Is it as bad as Sup Forums says it is? What distro do you guys use?

is it as bad as Sup Forums says it is? What distro do you guys use?

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Yes, Slackware

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Here come systemd shills.
Just you wait op

Well, I like to think of it as a ticking time bomb.
I use Arch.

Here come the anti-systemd shills.
Just you wait op

All I know is that systemd is strange to me, but it is also large and I had pulseaudio break after an update. Had to do with the way systemd assigns permission to users or something.

I use Void Linux because it is a simple distribution that just works.

It's not that bad, but it's developed by an incompetent retard that unironically gets defensive about new entries in issue tracker and prioritizes QR-code generators over critical bugs in system software.

i don't like systemd. it's confusing to me and unnecessarily complex. especially trying to figure out why something is broken. which is frequent. supposedly it's good for sysadmins running 100s of VMs in a datacenter or something. or maybe i'm not understanding the benefits.
but me, i'm ok with classic init.

It's perfectly fine.

Slackware, I find it great that the computer is actually quiet after using arch linux and void linux where the fan was always on

Is it? Isn't it open source?

Yes it's open source. No one can point to the line of code that is "botnet" because it doesn't exist.

It's so bloated it's impossible to audit unlike other inits

600,000 LINES OF LOW LEVEL UNAUDITED C CODE

>muh 300k lines of code
Quit being a lazy faggot, either show the code that is "botnet" or shut the fuck up
If Stallman has no issue with it, then it can't be a botnet

Stallman does have issues with it...

Google DNS? Check

Undisclosed botnetted features? Check

Shitty Devs? NSA-aware project? A shilled everywhere project? Poettering a fag?

Ask yourself these questions...

Stallman is only satisfied with systemd because it is free software, he's talking about the ethics of it not if it's good or not

at least the log isn't in german

It's stupid but it's not worth dumping a distro over

Wait, there's no way it uses Google for DNS.

And I'm satisfied with that. If it's open source and free then I'm sure they aren't trying to sneak in the "botnet"

It silently fallbacks to Google DNS. You might be using Google's datamining DNS for months without knowing

Nice source faggot.

He said, "I know it’s free software, so ethically speaking, it’s not an issue – it’s just a convenience question."

networkworld.com/article/2900305/opensource-subnet/stallman-joins-the-internet-talks-net-neutrality-patents-and-more.html

But that's primarily what I care about, is it ethical. Beyond that I don't particularly give a fuck. It's fast on my machine and just werks.

>Google DNS
FAKE NEWS

>Undisclosed botnetted features
FAKE NEWS

>Shitty Devs
FAKE NEWS

>NSA-aware project
FAKE NEWS

>A shilled everywhere project
The only shills are the anti systemd neckbeard virgin losers who live in their mom's basement

C'mon lennart, you can do better than this

Imagine how many bugs could be fixed if the time spent shilling were instead used more productively

ubuntu 14.04 have it, but still using upstart as the init. Why?

can someone describe, succinctly, in plain English why systemd is absolutely necessary?

Gentoo, Void or Slackware?

Please no memes.

systemd-resolved uses google as a fallback, assuing you've manually enabled it and it can't find an alternative. It isn't enabled by default on anything as far as I'm aware and if you're behind a nat it wouldn't use google anyway. There's probably not a single person using the fallback dns that isn't 100% aware of it.

Simpleton daemon io and management.

Also, which has the most documentation?

Systemd has been in the repository for ubuntu since 13.04, it wasn't enabled by default until 15.04

>Gentoo, Void or Slackware?
>Please no memes.
That's pretty hard. :^)
>Also, which has the most documentation?
Gentoo has until they fucked up. They are still ok, but slackware is good too. I don't really know void. Only tried once, but if you like the arch way, you will be good with it.

Its literal Linux cancer OP. I use gentoo.

Gentoo has the most documentation although it also requires the most tinkering, and also has the steepest learning curve. With Void you pretty much get by by reading the package manager's man page etc

It's literally installed and running from the start, not just in the repo.

It wasn't running by default in ubuntu 14.04

No, it's not.
Fedora, CentOS and Gentoo (with systemd).

>Google DNS? Check
This was changed on recent versions of Ubuntu, not sure about other distros. If it's a concern simply modify /etc/systemd/resolved.conf with a different fallback, like this one
bjornjohansen.no/dns-privacy
Literally 2 second fix

>Undisclosed botnetted features? Check
Source?

>Shitty Devs? NSA-aware project? A shilled everywhere project? Poettering a fag?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

>Ask yourself these questions...
I did, and I determined that you're a shilling faggot, the very thing you criticize others of doing.

