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Systemd no longer wants to follow noauto,x-systemd.automount
This seems to have started with systemd 234. When i go to login via tty it will take he username and password but it will pause for 2 minutes, then checking the log the system is trying to mount that mountpoint despite nothing touching it. It hangs all tty's for 2 minutes until the drive is manually mounted(its a crypto disk i manually open).Am i not using the right switches?
Ian Cook
I'm afraid it's been a very long time since I actually studied this matter. Could you clarify what this parameter is intended to do and what file it's in? It appears to be an fstab parameter but I'm not sure what it's supposed to do. For the record I'm on Arch Linux and presumably on SystemD v. 234 and I have no issue with logging in via TTY. What distro do you use?
Aiden Adams
Q: I use KDE. when there is an update to that buggy POS software that is Plasma, how am I supposed to upgrade it? am I stuck on Plasma 5.x when plasma 5.y is out? or do distros upgrade their versions of plasma without me needing to reinstall another version?
Henry Powell
Im on arch.
noauto makes it not mount the device when it scans fstab. x-systemd.automount makes systemd skip over the device until something attempts to access it. The device in question is a crypto device that i manually decrypt when i need it. It has other mount options that i use so its convientnt to have it all fleshed out in fstab and then just decrypt it and mount it per fstab options
Wyatt Allen
I'm new to Linux and running Mint 18.2 Cinnamon, but I'm unable to figure out how to get video thumbnails working. Installed ffmpegthumbnailer and followed some steps online to make it work, but no thumbnails are showing up from what I've tried. Anyone here run into the same issue and fixed it?
Jordan Hughes
Make sure your file manager supports using ffmpegthumbnailer
Chase Robinson
It should. Using the default nemo file manager it came with. My preferences allow thumbnails for all files below 4GB, so that shouldn't be the issue either. Not sure what else to try.
Thomas Allen
Friendly reminder that Linux is just the kernel. Other kernels are: The Muen Separation Kernel muen.sk/ and HiStar scs.stanford.edu/histar/
Use a real distro like Arch instead of babby Ubuntu. Plasma works best with a rolling release distro, and you just keep it up to date.
Alexander Perry
garbage post
Jaxson Lopez
The most annoying thing about these stupid, contrarian /flt/ threads is that it fucked up my filter. Also, now this whole thread is going to be chocked to the brim with the most awful shitposts, even worse than they typically are.
Grayson Hughes
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
Isaac Morgan
I know that installing gentoo is a meme, but what about gentoo itself?
Kayden Carter
Calling the system “Linux” is a confusion that has spread faster than the corrective information. The people who combined Linux with the GNU system were not aware that that's what their activity amounted to. They focused their attention on the piece that was Linux and did not realize that more of the combination was GNU. They started calling it “Linux” even though that name did not fit what they had. It took a few years for us to realize what a problem this was and ask people to correct the practice. By that time, the confusion had a big head start. Most of the people who call the system “Linux” have never heard why that's not the right thing. They saw others using that name and assume it must be right. The name “Linux” also spreads a false picture of the system's origin, because people tend to suppose that the system's history was such as to fit that name. For instance, they often believe its development was started by Linus Torvalds in 1991. This false picture tends to reinforce the idea that the system should be called “Linux”.
Jayden Jackson
Most operating system distributions based on Linux as kernel are basically modified versions of the GNU operating system. We began developing GNU in 1984, years before Linus Torvalds started to write his kernel. Our goal was to develop a complete free operating system. Of course, we did not develop all the parts ourselves—but we led the way. We developed most of the central components, forming the largest single contribution to the whole system. The basic vision was ours too. In fairness, we ought to get at least equal mention.
Cameron Brooks
What if I use Linux without GNU? e.g. if I use musl, not glibc?
Jaxon Allen
gentoo is fine, useful for oddball architectures or systems where you need to compile things a special way but dont want to use ports.
Joshua Robinson
that's fine, but many newcomers to the kernel do so by way of GNU.
