General: >If your build isn't completely Poverty-tier, consider an SSD. Consider buying a large SSD for the price of an HDD + SSD, and saving 50$ next paycheck to buy an HDD
If you want help: >View this handy guide on picking parts logicalincrements.com/ >Assemble a part list pcpartpicker.com/ >If your part list needs a monitor, be sure to include information like response time, refresh rate, and resolution >State the budget & currency for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on channels like Bitwit) youtube.com/watch?v=VhdV2wv3jQs
CPUs: >A8-9600 (APU) - Poverty-tier builds (Don't bother with a dGPU at this point) >R3 1200 - Budget builds (R3 1300x - Good stop gap between the 1200 and Ryzen 5, get a R5 1400 if you need multithreading >R5 1600 - High FPS Gaming & Mixed uses, 1600x if you can't be bothered to overclock >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use, not just for gaming
GPUs: Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices way up, using an old GPU / waiting to build may be a good idea right now. Anything below the RX 560/GTX 1050ti is garbage and not worth even considering >1050 TI - 1080p 60hz at low / medium settings >RX 580 - 1080p 60hz at high / ultra settings, supports Freesync >1060 6GB - 1080p 60hz at high/ ultra settings, supports G-Sync >1070 or Vega 56 - 1080p 144hz at high / ultra settings, or 1440p 60hz at high / ultra settings >1080 TI - 1440p 144hz at high / ultra settings, or 4k 60hz at high / ultra settings
RAM: >Check your Mobo's QVL before buying any RAM, you usually want to buy RAM on your Mobo's QVL. >Ryzen CPUs benefit from high speed RAM, 3200(+) MHz is ideal
>ryzen likes 3200 ram >decide to invest in ecc ram in new build >3200 ecc ram does not exist How shittier is performance really with 2133 as opposed to 3200? Very focussed on single thread performance
Joseph Roberts
This (top is 512 960 evo) but the price is $1000 off. I know the CPU is over kill but I really want a thread ripper and for the price can't really pass.
Jonathan Campbell
~20%
Why do you even want ECC? If it's autism then stop.
Wyatt Bennett
1. WIll my SLI GTX 1080 be suitable for a 4K 144hz monitor for gaming/video editing?
2. Should I wait until 2018 to purchase a 4K HDR 144hz 30+ inch monitor ?
Oliver Murphy
I have 2400 and it's fine...
James Flores
1080p monitor on a 1.5k laptop? Keep searching friend, you want neither of these.
Henry Bennett
Sli 1080ti barely gets 4k 60fps on ultra
Christopher Baker
in a potato game like overwatch
Alexander Lopez
I get a steady around 60-65 degrees while gaming with my Ryzen 1600. Is this fine? What's the max "safe" temp for continuous use? Stock cooler and not OC
Aiden Ross
>SLI
Save the money.
Nathaniel Garcia
I don't play all that many games but in R6 Siege I get 120fps on high. Every game I've tried I got a steady 60fps on high.
Lucas Turner
I use the SLI for gaming when not gpu mining anyways.
Owen Green
I'm paranoid cosmic rays will fuck up my day eventually
Angel Lewis
What are you talking about. I swear some people in these threads only skim the fist words of a post
Ryder Gutierrez
What's the max you have/would spend on a tower? Is it something that you can reasonably skimp on or am I missing something that makes spending upwards of a couple hundred pounds on one worth it?
Sebastian Lewis
Bought a corsair 270r with window for 60$. Durable, simple, good airflow, ect. You can spend a lot more on a case for a variety of reasons.
Get a B350 Tomohawk or Carbon Pro. Get 3000+MHz RAM, and make sure the MOBO supports it. Get a better PSU, 80+ Gold or better Also, do you already have that case? If not, how much are you going to pay for it?
Luis Lewis
>$660 for a 1070 Isn't a 1080ti like $750?
Dominic Allen
what said, but also get 2x8GB RAM, 8GB isn't enough for a lot of games.
Thank you for the suggestions. I don't have any of the parts yet. The case is $99 but ill probs get a cheaper one idk yet Not in Aus. The only ones I've seen are $1000+ Righto boss
Andrew Walker
>new build >lol clock_watchdog_timeout error fag >try every solution I found from the first 15 pages of google >lol clock_watchdog_timeout error fag an act of murder will be performed tonight. turn on cnn
John Allen
you're fine
Noah Ward
Any opinion on Fractal Design Core 2500?