>2019
>systemd by default broadcasts passwords in cleartext over the network
>"If it's a concern simply disconnect the network cable! Literally 2 second fix"

Epic comeback dude, you must be really smart

b-but faggot OS, my fav linux distro with a gay bear as logo, adopted sytemd so I MUST BE GOOD for me, the customer of a shilling enterprise

back 2 /lgbt (((YOU))) go

Thanks user

>b-but faggot OS, my fav linux distro with a gay bear as logo, adopted sytemd so I MUST BE GOOD for me, the customer of a shilling enterprise
>
>back 2 /lgbt (((YOU))) go
Not him, but I really have to ask: how's living with brain damage?

Just imagine how many bugs could be fixed if the time spent shilling were instead used more productively, Poettering.

>people unironically believe Lennart browses Sup Forums

This is the only /lgbt/ I care about
I bet all the little faggots in this thread crying over "muh systemd botnet" are literally getting RAPED by the Intel ME/AMD PSP in their (((proprietary BIOS))) every single day; but no, instead of fixing that GLARING security hole literally sponsored by the NSA, they're going to cry like whiny bitches over a DNS fallback. Enjoy your botnet, all of you. Fuck off and go to hell.

>people unironically believe Lennart

No

Ubuntu, CentOS and Fedora

"Reached target Shutdown"

Teги:DNS Linux Systemd Hoвocти Уязвимocти. 3 кoммeнтapия к зaпиcи Уязвимocть в systemd пpeдcтaвляeт oпacнocть для мнoгих диcтpибyтивoв Linux.

Created symlink /run/systemd/system/-.mount → /dev/null.
Created symlink /run/systemd/system/boot.mount → /dev/null.
Created symlink /run/systemd/system/home.mount → /dev/null.
Created symlink /run/systemd/system/opt.mount → /dev/null.
Created symlink /run/systemd/system/run-user-1000.mount → /dev/null.
Created symlink /run/systemd/system/run-user-21.mount → /dev/null.
Created symlink /run/systemd/system/tmp-xdg\x2dcjg-gvfs.mount →
/dev/null.
Created symlink /run/systemd/system/tmp.mount → /dev/null.
Created symlink /run/systemd/system/var-lib-machines.mount → /dev/null.
Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
(gpartedbin:18772): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
Removed /run/systemd/system/-.mount.
Removed /run/systemd/system/boot.mount.
Removed /run/systemd/system/home.mount.
Removed /run/systemd/system/opt.mount.
Removed /run/systemd/system/run-user-1000.mount.
Removed /run/systemd/system/run-user-21.mount.
Removed /run/systemd/system/tmp-xdg\x2dcjg-gvfs.mount.
Removed /run/systemd/system/tmp.mount.
Removed /run/systemd/system/var-lib-machines.mount.

>people unironically believe Sup Forums

It's insecure by design, has had many backdoors and is under constant revision so more are being inserted all the time.

It's not reliable, is more bloated than all of Linux + the GNU userland + GCC + Emacs combined circa a few years ago.

The developer is an actual East German communist who works for a company in bed with multiple alphabet agencies who are working to destroy the privacy of every person on earth.

If you use systemd, you're a retard. The fact that they have to shill against it all the time is bad enough, but the shills responses indicate that they don't have anything positive to say about systemd themselves. They constantly mischaracterize the valid criticisms of systemd and them huffily say "WELL BUILD YOUR OWN INIT THEN" as if there aren't already many different, mature, stable, and much smaller competitors.

All in all, it's obvious to even the most casual observer that this software has no technical merits.

The had to kill the Debian founder to get it into that distro.

Yes, you're retarded. I were asking how's living with brain damage...
w/e, never mind.

600000 lines of C code and rapidly rising
>b-but why would the US deep st.. I mean Red Hat add bugs? S-shut up!
>l-look, Stallman said that he, in principle, has no problem with the project so everything is totally fine!
the absolute state of Red Hat shills (useful idiots)

amazon.com/Savaged-Systemd-Erotic-Unix-Encounter-ebook/dp/B075DYXZW1

Enjoy getting raped by your proprietary BIOS faggot. That's where the real deep state bugs are.

How about root access if you create a username with a number as the first character?

There have been countless backdoors like this which have already been exposed. Are you telling us you want us to point out existing, undiscovered ones?

No, no. Those are sold on the darknet to the Russian mafia.

>here's one steaming pile of shit
>so you should eat it because there exists another steaming pile of shit
you sound like a mental midget, your pilpul sucks

You mean the bug that has already been fixed? W-wow user, there has never been a bug in the history of computing until systemd. T-thanks for telling me.

Sound like you're the one doing mental gymnastics user. Why haven't you gotten a computer with libreboot? Why do you enjoy being cucked by a proprietary BIOS?

ITT: People supporting systemd

ITT: People who like to gargle cum

PROTIP: They are the same people.

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ITT: People who use proprietary BIOS

ITT: People who like to gargle cum

PROTIP: They are the same people.

ftfy

...

systemd devellopers. also post rare lennarts

It was only fixed because it became a large tech story. Poetterings initial reaction was to close and label as not a bug because he thought you shouldn't be able to make users starting with a number.

github.com/systemd/systemd/issues?q=is:issue is:closed label:not-a-bug
A reel goldmine

>the bug that has already been fixed
New bugs like this pop up all the time and Lennart is busy creating even more ridiculous back doors.

