago, I am superior to you, faggot
Switching to vilvaldi is like switching to Opera
you're just a hipster with a weird browser and barely any benefits
>firefox is turning into chrome, might as well use chrome
this argument makes no sense. if they're becoming the same, why bother switching instead of staying where you are? are you even actually using firefox or is this whole thread fabricated?
firefox is free software. chrome is not. it's that simple.
open source isn't good enough. vivaldi is non-free
firefox nightly on android actually runs better than any other browser I've tried
cost is irrelevant, source is only one of the four freedoms. get off Sup Forums until you know what you're talking about
It feels as fast as chrome. Looks don't matter. It's still a more customizable browser.
Also pic related. Have fun chrome locking you down, tracking your every step and pushing ads every way possible without you being able to block them properly.
>Does anybody habe a good reason to stick with FF after 57 without referring to memes like "HURR GOOGLE BOTNET"?
I choose any of FFs shit over chromes/chromiums "OW LE SNAP :^)"
>update to 55
>all tabs randomly crash and go blank every 15 mins
>have to restart the entire instance to make it work
quality 2bh
same
ur dumb
>57+ were all about speed now
Mozilla are retarded. Every normie who just cared about speed left years ago. I highly doubt they'll come back now. Everybody who loved Firefox for the customization gets the finger. Also, just because you can port over Chrome extension doesn't meant that the'll be maintained. FF probably ends up with outdated Chrome Extensions. Not a good feature tbqh.
anyone who is still a firefox user in 2017 is so dumb, they will stay with it forever for their own delusional reasons
i literally switched to google chrome on the FIRST. DAY. of Chrome's release and never looked back again. Literally. I opened firefox again the 2nd day to see how it felt and immediately closed it again.
It was that obvious in 2008, imagine how stupid you have to be to stay with an objectively worse browser for 9 years.
9 years.
They all will have to accept that Firefox is dying eventually.
>Does anybody habe a good reason to stick with FF after 57 without referring to memes like "HURR GOOGLE BOTNET"?
- new extension api is still more powerful than chrome's
- it's marginally slower than chrome but still very fast, and it's going to get even faster. project quantum is far from done
- ui looks better than chrome's and you can customize it however you want through userChrome.css
- feature customizability thorugh about:config blows chrome out of the water
- even if all of the above were false, it's still important that we have competition among browsers because users always use where there are monopolies
this is the problem with the firefox users, they are exactly the same delusional group that buys into linux.
enjoy your 4% marketshare, seriously. That's about the share of people who are dumb enough to fall for empty promises and worse UX
nice argument
Enjoy being used as a fucking cow for data. Just look into that source you're providing
Nigga u dumb as fuck
Because when Internet Explorer had a massive monopoly in the past that worked out so well.
Firefox nightly isn't bad.
Does webextensions API allow customizing UI? Will we ever get alternative to classic theme restorer and tabs on bottom?
>disconnect
nice botnet, also open with has a webext ver
sadly it needs some fucking node local client
ironically webextensions remove the ability for custom new tab page addons to allow local html files to be used
It did until it didn't. IE 6 was good when it came out, 5.5 on Mac was even better. Then they got complacent.
Still, Google is more of a threat now than MS was then, they're a company with political influence somewhere in between Canada and the EU, without so much as a constitution
This thread:
Google : botnet
Vivaldi: botnet
Brave: botnet
Decentraleyes: botnet
Ghostery: botnet
disconnect: botnet
Basically everything: botnet
That shows how much one should care about the opinion of paranoid freetards. They probably want people to use text based browsers like Lynx...
4 of those are actual botnets though
Lynx is a botnet.
>Ghostery: botnet
yeah no shit lifehacker.com.au
Neither is Firefox. It's not free, only open-source, so what's your point?
But Google, Brave and ghostery ARE botnets. How misinformed are you?
You know that you can turn off all ads in Brave, right?
>you have to disable ads in your browser
what a time to be alive
The browser itself has no ads, you can exchange web ads with their "acceptable" ads or completely block all ads. This feature is enough to call the browser a botnet...
That doesn't change the fact it's a botnet. It actively builds an ad profile of the user so it's not any better than Google Chrome.
turn it off than, literally one mouse click.
Fuck them to try to make some money on their own and not being dependent on Google like every one else including Mozilla amiright?
>turn it off then
You can't, user.
You can. I'm using brave on my phone. It's pretty comfy.
You can edit the UI with userchrome.css
some extensions won't work on palemoon too much different.
does waterfox compatible with ff extensions?
you can replace with umatrix, umatrix has ability to spoof browser agent.
adnauseum when?