Nathan Jones
update errything ya shit
Kayden Martin
i have narrowed monitors down to these two which one would you get?
Anyone ever bought parts off ebay? If so how did they arrive? Is it safe? etc.
Justin Martinez
it is always best to avoid buying used parts or new parts from questionable sources when on amazon the rule to follow is if its not both shipped and sold by amazon or its manufacturer dont buy it when on ebay just dont you always run the risk of getting something broken or a box of rocks
David Taylor
Is ram done raising in price? This shit is getting ridiculous, wish I bought last year
Elijah Foster
>$99 That's fine if it's good, I just always expect Phanteks to be $200+. At $100 I'd recommend the Define R5, it's pretty quiet even under max fan load.
Thomas Mitchell
Nah demand is raising due to Smartphones using more ram.
Dominic Perry
It's Fractal Design, it's probably a good case. Doesn't look like it has dust filters though.
Joseph Cruz
I don't know about these specific monitors, but I prefer Dell in general and I've heard bad things about ASUS' quality control.
Levi Garcia
Best 1440p 27" monitor that won't leave me homeless? Never heard of BenQ, is it some chink shit?
Connor Peterson
i dont worry so much about QC i tend to have pretty good luck when it comes to hardware i have never once had to RMA a thing
Caleb Hughes
>narrowed >ultrawide kek nice
Aaron Miller
In that case I'd pick the Dell for the $150 price difference.
Daniel Bell
IT WAS NOT A PUN!!!!!!!
Sebastian Howard
>never heard of BenQ mate are you still in the 90's? they acquired zowie gear in 2015
David Martin
what are you talking about? 150? its like a ten dollar difference
Justin Brown
I have 3 HDDs. What's a good full ATX case? I'm looking at the Phanteks Enthoo Pro.
Logan Thomas
I have asus vw195, buttons except power button died like few days after their use, so don't even bother getting anything from them.
Justin Adams
does anyone know what the best timing for the CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 would be?
in that case i might just get the dell and a vesa desk mount so i can finally get these two stands off my desk and free most of it up one of the reasons im going ultra wide is to hopefully reduce the power i use by running two monitors and reduce the number of cables running about
Joseph Collins
Crypto mining was a mistake. Fuggin $400 for a 1060
2444 or 2666. Look at benchmarks. I feel the ram thing is grossly overstated in some cases. Although in others the difference is more that 5 fps
Joshua Stewart
I haven't kept up with BIOS and AGESA updates but for a while 3200 was the max stable speed you could run on Ryzen chipsets.
If there is a big price difference between 3000 and 3200 sticks, go for the 3000 and run it at 2933 otherwise go for the 3200 b-die if you want to max out your system.
Liam Richardson
Looks like shit, would rather save $15 dollars and get a good $40 case
Dylan Hernandez
Doesn't 3000 always run at 2933 anyway? Barely any boards support faster ram. I'm glad ryzen is pushing manufactures to make faster ram, funny that with ddr3 1866 was beast but ddr4 doesn't even have an option that slow
Nathan Martinez
r8 my build, i just got all the parts today
AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Prime B350-Plus GTX 1080 Strix Aura 8GB T-Force Night Hawk 3000MHz (2x8GB) DDR4
Cameron Thomas
Nice/10
Ian Garcia
I just figured I would make it clear to anyone coming onto Ryzen that the options for speeds on the motherboards are 3200, 2933, and 2667. There is no 3000 or 2800 speed.
Ayden Flores
Sup Sup Forums I'm looking for a new case and since most of the modern decent cases got no optical drive bay I got a question. How fucked I would be without optical drive?
Henry Stewart
No one except for autist who insist they need one, uses them anymore.
Jose Foster
Anybody have any idea what the fuck kind of monitor I should get? I want 144hz refresh rate with decent colors, but it seems like all the articles I find are about 1440p monitors (which I probably can't afford) or don't even mention the goddamn color.
Jacob Evans
I'm pretty sure if you want decent color 144hz monitor you need a 1440p/144hz monitor because they don't make any 1080p/144hz IPS monitors last I checked.
Caleb Reed
depends on how often you use one. Either way, you can just buy an external optical drive that plugs in via USB for temporary use.
