if you want help: >Assemble parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >State the budget for your build (and country if not USA) >List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate >Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs? How to assemble a PC, select components & more (outdated) wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC
CPUs: No i5 unless discounted >G4560 - poverty-tier builds >R3 1200 - Budget builds (R5 1400 - If you need multithreading >R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage >R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use, not for just gaming
GPUs: Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser >VEGA >Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games >GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both >RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz >RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games >GTX 1070 or Vega 56 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high >GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p >GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games
RAM: >Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM >Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM, 3200 MHz is ideal
General: ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS! Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor
Thank you for posting your budget and use. Here, it's a little bit over but the SSD is worth it. Buy the SSD, put an OS on it, web browser, 1 or 2 games & buy a 50$ caviar blue HDD when you get paid. pcpartpicker.com/list/jsqCTH
David Adams
>G4560 for poverty tier >Costs $100 on Newegg and is out of stock on Amazon I wonder who could be behind this post? |> | |3 |
Charles Davis
It was just a copy and paste, man.
Connor Moore
Found a friends roommate selling a Predator XB241H for 280 , is it worth it anons ?
Justin Hall
G-Sync, 144hz, only 1080p... Nah.
Josiah Harris
What should i get as a monitor , my budget is around 300 brit bongs .
Ayden Cox
Do you need Freesync / G-Sync? What's your GPU?
Julian Taylor
G-sync got a nvdia card .
Austin Davis
Looks fine but you don't need a 1600 for 60hz and it's not ideal for 144hz. Could drop to a cheaper cpu and see if you can get a better GPU. Not an ideal 1060 either, can probably get a 580 for 300 if you use nowinstock .net
Juan Nelson
Okay, but what card?
Ryan Hill
1080
Dylan Taylor
Ehh, buy the used Predator.
Ryder Harris
It's been like that for months when the G4560 hasn't been worth buying in a long time, at least replace it with the G4600
Caleb Walker
Wished it was 1440p but it still looks like a solid deal , i guess.
Justin White
You can buy a 144hz 1440p for 500, 60hz for 400 if you want to splurge.
Thoughts? General: LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS! If your build isn't completely Poverty-tier, consider an SSD. Consider buying a large SSD for the price of an HDD + SSD, and saving 50$ next paycheck to buy an HDD. If you buy an M.2 SSD, and it isn't NVME, it probably isn't worth it.
If you want help: >View this handy list of parts logicalincrements.com/ >Assemble a part list pcpartpicker.com/ >If your part list needs a monitor, be sure to include information like response time, refresh rate, and resolution. >State the budget & currency for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >Clarify your goal for build improvements: L+ower price or improved specs? >Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on channels like Bitwit) youtube.com/watch?v=VhdV2wv3jQs
CPUs: No i5's unless discounted >R3 1200 - Budget builds (R5 1400 - If you need multithreading >R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage >i7 7700k - Heavy gaming & OCing >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use, not just for gaming
GPUs: Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices way up, using an old GPU / waiting to build may be a good idea right now. >1030 - Poverty-tier builds >1050 - Budget builds (>500$) >1050 TI - 1080p 60hz at low / medium settings >RX 580 - 1080p 60hz at ultra / high settings, supports Freesync >1060 6GB - 1080p 60hz at ultra / high settings, supports G-Sync >1070 - 1080p 144hz at ultra / high settings, or 1440p 60hz at ultra / high settings >1080 TI - 1440p 144hz at ultra / high settings
RAM: >Check your Mobo's QVL before buying any RAM, you usually want to buy RAM on your Mobo's QVL >Ryzen CPUs benefit a lot from high speed RAM, 3200 MHz is ideal
Hunter Wilson
>tfw still using my Sandy Bridge i5 2500k
I seriously need an upgrade for After Effects and other programs that use heavy CPU rendering, is moving to Ryzen/Kaby Lake worth it or should I stick with Sandy Bridge?