Cameron Jackson
> GNUfags showing up to educate us
Everything is truly back to normal.
Ian Cruz
...what about for ARM chromebooks?
Chase Myers
DID YOU JUST ASSUME MY USERLAND?????!!?!!!!???
Aaron Parker
> many newcomers to the kernel do so by way of GNU
No he didn't.
Nathaniel Morgan
Post your CFLAGS! -mtune=native -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -fstack-protector-strong -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -fno-lifetime-dse -fno-schedule-insns2 -mcx16 -mpopcnt -pipe -fno-plt -fstack-check -fno-plt -fstack-check -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2
Robert Reed
Ok i found a temporary fix to the problem. Editing the xplayer.thumbnailer file to load up ffmpegthumbnailer did the trick. So I'm guessing this means that even though I installed ffmpegthumbnailer, it was still using the thumbnailer program from xplayer. Although, I uninstalled xplayer so I don't know why it's still using it. Anybody know how to change the thumbnailer nemo uses? Would prefer it to use the actual ffmpegthumbnailer.thumbnailer file if I can.
Jordan Thompson
I'm relatively new to linux, but know enough to install things, make packages, and handle myself pretty well, but something that evades me completely is how to set a .gif file as your wallpaper. I've seen it done before but all the methods I've seen online are ridiculously outdated. If anyone could offer some insight it'd be nice.
Xavier Jones
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
Isaac Bailey
That might be correct but me saying I'm new to Linux isn't exactly incorrect either. To be more specific, I'm new to using both, but nothing about what I said was incorrect or deserving of that rant. Also you didn't answer my question.
>In some ways, Linux was the project that really made the split clear between what the FSF is pushing which is very different from what open source and Linux has always been about which is more of a technical superiority instead of a — this religious belief in freedom.
>There are 'extremists' in the free software world, but that's one major reason why I don't call what I do 'free software' any more. I don't want to be associated with the people for whom it's about exclusion and hatred. >-- Linus Torvalds
Ryder Collins
Why did Stalldaddy drop off the grid?
What's he know that we don't?
Luke Hall
>exclusion and hatred Some next level reverse psychology here
I bet Linus also thinks the US constitution is about exclusion and hatred for trying to take away the freedom to rob others of their freedom. Torvalds also seems like someone who would totally support monopolies.
The guy's just a corporate dick sucker who uses this idealistic notion of absolute freedom as a gimmick to win over idiots who don't realize that's impossible. (e.g. "I totally support Microsoft's right to remove your freedom, but I am avidly against Stallman's right to take away Microsoft's rights") Give me a fucking break. The whole issue of freedom is by nature a chicken and egg problem. Anyone who claims to be at the top in some sense of hands-off-do-whatever-you-want absolute freedom is either an idiot or a swindler.
Jason Anderson
Does Debian in command line mode/i3 mode mount USB drives the same way Ubuntu does in graphical mode? I'm so used to Ubuntu just fucking werking with USB drives, this was probably the main reason I even started using Ubuntu, I remember for years no distro, all the way back to the days of Caldera was getting this right. I really hope things have moved forward for non Ubuntu distros.
Matthew Martinez
he's never been on the grid
Jonathan Adams
your DE does that, so no i3 or a tty wont do it for you.
You should off yourself for bumping this thread from page 10 back to page 1. Learn to sage.
Jackson Evans
>I don't want to be associated with the people for whom it's about exclusion and hatred
nice one coming from the mouth of literally the guy who constantly excludes the gnu contibutions and spreads hatred on free software "extremism"
like wtf, free software isn't some terrorist camp, it's actually good for society, for everyone
wait some years when everything in FOSS is controlled by companies and theres no freedom left to get rid of spying, datamining and selling our secrets
Christian Diaz
Oh shit, I just realized I wasn't in /fGlt/. I've been flim flammed
Hudson Hernandez
Fug. Then what do people do when they need to do shit on a USB drive and they're not using a DE? I can't believe I've never thought of this but then I've been trying a lot of new things out recently.