Aiden Long
I've not had one since 2014, The only time it was a pain for me was when i had to download a driver for my wireless dongle. Catch 22, no driver for the CD it came with and couldn't download the driver from the internet. So i just went to a friends.
Other than that i've never needed one.
Christopher Morris
The response is right, there are no high refresh rate 1080p IPS displays. TN displays can have good color, it is just slightly worse and you have to do more research to find the one you want since the monitor doesn't have an IPS label that tells you just by looking at it. For 1440p high-refresh IPS be prepared to spend at least $500.
Adam Williams
i'm somehow running 3066
Colton Myers
>depends on how often you use one. Well, not often to be honest, but it helps in case something goes wrong like fucked up HDD/Windows reinstall. Oh, and I occasionally writing games for my old consoles.
Benjamin Baker
Your best bet is the Samsung Panel that uses VA rather than TN, or make the leap to 1440p
Imo get a good case without ood slots than a mediocre case with slots, and consider using an external one if you really want it.
Maybe something like the Enthoo Pro M would work for you though.
Joseph Jones
I have done 3066MHz on ASRock.
Luis White
>Maybe something like the Enthoo Pro M would work for you though. There's also the Cooler Master Masterbox 5, Cooler Master Mastercase 5, Fractal Design Focus G, and Fractal Design R5
Matthew Sullivan
Don't worry about it unless you're setting radioactive materials on top of your dimms. If your case is metal, you're as shielded as you need to be.
Prob about this match give or take depending on which cpu
Blake Martin
What are the deciding factors for the choice in mainboards? Treat me like a retard who has no clue of computers.
Ian Gutierrez
Looks.
Jason Wilson
>$1000 motherboard Is that absolutely necessary these days for SLIing two GPUs? Or does it have some sort of amazing feature that you absolutely require? I'm 99% sure you won't notice ANY difference if you go with a $500 or even $300 mobo instead.
If anything, double up the RAM. Realistically 16GB is plenty, but with your kind of build and budget, why settle for "realistically plenty". I've unironically ran out of 16GB before. And with a server/workstation grade CPU, you'll have the freedom to basically host servers for games and shit, or do compute tasks on a few threads - and this kind of stuff does eat up RAM: the times when I felt 16GB wasn't enough was mostly when running some servers in VMs, and then trying to run a couple of games (clients) on top of that.
Jonathan Reed
I said treat me like a retard, not a lobotomite.
Eli Gutierrez
To my /homeserver/ folk, amazone has a 14 hour deal for networking equipment right now
Vrm Cooling, io ports, features(like dual m.2), bios, reviews, price, aesthetics. A mix of those, though generally there's never a perfect board, you just make compromises until you find a board that fits your needs.
Jacob Cox
What do you want to use your computer for? Do you intend to overclock? How much maximum RAM do you want available? How big of a case do you want to use? How important is built in networking (Wi-Fi, Bluetooth) to you? Are you using a video card, or do you need on board graphics? Are you a huge faggot who needs RGB lighting all over the place? Do you intend to water cool?
Asher Clark
Also avoid Chinese capacitors if you can, also how pretty is the board, also power phases.
Tyler Ramirez
>Cout < R endl; kek
Christopher Campbell
Most good cases have 5.25" bays, what are you talking about?
Nathaniel Watson
It's a great "I am not buying this but it looks cool" build. I don't have a an optical drive and I haven't had any problems with that.
Eli Scott
Cheapest tr4 is $569 I think. Fair enough, I couldn't tell too much difference between boards honestly.
John Smith
Sounds like I should check up on the AGESA updates, I just set my RAM and 2933 6 months ago and left it alone.
Aiden Nelson
See , And since we're explaining things like you're a retard AMD motherboards only take AMD CPUs and Intel motherboards only take Intel CPUs.
Tyler Rogers
Is the difference between an 8GB RX 570 and an 8GB RX 580 big enough to justify the increase in price?
I'm looking at the Nitro+ series of cards.
Going to do some rendering, would the increase in power for the 580 be more important? Or does the RAM count more?
Blake Morris
The 580 is about 16% better. For rendering, gobs of RAM is probably more important, but a 16% faster video card will probably speed up times by... I dunno, up to 16%. Probably less.
