Why has Sony been making their phones worse ever since the Xperia Z5?

Why has Sony been making their phones worse ever since the Xperia Z5?

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>Why has Sony been making their phones worse ever since the Xperia Z5?
idk

>Why has Sony been making their phones worse ever since the Xperia Z5?
I mean, the XZ1 models are a vast improvement over the previous iterations.
Just cause Sony isn't jumping the 'no bezel' bandwagon doesn't mean they've gotten worse.

XZ1 Compact looks good

Same reason why their consoles have gotten worse. All their competent engineers left, sort of like what happened with Apple.

How is XZ Premium worse than Z5?

4K HDR display
960 FPS slow mo
USB 3.1 Type-C

Z5 has nice specs, but I would consider it a downgrade from an XZ Premium.

Should I get the XZ premium or the blackberry keyone

XZ Premium

3D Creator is coming to Sony phones.

Scan 3d objects and faces.
Scan your crush.
Mod your favorite game with your friends.
Send scans to Scupteo to be 3d printed.

theverge.com/2017/8/31/16232720/sony-xperia-xz1-3d-creator-ifa-2017

You'd be a fool to buy anything else.

I absolutely love my XZ. Had a Z5C before.

I'd say Sony fucked up by pushing out a lot of mid and low range phones (X, XA, M5, E5, etc.) rather than simplifying their lineups. They were in a weird spot with the X series, the X Compact which deviated from the much loved flagship hardware and build quality in a smaller body and how they went on to call the next lineup XZ then now calling it XZ1 for some reason. Rather confusing.

Now that they've learned from their mistakes, made the Compact a flagship again and established the XZ series as the way forward rather than the arbitrary X series, I think they've got their shit together.

I'd say everything between the Z5 to XZ1 (except the XZ and XZ Premium) should be ignored like the plauge.

Why the fuck does the xperia line still have these bezels?

And I'm not saying this just because of the iphone x and galaxy s8. The XZ1 Compact would be amazing if at least the bottom bezel was a bit smaller.

Also forgot to mention they also launched an L series as well, despite having used L on a phone before.

They really need to get their shit together and simplify their phone lineups.

Still better than a notch.

got the XA1 for 50% off from best buy with an employee coupon. pretty comfy phone for 150USD. better than spending 9x that on phones with mildly better specs.

Apple had a loss of good leadership. Executive decisions fail them more than engineering does.

It's got a slightly underclocked 835, just because of space. But it's got everything the bigger XZ1 has.

Because they have the best speakers in the industry inside the bezels. It also makes it fucking easy to hold on to, versus letting it lay in your fingers.

Having said that, they need to move the android navigation buttons to the bottom of the bezel with soft touch buttons.

I really don't think the bottom bezel needs to be as thick as it is. Keep it and keep the speaker. Even the Nexus 6P front facing speaker bottom bezel looks thinner.

I want to get the phone but a downgrade in both device size, screen size, and dpi might make it feel like too much of a device downgrade from a 6p.

i got bambozzeled by sony when they still putting plastic lense in 2017

never again i will trust those yellow monkeys

It's good how the Xperia team doesn't give a fuck about the rest of the world sacrificing features to remove bezels, I just wish they would do the same with battery life.

Making it 0.2 mm thicker and adding 3 extra hours of screen on time per day is a good investment imo

How is the XZ1s battery life? Can it compare to the all day battery of the Z3 compact?

>Xz1 compact
>Flagship
>Launched after the xz1

No.

>muh bezels

who fucking cares

Or maybe it's the diversity hiring and the creation of a diversity subteam within apple to replace white men with anything else but them

"Who cares how big the screen is on a smartphone where the entire point of the device is the screen"

Smart!

I'm "downgrading" from a note for the XZ1 compact. Because of it's ease of those bezels. Making them more functional than speaker housings would be a better use of the space.

How is the camera on the XZ1?

I'm definitely interested in the xz1 compact even though I'm not into phones that much.

How kikeish is Sony with respect to returns? Google is pretty good about returns so long as you buy from them.

I'm "downgrading" from a 6p to probably an xz1c. If only that bottom bezel was thinner it would make the transition to a smaller screen easier.

Too bad the new aquos xx3 mini is uglier than the xx2 mini.

Most of the XZ1s battery life improvement comes from Oreo. It has the same 2700mAh battery as the compact, with a bigger 1080p screen. The compact will last a long while witht he same battery and smaller 720p screen.

>the entire point of the device is the screen
imagine buying a phone that can't fit in your pocket because of the 4k IPS 120hz display

Imagine suddenly thinking thinner bezels are worse because you hate apple and want to fit in on Sup Forums

order from Amazon, very generous return policy

Sony is also pretty good with repairs, when my power button spring came unhinged on my Z4 they didn't ask any questions, didn't even ask about my warranty or anything, although I did have to pay for shipping

The entire point of a smartphone is to be used, not to have as big a screen as possible to compensate for your tiny dick size and ham hands. Fuck off back to the gay bar Apple recruited you from.