Add the AMD A6-9500 or A8-9600 APUs for actual poorfag builds, but at that budget you might as well buy a used business machine with an i5 Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge anyways
John Morris
The prices where I live are as follows: Intel Core i7-7700K - € 322 Intel Core i5-7600K - € 220 AMD Ryzen 5 1600X - € 222 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X - € 337 AMD Ryzen 7 1800X - € 448
I'm still using a Phenom II X6 and it's perfectly fine for everything except gaming which is the main reason I'm looking to build a new system. So far I'm leaning the most towards the i5-7600K. Just wondering if I'm missing something that's a completely retarded price/performance decision with these prices.
Camden Flores
If my PSU has a single 82A +12V rail and multiple modular 6-pin connectors is it safe to power a 1080ti with ~300W dual 8pin using 2x 6pin male to 6+2pin male?
Aaron Cox
Okay, here's the complete one. General: >LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS! >If your build isn't completely Poverty-tier, consider an SSD. Consider buying a large SSD for the price of an HDD + SSD, and saving 50$ next paycheck to buy an HDD. >If you buy an M.2 SSD, and it isn't NVME, it probably isn't worth it.
If you want help: >View this handy list of parts logicalincrements.com/ >Assemble a part list pcpartpicker.com/ >If your part list needs a monitor, be sure to include information like response time, refresh rate, and resolution. >State the budget & currency for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >Clarify your goal for build improvements: L+ower price or improved specs? >Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on channels like Bitwit) youtube.com/watch?v=VhdV2wv3jQs
CPUs: No i5's unless discounted >A6-9600 (APU) - Povert-tier builds >R3 1200 - Budget builds (R5 1400 - If you need multithreading >R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage >i7 7700k - Heavy gaming & OCing >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use, not just for gaming
GPUs: Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices way up, using an old GPU / waiting to build may be a good idea right now. >1030 - Poverty-tier builds >1050 - Budget builds (>500$) >1050 TI - 1080p 60hz at low / medium settings >RX 580 - 1080p 60hz at ultra / high settings, supports Freesync >1060 6GB - 1080p 60hz at ultra / high settings, supports G-Sync >1070 - 1080p 144hz at ultra / high settings, or 1440p 60hz at ultra / high settings >1080 TI - 1440p 144hz at ultra / high settings
RAM: >Check your Mobo's QVL before buying any RAM, you usually want to buy RAM on your Mobo's QVL >Ryzen CPUs benefit a lot from high speed RAM, 3200 MHz is ideal
John Hill
>a completely retarded price/performance decision with these prices >6C/12T for $220 >4C/4T for $220 Hmmm
Logan Sullivan
I have suffered through 7 years of gaming where my extra cores rarely helped.
James Rogers
GET THE 8700K cores+GAYMEN PERFORMANCCE
Joshua Cruz
Is the only difference between the 1050 and Ti the RAM?
According to passmark... my 1050 benches higher (6.4k) than Ti averages (~5.7k) and smokes the average of 1050 (~4.3k).
Where's the huge discrepancy coming from? Granted it may not apply to real world cases.
Ethan Moore
ryzen is pretty good though. but decision is really all up to you
I think my motherboard is dying. The PCIe slots aren't registering anything and I just checked the GPU on another board working fine. Rather than looking for a used mobo, I decided to do a slight upgrade before going full retard with Threadripper on Zen2. Anything I should be wary of? I know Ryzen used to have problems with memory, but the new Agesa updates have mostly fixed such problems. The thing that worries me most is getting fucked with a chip that can't compile for shit. I don't compile everything, but I do build almost daily with mpv, emulators, and other miscellaneous software.
And pic related is my current build. Is this a big enough jump in performance to warrant the price? It will mostly be used for gayman. Don't play a ton of newer games, but I'd like the option should something interesting come out
Xavier Evans
buy the crosshair instead, get 3200 memory.
Asher Mitchell
You missed the part where OP specifically says not to get an i5. That line is there for a reason, you know.
Adam Jackson
Crosshair as in an Asus mobo? Why would I do that? Also, I thought the kit was 3200, that was a fuckup.
Hudson Hall
Better than the Taichi. You do you.
Wyatt Morris
The Corsshair has been plagued with issues that the Taichi hasn't. For Ryzen boards the Assrock is better.