Jordan Thomas
what's with all the hate toward Arch? Isn't it the undeniably best desktop distro for advanced users?
this is my setup: >boot arch installer >partition, mount and make filesystems >install the packages and package groups: base, base-devel, xorg, nouveau, SLiM, xorg-xinit, git and dmenu >do the tedious locale settings, users, passwords etc. >git clone i3-gaps from the arch user repository (i3 is included in the officials but i3 gaps isn't) >use the easy-as-any makepkg script to build and install i3 gaps from source >reboot
And then just configure everything like you would on any other linux distro.
Updates are incremental (rolling release) so if something breaks (and it rarely ever happens) it's easy to roll the few packages back and then solve whatever broke. Debian for instance introduces a huge update every other year or so that breaks all your configs and everything you've been doing.
Why the hate? And I mean, if you want yourself a just-werkz linux distro with GNOME 3, why won't you just go with Ubuntu now or, hell, Debian? Why would you want to customize debian when you only get packages from the yester-year?
Luke Bennett
the other thread just got deleted?
Alexander Roberts
>tfw mods got b8'd into deleting the correct thread
You can tab-complete.
So, type in :h & and then tab a few times to see what comes up as the best matches. You'd then see something like :let-&, similar to what has.
Really, it's all about looking into the help files and realizing that the help command is just linking you to specific/small sections of larger help files. When you get the time, I highly recommend looking through the Vim User Manual as a whole (:help, and then be sure to read that top section and understand how to navigate the help pages. And then follow the link to usr_01.txt and keep reading).
So, as a fuller picture, you have :h & -> :let-& --> usr_41.txt when scrolling up to the top of the page with :let-&'s explanation (note: it's much easier to read the user manual pages than the reference manual pages) --> &name, which is an expression for an option.
Samuel Edwards
>the undeniably best desktop distro for advanced users >advanced users >advanced >users Is watching anime and changing the theme really considered advanced? >i3-gaps vomit.jpg How can you say with a straight face that you actual use your desktop when half of it is wasted?
Brandon Watson
Went from Windows 7 to this because it just werks and is decent enough for studying.
Thomas Perry
WTF mods? Since when are you supporting literlly Sup Forums troll threads? Why did 404? Why did 404?
Wyatt King
>ran sudo pacman -Syu today >destroyed my system, had to chroot in off a liveusb to fix it
Isaiah Williams
it's just linux, nobody cares about gnu
Carter Powell
the problem with arch is that arch users can't stop spamming about how much they use arch
Lincoln Jenkins
Current state of Just Linux.
>Linux Foundation Head Calls 2017 ‘Year of the Linux Desktop’…. While Running Apple’s macOS Himself. archive.fo/UMTP4
>Linux Foundation calls the GPL a "restrictive virus" which can get you into legal trouble. archive.fo/sE6eb
Jace Jones
More like the current state of Sup Forums posters. >Linux Foundation calls the GPL a "restrictive virus" which can get you into legal trouble. Can't be bothered following the link but the GPL is very commonly referred to as viral and just ask linksys if it can get you in legal trouble. >>Linux Foundation Head Calls 2017 ‘Year of the Linux Desktop’…. While Running Apple’s macOS Himself. The linux foundation is a corporate vehicle to facilitiate governance input from industry stakeholders. It has very little input on the technical direction of linux, it basically does marketing and accounting. The people who actually have the most input into the kernel are from red hat (fedora et al) and google (IFAIK they still use their own ubuntu based distro).
Thomas Hall
It's time to face the facts. Linus Torvalds is nothing more than a whining, overly obese autistic manbaby who has not done anything beneficial for the computing OR technology world in the past 20 years. Seriously. Name something that Torvalds has done after 1991 besides bitching, crying, and moaning about bullshit that does not matter, or making some retarded, incomprehensible blogpost on Google+.
He demands that GNU/Linux be called Linux. That is fucking insane. The only reason Linux is even a THING is because of RMS and the Free Software movement. If anything, Linus should rename Linux to The GNU kernel, because this is the most common system where Linux is installed.