>Having a larger screen in the same dimensions somehow means the device is no longer being used

lmao this furious anti apple autistic. yes, no phones had smaller bezels before the iphone x!

>mini
>5.1" screen

I shit you not, I've seen chinese tourists in my country with fucking 7" phablets as their primary phone. Looks fucking ridiculous because they have really small hands

I'm actually an iCuck, I just don't really give much of a fuck about bezel autism as long as the device looks good, which Sony shit does.

Really? All their new phone lines seem top tier to me.
Only thing is they have way too many models gets confusing which one to get.

Always the compact.

While you have a legitimate point, many smartphone manufacturers take this line of thinking too far, minimizing bezels to the point of limiting the function of the phone.

why do you want a small ass phone

I wonder why Sharp went from this mostly bezelless design in 2016 to this current version which imo just looks uglier.

I get moving the camera back up to the top bezel because its shitty on the bottom but looks like they just got lazy.

Imagine thinner bezels are a fucking nightmare when you have to go outside to work, faggot, or walk anywhere other than the water cooler. That shit doesn't fly when you work in industrial. Pragmatism is the market Sony is covering, and they're the only competent manufacturers in the niche, plain and simple. If you don't like it fuck right off and go hop in the SammyApple circlejerk you shitflinging toddler fuck.

What the fuck even is that? The original Aquos Crystal gave me an erection, that shit just looks like a shitty gold chink iPhone

The Blackberry KEYone is objectively the most aesthetic phone you could get right now

let's not pretend like you are gonna do anything different on any phone you get

it literally doesn't matter what phone you get even slightly, the ONLY factors which should have any impact on your decision is battery life and price

>Should I get the XZ premium or the blackberry keyone
fuck, forgot this pic

blackberry key one is what I'm getting next

LOOK AT IT

why do you badly want everything to be a goofy ass phablet that doesn't do anything a tablet or entry-level home theater can't do infinitely better or more conveniently

How retarded are you? You're acting like I said "remove all bezels and just give me a slab of glass"

As if the XZ1C would go from bombproof to fragile if you made that huge ass bottom bezel 0.5" thinner.

Idon't know. That's the newer Xx3 mini and the other posted is the older Xx2

To make phone calls, texts, listen to music, occasionally watch some Youtube, phone things.

Have a 6p and it's worst decision

You're a fucking retard, you're suggesting driving an increasingly function-less modality into a phone whose purpose is to act as just that: a fucking phone. It's evident Sony has no desire to cater to the oversaturated segments of the market (Read: Samsung, Apple & imitators) and that's exactly what they do, but obviously you can't understand the nuances of the blitheringly obvious overstated design model Sony has integrated into their product line that says just that. Fucking idiot.

>To make phone calls, texts, listen to music, occasionally watch some Youtube, phone things.

I used to think like you user, but after going from the Moto X to an xperia Z5, the difference in screen size made a HUGE difference for me.

The Moto X is a good phone, don't get me wrong. It was reliable and its just a nice experience to use, especially because of the hands free features and AMOLED screen.

That being said, I spend a LOT of my time posting on Sup Forums and watching YouTube videos on my phone, and the extra screen real estate makes a big difference. Watching YouTube videos is a lot nicer on that marginally larger screen.

The only downside to having a bigger phone is that it feels slightly less comfortable in my pocket, but... you get used to it in a week.

there's virtually zero downsides to having a larger phone, why wouldn't you want to have a larger phone?

Look at this mad retard.

Yes the entire xperia line is """"a fucking phone""""" thats why it has zero functionality besides making phone calls. And again you're insanely retarded for thinking any functionality is lost for thinning out a single giant bezel on the device.

You must think this thread is about an old sony ericsson device. Hope your eyesight improves one day.

Is the Z5 still worth getting? I want to upgrade from my 3 year old Z3.

I didn't say anything about bezels or apple. I implied that the average person doesn't need a monolith smartphone. I'd rather have a compact phone that fits comfortably in my pocket, even if the screen doesn't allow for viewing of 8k porn.

what's the deal about fingerprint sensors on the latest xperia phones?

Their phones have barely changed at all
The bezels make it much easier to use the phone in landscape, you can pinch the phone without worrying about pressing anything
Really just a question of whether you want a physical keyboard or not

I don't even want a physical keyboard that much and the blackberry keyone is still the sexiest phone ever created

I use to think like you but I'm not a walking manchild who needs to watch videos and play video games on his phone.

It's embarrassing to have a big phone, tbqh

I don't NEED to have a big phone, I WANT to have one, so I can watch AMVs on YouTube and post on Sup Forums on the go.

It doesn't really matter if you think this is embarrassing, it doesn't affect me.

here, have a cute vid
youtu.be/eNzYJqq9ENM

androidcentral.com/sony-fingerprint-sensors-us-deals

It was part of a contract somewhere when a deal with a carrier went south.

So they can either sell no phones in the American market, or sell phones with out the finger print reader enabled. But because it's just disabled in the software, you can flash it with any ROM basically and get the fingerprint sensor back.