Matthew Long
yay ass rocks :DDDDDDDDDDD
Nathan Baker
can I use my dreamspark 8.1 key to activate wincuck 10 still? I got it from college like 4 years ago, recently reinstalled 8.1 and it still worked.
Juan Green
Is 1440p 60hz 25 inch worth it for 300 Canada bucks? Thinking of h257hu Acer.
Mainly web browsing, play some squad and overwatch.
The OP is pretty useless, it was being used to shill Threadripper before any benchmarks or reviews were even out, which came off as pretty distasteful.
Logan Lee
go down to a 1600 and ditch the aftermarket cooler, unless you want to do a real serious OC then the stock cooler should suffice.
use the money saved to get a better GPU (since you want this for gaymen) or depending on what case/psu you have an upgrade for one of those especially if your current PSU isn't modular
Jordan Bell
if you are doing gaming, especially older games then the 8600k wil last you for years.
Eli Howard
I can completely understand why someone would be mad at AMD for Bulldozer, it was pretty shit, but Ryzen is a massive improvement. Plus, if Intel could improve their reputation after the Pentium 4 disaster with the Core 2 Duo/Quad, then AMD can improve their's as well.
Nicholas Morales
ASUS PB328Q
opinions for a 2nd display?
Xavier Murphy
Allegedly RYZEN CPUs have issues with high speed ram though. Be advised.
Anthony Diaz
>3200 MHz is ideal That line is there for a reason.
can i play total war warhammer 2 in wqhd with max details with this machine?
Brandon Sanders
fair enough looking into ebay for older i5 2400 full desktops is a start if it interests you
Justin Cooper
What's the best 2-4tb hdd for mass storage? I want something reliable.
Nolan Gonzalez
I understand you think that buying prebuilt is a better idea for the money. That has nothing to do with the general, which is dedicated to doing something entirely different. Make a new general dedicated to prebuilts if you want.
Caleb Rodriguez
Barracuda 3TB
Leo Miller
generic WD crap
Parker Edwards
I am not that poster. But if someone wants to get into pc gaming(majority of reason to buildapc) it would be better to tell them this instead of spending double to get the same performance.
There is no reason to make a prebuilt general because it is as simple as leaving a line of text in the OP
Jace Myers
Can I make a headless Ryzen build? Have an inkling of an idea of a build, and will probably upgrade to Zen2 when it hits then reuse the 1600 I'm looking at into a NAS.
Luke Lopez
>it would be better to tell them this instead of spending double to get the same performance. It is a truism that buying something used is cheaper than buying new. This sort of knowledge doesn't need to be restated. In addition, buying used can be an adventure all its own, with its own respective issues regarding used conditions, online sellers, etc. This detracts from the purpose of the general. This is first and foremost a general for building a computer by yourself, not a general to see how far your money can stretch in getting a gaming PC by any means. And even if it was, buying a used computer in questionable condition without a long-term warranty wouldn't necessarily be the best way to go about it.
Michael Lee
I need an mATX case for >muh livingroom. Cube and flat (HTPC) are both okay, an example is pic related, which is the Antec ISK600M.
As I need 2 PCIe slots, ITX is unfortunately out of the question. Other hard requirements: the height should in the 20cm range or lower and support for at least 1 HDD and 1 SSD.
Some alternatives I've found: >Sharkoon CA-M >Silverstone Sugo SST-SG11B >Silverstone Milo ML03B Honestely, as I'm typing this I think the Antec is the best option in terms of price/features. But I'd like to know what you guys think.
Ethan Myers
> Check reviews > mixed feedback I guess buying hdds nowadays is like playing in the lottery
Hunter Scott
Is a 4k Gsync monitor worth now or should i wait for hdmi 2.1?
Connor Rodriguez
4k/120hz monitors should be coming out early next year so you might consider waiting™. If 4k/60 is good enough though go ahead, although you might have to use DisplayPort for now.
James Brooks
Mostly people with negative experiences will leave a feedback
Literally no reason
Dominic Cook
Don't listen to AMD fake news.