You asked for people to point out the back door in the code, and they did.

The point is, new bugs are sold to the Russian mafia, they aren't disclosed to Lennart so he can file them as 'not a bug.' Maybe the NSA hast to pay more than the Russians for the backdoors?

>mental gymnastics
Libreboot is coded by a mind controlled tranny, there's no excuse for using it. Pre-ME era hardware only.

He claimed he 'coundle' even figure out how' that could be done. The little communist nigger doesn't even know useradd or how to edit the passwd file directly.

Since you systemd shills are here, I've got a question. Using the latest RHEL 7 distro...

How do I get a fucking system shutdown script to work in systemd?

I've put my script in /etc/init.d/ and I've added it to chkconfig with runtime 01.

What do?

Don't forget that this pile of unaudited C code runs as PID 1! Meaning it runs as root and if it crashes it brings down the entire system!

Sauce on tranny? Does she do porn? Asking 4a friends

Practically everyone uses systemd on Linux, Gentoo has like 100 users these days.

Gentoo is tiresome
Void is a meme
Slackware is ancient
Just use a good modern distro with systemd and stop giving a fuck about what weirdos from Sup Forums are saying.

People are sick of it and removing it in droves. Other distros are forking to get rid of it.

It's just no good on small hardware, either - it absolutely rapes devices like CHIP and the RPi. Embedded Linux is going to suffer badly because of these technologies, and they're moving more and more useless shit into the kernel every day.

Systemd does nothing that daemontools didn't do a decade or more ago.

>Libreboot is coded by a mind controlled tranny, there's no excuse for using it. Pre-ME era hardware only.
Nice red herring there. That has no bearing on the project you gigantic faggot. Enjoy your shitty Pentium 4

>People are sick of it and removing it in droves. Other distros are forking to get rid of it.
citation needed, faggot

Reddit just called, they are asking if you can come back.

Gentoo m8. I came from Arch, others are obscure.

>People are sick of it and removing it in droves. Other distros are forking to get rid of it.

LOL, every large to medium distro defaults to systemd, and I don't even like it, but let's not be fucking retards here.

Anyway, eventually something better will come along a replace it, the warts are already showing and it's not as if the team behind systemd is loved even by those who swear by it.

Going back to hacky bashscripts is not going to happen though, that ship has sailed.

Epic comeback dude, you must be really smart

>Slackware is ancient
does this even matter since it still gets updated frequently and is stable?

Devuan

>Slackware is ancient
Packages under stable are relatively recent and current is all up to date

Well, if KDE4 is still a hot new thing for you than everything is ok.
There is some AlienBob build with KDE Plasma though.

It's not. The only problems it "solves" (simpler service definitions, service management, and parallel service startup) had already been solved by things like OpenRC and runit, and had even been hacked into sysvinit in some cases. The only reason you might find youself needing it now is if some software has a hard dependency on it for no apparent reason (like gnome).

Depends on what you want. Gentoo and Slackware are both well established distros while void is relatively new. Gentoo offers tons of configurability through USE flags and other portage configs so if you want your system to be exactly a certain way it might be for you. Void is very minimal but it has an ncurses installer which makes installing easier and it has a fast binary package manager. Slackware is very old school in many ways and you may have to resolve dependencies yourself. Slackware does have an installer though unlike gentoo. Gentoo and void are both community run, although gentoo has a properly defined governance structure while void is just a group of people. Slackware is run by one guy who has final say. It's up to you to take these factors into account and choose what you want.

Install Gentoo.

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>is it as bad as Sup Forums says it is?
It's fucking worse. MUCH WORSE!

>To exploit the issue, an attacker would have to convince an administrator - someone who already has root access - to install a unit file with an invalid username.
Whew lad, is this the best the anti-systemd virgin neckbeard shills who live in their mom's basement can come up with?

as if most sysadmins know that filenames with a starting number give you root access under systemd based distros. kek
stay clueless and suck on that SJW's tiny kraut dick.

For how many lines of code it has, it really doesn't make anything easier from the user perspective. Its bloated as shit and difficult to figure out how to do simple things with, like figure out why a service failed, or see which services are installed or running. Using something like openrc, someone unfamiliar can pick up the basics pretty quickly. With systemd anything other than starting and stopping services just seems overly complicated and inconsistent to me.

This guy is so fucking stubborn. He takes every bug report as some kind of personal attack. He'll take that "not-a-bug" label with him to the grave.

>stay clueless and suck on that SJW's tiny kraut dick
plz go back to Sup Forums

he's a fucking idiot. total moron.
fuck off back to /lgbt/ or whatever leftist shithole you came from. Sup Forums is not for you.

Excuse me, but are you referring to /lgbt/ Libreboot is the Greatest BIOS Thread?