Can I just flash it with the ROM of sony phones in Canada or something? Can I just drive up to Canada and buy it?

Yes you can. I'm not sure what the band's Canadians use, if they are any different at all. But you completely could just flash it with another countries stock ROM and get it back.

>XA1
>mediaturd
i don't know man.

>tfw I have the Xperia Z5 premium, the largest battery Sony has provided in a smartphone
For some reason Sony keeps shrinking the battery a tiny bit each generation. Even the newer XZ premium has a smaller battery. 3230 mAh compared to my 3430 mAh. I had the Xperia Z2 before this and it had the largest battery until Z5 premium (3200 mAh). Stop cucking us, Sony. I'm on to you.

any reviews of the xz1 compact camera?

Performance bumps on modern day flagships are almost negligible anyway, let alone a minor difference in clock speed. I'd gladly trade a few mhz for better thermal management and battery life any day.

And on top of that, they bastardized the M and L lines by using Mediatek crap.

is non-stock android shit? ive only ever owned nexus devices

>they have the best speakers in the industry inside the bezels

I'm inclined to believe this. The HTC M series were shilled as having the best front-facing stereo speakers, even though they sucked on the M9 I tried.

>probably shit updates like the Priv
Looks arent worth it

Depends on the OEM. Sony ROMs are pretty close to AOSP with a bunch of skinned elements and the usual custom system apps and services (many of which are useful or easily disabled).

Wrong

The worst thing they ever made is selling VAIO.

Sony's skin is alright imo. It's pretty close to stock, except the launcher is pretty garbage, you should use a different launcher if you get a xperia

I assume you meant *mistake
in which case I agree

the last sony vaio laptop had a lot of issues, lots of people got faulty WiFi chips among other things, but the working ones were really, really nice.

Vaio is still around - I don't know if they operate in non Japanese markets anymore, haven't heard anything about vaio since 2012

IP68 certified

does anyone actually give a shit about this?

I'm not gonna use my phone in the fucking shower, I would prefer if they didn't waterproof it and just made it better

I'm always using my phone in the shower, shit is handy.

stop masturbating to hentai in the shower

NEVER!!

>NEVER!!
What if I can satisfy your needs instead user~

>Wrong
ok

SD810 runs ultra toasty on mine

Do the services slow down the experience at all?

Also, assuming I use nova launcher, how much of the sony "skin" will I notice?

Whats wrong with their phones?

I've been exclusively buying Xperia Zs since the original one since they are water proof and only lightly changed from stock. Currently have a Z5 and wasn't planning on switching

ngl i'd give her twins

Same story here, loved my Z5 but the XZs was enough of a bump for me to upgrade. I always skip a generation so I started with the Z1 compact, got a Z3, then a Z5 then the XZs. Software has always been solid , expecially compared to my time with Samsung devices.

Is Xperia shit bloatware? I'm afraid of switching to a Sony phone from Nexus line.

Also how late are their updates? I know its carrier based but on average

Some of their shit is pretty damn good.
I go out of my way to install Xperia Keyboard and their Music app to my other non-Sony devices.
In terms of updates they are among the worst ones, not Samsung-grade as they actually try to maintain their devices but pretty slow. Their fastest update was a few months late and their slowest was around a year or so.

Because I have tiny baby ass hand

>been a hater of muh thin bezels way before Apple's leaked concept designs

I want my phone to be unique and not have to deal with accidental touches when holding the device the way I want to since the screen is now all covering.

I think Sony could cut down the bezel a tad bit, but I wouldn't want them removed.

pretty sure thats all of being asked for

you don't have to have been mind controlled by apple and samsung to think that the xperia phones could live with slightly smaller bezels

age

Is it? I had a look and spotted nothing really good about it
I have a Z3C and I'm not sure the XZ really offers anything that's a must have

I actually miss Jelly Bean

well then why put those 3 virtual buttons there if you have enough space one the bottom margin to put some physical ones, they are reducing the usable space of your screen for no reason

I just wish they put a Qualcomm chip into xa1 ultra. I want big screen and don't want to deal with mtk

Their small curved design composite carbon magnesium waterproof phones are basically the Nokia of today, with usb C to boot

>they went on to call the next lineup XZ then now calling it XZ1 for some reason

Sony did that previously with the Z series, too. I don't know but they are just like that. The first phone called Z1 actually came after the original Z, and then Z2 and 3 followed. now we have XA first and the successor is XA1, fucking nipponese how do they work?

Honestly if my Z5C dies, I'd buy some compact version of whatever sony is currently offering since it's probably the only halfway decent sub 5 inch sized phone.

>I have a Z3C
I have a Z3C as well but am considering this XZ1 Compact as my upgrade. I have played with the X compact and it simply didn't offer enough of an improvement.

Should I get a new sony phone in december (currently looking at the xa1 or xa1 plus), or should I wait until MWC and see if sony reveals any new budget/midrange phones?

>fucking nipponese how do they work?
Their codenames are slightly better.
It's either their seasonal waifu or food.