Benjamin Peterson
pcpartpicker.com/list/VdtMsJ What to upgrade? Have 600$ to spend. I was thinking either a GPU (1070), or mobo + CPU (PRIME Z270-A + i7 7700K). Any better GPU (1080/ti) costs too much on the site I have to buy from. I probably have other options with CPU + mobo but I think this is the best I can get. Which upgrade? Both shit? Should I upgrade other parts instead?
Jose Taylor
I was con fused by your post. I dunno if what you posted was your current build that you wanted to upgrade, or if that was your attempt at a 600 dollar build. If it's the former, here you go: pcpartpicker.com/list/Fxjm9W
If it's the latter, I'll edit it.
John Garcia
Sorry, I worded it poorly. That's my current build, I made a couple of years ago and now I want to upgrade something
Wyatt Campbell
I've heard a 1080ti will be "bottlenecked" by an R5 1600, but what does that mean? Does it mean I can't fully utilize the power of the GPU, or does it mean my performance will be worse than if I'd gotten a 1070 or something?
Luis Stewart
>can't fully utilize the power of the GPU basically this. a 1080 will be fully utilized with a ryzen 1600 CPU
granted its about 10-20% on average that the 1080 ti does not fully get utilized
I think tech deals did a video about it comparing 780 ti, 980 ti and 1080 ti
Jack Mitchell
upgrade to a 1070
I know prices in the US is like 50 dollars more for a 1080. are you sure you can't get something else?
Luke Evans
there's nothing wrong with haswell, a 4690k is still a solid chip, upgrade to a 1070/1080 now and wait until Zen2 to upgrade the whole platform.
Grayson Ramirez
Upgrading from Devil's Canyon to Kaby Lake won't improve much performance. If you can find a used i7 4790K for a good price I'd go with that. Upgrading your GPU would see a better performance improvement in games.
Brody Hughes
Thanks for all the help a couple weeks ago Sup Forums. Built the rig and it's great. The 1050ti can even run games decently through oculus.
David Gomez
what cpu?
Zachary Barnes
my new custom build is turning itself on when I sleep. not from sleep mode, but from a full shut down.
why is it doing this?
Adrian Davis
iT hAs a MiNd oF iTs oWN!!! tHE BOTnET iS reAL
Christopher Powell
They know. Smash your drive, burn the pieces, and throw it in a landfill.
Josiah Stewart
CPU won't start anymore, shuts off half a second after boot. PSU has fed light on it. It's been getting worse since the summer but I haven't really started using it kind of since a few weeks ago again.
Tried turning off all but one ram and graphics card on my mobo.. Nothing. Memory check is fine, so are both cards and ram sticks. Slow mode won't start the cpu either.
Why did my fucking psu break, can I sell or fix mine, what the fuck do I do
Jaxon Lee
>i7 7850k >2x 8gb ddr5 ram what
Carson Murphy
Wait for Coffee Lake
Wyatt Carter
Just Wait™
Aiden Torres
Sorry you're right, I'm fucking stupid
It's a
i7 6850k 2x 16gb 3000mhz ddr4 ram
Christopher Moore
why the fuck are digital KVMs so expensive?
I just watch to switch between two computers with HDMI only for one and DVI/HDMI for the other.
Ayden Green
G-guys, /emugen/ is making fun of Ryzen... my 1600 is on the way, did I fuck up? ;_;
Brandon White
thanks anons
my webcam light is even turned on when this happens
Mason Allen
what board is this on?
Anthony Richardson
no.
Nicholas James
Please anons help me watch my porn again
Brandon Peterson
yeah you fucked up.
DAILY REMINDER RYPOO IS SHITTY FOR GAYMEN AND ONLY FOR POOR NEETS
Logan Taylor
PSU, CPU or Mobo, check those out
Juan Moore
fellow emugener here
They cry IPC, but you have enough for anything pre-7th gen. I also got a 1600 intent on PS3 emulation, and it's getting there but a bit flaky. Otherwise it rips through any non-emulation tasks and gaymen I do so I'm content.
