Why did we let the monitor industry go backwards?

Why did we let the monitor industry go backwards?

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its the cia

>muh size
>muh power consumption
I love my CRT.

>Comparing TFT to a CRT

normalfags ruin everything

HURP DURP, ZOMG A SHITTY 4:3 DELL MONITOR FROM 2004 LOOKS WORSE THAN MUH CRT, Y MONITOR INDUSTRY GO BACK?!

CRTs are great, but modern IPS panels are superior.
Obviously your 2005 LCD panel is shit compared to a CRT.

Also, I don't think smartphones and laptops with CRTs would be that handy. Not to mention how a 50" CRT TV would look on my wall.

IPS has worse black levels than TN my senpai.

This.
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Enjoy your cancer faggot

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>The amount of radiation escaping the front of the monitor is widely considered not to be harmful
Do you even read your sources?

We need to bring back CRT. Imagine modern CRT. Degauss button. Somebody do a Kickstarter or found a company for that I beg.

No thanks. They are ugly as fuck and take up too much room, Not to even mention they are not as energy efficient as LCD or LED's

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>IPS has worse black levels than TN my senpai.
Generally IPS is better, there's nothing wrong with TN, but both are better than CRTs nowadays. CRTs where far from perfect, don't let your nostalgia fool you.

I'm not CRTs are still widely available, you can get nice professional VGA monitors for 5€ these days. There's no need to make them into some hipster meme with modern reproductions.

LCD is generally better but it really fails in the deep blacks and response time departments.

Hence modern IPS panels. In terms of resolution and refresh rate, they are better than CRTs.
CRTs didn't have perfect blacks, modern OLED displays for example do.

Of course, you can't do 600x400 at 400 Hz with modern panels, but why would you? But 2560x1440 at 140 Hz on the other hand is no problem, at it will usually look far nicer for detailed content.

IPS has worse blacks and response times than cheapo TN panels m8, the only thing it does better is muh colors and viewing angles for normie designers.

I'm getting mixed signals here
So are you a crt fanboy or a lcd fanboy?

The sheer insanity of the CRT. It's just a totally overtuned oscilloscope. After having worked on some basic experiments with a Braun tube I was extremely leery of the technology that amounted to extremely precisely aiming a ray of electrons at different areas on the front end of the tube. Using that for imaging is just all kinds of wonky.

I'm not comparing IPS to TN, just to CRTs. Modern IPS has worse response times than TN, but both are still better than CRTs. IPS has better colors and contrast ratio, also viewing angles, TN really is superior is response times only.

And how are you going to drive them ? Most modern card don't have RAMDACs anymore, and if you're relying on $5 hdmi-to-vga adapters to drive a CRT, you're missing the point. Most of them will cap out at 1200p@60Hz.

The same reason we let the music industry go backwards youtube.com/watch?v=8-bgiiTxhzM

With my old consoles and computers, duh.
You do realize CRTs with DVI-D and HDMI existed that would let you drive them as high of resolutions and refresh rates as VGA did? Those cheap DACs just are that, cheap, DACs themselves aren't a limitation.

Because normies don't use them in dark basements so black levels don't matter that much to them.

Fucking normies amiright?

IPS has worse blacks than TN thanks to IPS glow and both are worse than CRT, CRT has the best response time too (literally 0ms).

VA is the only LCD type that has a decent contrast ratio and even then it's several times worse than CRT.

I've accepted the fact that everything done will be recorded and be seen by some nigger on the internet, there's not a wholenlot you can do abourlt it, but some people are fighting against it

I've never seen a CRT with digital inputs that would go above 1080i@60Hz

>CRT has the best response time too (literally 0ms).

If that were true it would flicker like a motherfucker would it not?

And its a trinitron, no less. Of course the cheapo dell is going to look like shit in comparison

we traded quality for convenience of size, same as cell phones with call quality

You can see them flicker until you drive them up to about 85Hz. Cheap ones anyway.

it does

1:1 aspect ratio 5k OLED when?

Muh multi mounted squares breh.

OLED is a meme, it will never become mainstream.

Samsung just invested billions in it and Google just bought LG OLED tech.

Now sure how it's a meme when it can save power with individual pixels by design.

It's planned obsolescence: the technology.
Of course kike phone companies like Samsung and Google are investing in it, it basically ensures that the device becomes unusable in a few years.

Uh, you don't get to bring good contrast ratios

>planned obsolescence
I don't think you know what that meme means. When 95% of all consumers chuck the phone at the latest after five years, then making it so that the screen lasts for five is nothing but efficiency. Given that in those five years, as rapidly as this tech field is moving, there's likely going to be much more efficient screens invented that can last longer in the next generation. You'd make a terrible engineer.

But 2004 is after CRT user.

- CRTs have superior color, but crappy sharpness and a fisheye-distorted image.
- LCD has sharp pixels and a perfectly flat image, but poor viewing angles and refresh rates.

Pick your poison...