Linus still has the fucking gonads to act like he's superior to everyone else. Saying shit such as "My name is Linus Torvalds and I am your god." or "I hope you all die a painful death." What an asshole. Linus wrote like the first 2 percent of Linux, everything else was developed by the community.
He should be fucking grateful RMS stepped in to save his ass, and even allowing him to take partial credit for his achievements. If it wasn't for the GPL, he would be nothing, Linux would probably still sit on some FTP, being proprietary.
He's a washed up, morbidly obese man who tries to stay relevant by having these retarded arguments that are similar to those found in Silicon Valley. Face it Linuxers, Linus is a beardless man, and the only reason his name is still in the books is because of Stallman's achievements.
Bentley Bennett
>a whining, overly obese autistic manbaby who has not done anything beneficial for the computing OR technology world in the past 20 years wew which timeline did i end up in
Eli Long
git
David Martin
>he can't recognize pastas The absolute state of /flt/
Ayden Nelson
why was the other thread deleted? it was pretty fine imho
Kevin Turner
Reminder that sheckle hungry corporate fags do NOT represent GNU/Linux developers or users.
Jose Rodriguez
how do i get rid off this annoying bar on top of the browser, where it says the name of the page? Its there on everything I open not just the browser and its wasting so much space for no good reason. In the panel's display options I tried to tick >Don't reserve space on borders but that just hides it behind the panel and I can't use the minimize, maximize and close buttons.
Caleb Moore
Settings > Window Manager Tweaks > Accessibility > Hide title of windows when maximized it's a somewhat recent feature, and hidden in the wrong place
Ryder Anderson
bsd does not have this problem
Hudson Hughes
How can I completly de-GNU my Linux OS?
Gabriel Perry
worked perfectly , thank you
Cameron Powell
BSD doesn't have a lot of things, like software, drivers, users, etc.You know, the little things.
Angel Thompson
Install OpenBSD
Gavin Hill
wait, no. this is hiding my min,max and close buttons. how do i get them to show?
Ryan Bennett
sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root "$GNU"/
Jace Smith
Thanks.
James Cruz
How do you mount USB drives and do stuff with them on command line Debian?
Sebastian Parker
>unironically using a GNU distro Install Alpine,it just werks.
By using it and reporting bugs and issues Also by introducing to other people
Asher Lopez
There is new boot option in a grub after update. What should i do? Is it normal?
Xavier Hernandez
wif tiem and codse The memes don't work. They just make it worse.
John James
Depends, if it says Windows, you may have a virus. If it says Linux-something, you may just got a new kernel.
Matthew Ward
Linux. What should I do in this case?
Nicholas Gonzalez
Boot the newest version, if it works, you'e fine. You can basically deletele all older kernels, but it's a good idea to keep at least 2 kernels: the current one, and one which is older, but is proven to work.
Jordan Torres
How I can delete them?
Justin Perry
How does that happen if you pay attention a little Don't hate so much So the hate is on arch users and not arch? Isn't arch just gentoo with prebuilt binaries?
Lucas Jenkins
Why do people hate the GNU project? I don't understand.
Matthew Hughes
They hate everything.
Henry James
>Isn't arch just gentoo with prebuilt binaries? Yeah but they keep changing the name of them which is confusing and makes it harder to do reproducible builds. Why do people hate mormons so much? I don't understand.
Camden Foster
Install Windows.
Grayson Harris
shills, people who defend the convenience of enjoying the botnet, proprietary software developers, mac fags, bsd cucks, or just thin skinned people who cant stand an interjection
but after the boot screen my monitor literally shuts off (only way to restart is to hit the power button)
so i restarted, and at the boot screen i pressed tab and inputted nomodeset
i got pic related, if i input anything (startx for example) my screen goes blank, but does not shut off
what do
t. first time doing linux
Dylan Phillips
He's right you know. On Windows you have the WSL for Linux and regular Windows for gaming fun. There's no reason to install Linux on bare metal nowadays.