I'd totally get a 1080i tube TV for they're expensive as fuck even today

>triad shadow mask

>*bleeds light*

>he doesn't want a CRT smartphone
How about SED then?

That looks like fucking garbage
I guess it's just like the old days amirite

Just because of the high sound I would never get a CRT again.
I value my ears, and I have Sennheiser HD595, so open back Headphones. The sound would kill me

>I have given up

Good goy. Here's your treat.

gee

I like older aspect ratios.

That Sony must've cost close to $10k in today's dollars.

>rare monitor that's slowly dying off and is an ass-pain to ship
vs
>the lcd jew

that price includes free local pickup only actually

>can't even get it shipped to you

CRT fags are the worse, even more so than the autists who swear by mechanical keyboards

DELET

>le comparison of early cheap tft to one of the most high end crts money could buy

Trinitrons are as good as it gets with CRT, but even they're nowhere near the uniformity and sharpness of LCDs.

>both are worse than CRT.
Not completely true. In terms of black levels CRTs only perform better than LCDs in low light environments. In a lit room a CRT's black will typically be lighter than an LCD's.

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Environment.

CRT monitors last longer and can be repaired

What is this picture for? Is it an lcd or the other one? Both?

>comparing CRT to a CCFL LCD.

never stopped people throwing them away.

>Worse contrast in most real world settings
>Worse colors than modern displays
>High end CRTs could only do 120hz at 1024x768 or so because of the monitor's horizontal scan rate
>Awful brightness
>Reflects light
>Inherently blurry
>Low resolutions
>Analog signal
>All CRT monitors are dying a slow death

You have to be mentally retarded to think CRTs are superior. They aren't even good at black levels because the phosphors reflect ambient light.

Pixel response time is a measure of how fast a pixel can change color. Ideally it's a measure of how long a pixel takes to go from fully black to fully white and back. Most companies measure "grey to grey" though.

The fact you see flicker on a CRT is proof that it has a fast response time. You're seeing the top of the frame go dark as the beam scans the lower parts. Our visual memory is long enough that we still see it as a single image however.

CRT response times are measured in nanoseconds. It's one of the few things they're objectively good at. It doesn't really matter much with things like backlight strobing though.

Literally the only thing CRT has over IPS LCD and soon OLED is non-fixed resolution. They're great for playing retro games and poorfags who can't afford a graphics card that runs all their games well at native resolution.

CRT were never good. Some of the manufacturers started smear campaigns to make LCD technology look worse in attempt to sell surplus CRT stock.

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Somewhere there is a parallel universe where flat screens were shrugged off as a meme and all that money went to CRT development, I want to go there.

Well whatever the qualities of CRT may be, the day I switched from a Viewsonic 17" CRT to a 30" Apple Cinema Display was monumental. I honestly can't start to being descibing the difference.

tfw i imagine watching 8k vhs tapes from the video store on my 8k crt

>8k crt
If I remember correctly there was a physical limitation to how large the tube could be before outside air pressure caused it to implode.

You can't talk to CRT shits because they are mentally stuck in 2004. They're like creationists and ignore anything new. So when you say IPS, they honestly think you're just making that up because they think updating hardware is for "normies". This is the same as the SSD meme as people cite shit that wasn't relevant since 2006.

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>the other universe has x-ray tv's and gamma glasses

feels bad man

lcds still make noise depending on your backlight's intensity
you probably won't notice because you have a computer with a fan in the same room as the display

Can IPS do non-native resolutions without looking like a blurry mess?

Jaggy pls

it is probably physically possible to produce an 8k crt there would be some problems but the whole large tube thing is a myth.


on a side note anyone remember these?

Ever tried to pick up a crt tv? one time I was carrying one to replace it with a flat screen and the crt was heavy as shit, so much so that the handles broke off and it went crashing to the floor where the glass shattered, making a big mess. Funny thing is, the handles were still in my hands.

Old stuff like that tends to break in unexpected ways.

This.

OLED > CRT
Prove me wrong.

OLED can't do this. 640x480 and it still looks crisp as fuck.

Looks like shit tbqfh senpai

If DPI is high enough low-res content will look decent, but until high DPI screens become the norm scaled images will still look like shit.

Your colors will always be uggo tier garbage though

On OLED?

No on whatever shit CRT you were using.

I don't buy the retarded "hurrdurr you need bigger pixels" argument. When pixels are indistinguishable, content is as good as it will ever be.

Thin, energy efficient, 99% of people don't give a shit.

>When pixels are indistinguishable, content is as good as it will ever be.
Sure, when you're watching TV pixel size makes no difference. But when you're looking at a computer monitor and it's a shittastic 20+ inches 1080p display you're going to notice the blurriness of scaled content.

t. Never seen an 8k panel vs HD panel in person

No? I'm not fucking poor lmao, I have a 4K VA panel as my monitor.

Some fags here own one

>all those fucking retards IT
Post a tnshit display that looks as good as the CRT on the left, then.

>tfw no HDMI input CRT
why even live, shit looks far better than any other display type.
I love my braun tubes.