If you want help: >State the budget & currency for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, try to include information like response time, refresh rate, resolution, and size
CPUs: >No i5s unless 50% discount; new i3s will be old i5 equivalents >G4560 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPU >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Check your Mobo's QVL before buying RAM or look for user reports >Ryzen CPUs benefit a lot from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
GPUs: Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon), so using an old GPU or waiting to build may be a good idea right now. >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced gfx cards for 1080p; 6GB 1060 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 / 1080 - 1440p >GTX 1080Ti - 4K
General: >If your build isn't completely Poverty-tier, consider an 240GB or larger SSD. >If your build needs Wifi, you will need a Wireless Network Adapter. General rule of thumb is more than 2 antennas
I'll ask here again, is anyone else using liquid metal, or is it just me?
Matthew Carter
Upgrading my fx6300, should I go for a 1200 or a 1400? I'll only watch anime and play cs:go with it.
Jonathan Clark
Why upgrade?
Ryan Turner
No reason to upgrade. If you did, it would be to the G4560 unless you just want to buy AMD.
Parker Carter
No one uses liquid metal because it requires delidding the CPU. AMD Ryzen chips don't need to be delidded because the die is soldered to the heat spreader on those. Intel uses that TIM paste and does need delidding for decent temps.
We haven't recommended Intel in months and a majority of people who DO buy Intel won't care to go through the hassle of delidding.
Of course you're the only one here using liquid metal.
Ethan Gonzalez
This, for your usage the G4560 is WAY better.
Owen Gonzalez
A 1200 should be all you need.
Dylan Lee
Like a mimetic polyalloy?
Connor Bennett
Isn't that a six core? It should be fine, it's got the same amount of cores as the new coffeelake i7.
Parker Morgan
It's an FX chip. The 6 core has similar performance to a hyperthreaded Pentium, and the 8 core variant can game like an entry level i5.
Julian Lee
>cores are all you need Would you please shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about
Logan Foster
>deliding A gpu doesn't need to be delided, my 980ti which was in the picture runs at a cool 35-36C under full load after applying conductonaught
Brody Fisher
Just a excuse for a new build, got tired of this one.
>G4560 Will look into it. But a 1200 sounds better for a little more money. Thanks.
Yes. But it only got cores, everything else is shit.
Ryan Collins
I was being ironic since all the recommendations lately have been ryzen without considering that not everyone benefits form the extra cores like they would from the higher per thread performance.
>1440p >144hz >32" >4ms >better than TN panel >variable refresh support >good feature support >healthy amount of ports >RGB backlighting (meme) >under £500/$500
what's the catch? i really wanna buy it to replace this old samsung 1080p 32" tv i've been using for the last 3 years which has like 15ms input lag and an led/lcd panel.
Elijah Morales
The Ryzen 1600 is the best bang for the buck, but more programs are becoming able to take advantage of multiple cores.
Austin James
Go with the 1200. Although it suffers on single core performance (by about 5%), it beats the G4560 everywhere else.
Benjamin Allen
>best bang for the buck but not the best altogether. it's harder now to recommend cpu's since they are all trading blows at different levels and different tasks, the key is knowing what the buyer wants, and what they are willing to pay.
Logan Robinson
>it's harder now to recommend cpu's since they are all trading blows at different levels and different tasks, That's kinda what competition does. Personally, I'd probably be find with a Ryzen 5 1400.
Kevin Young
I got an acer 1440 144hz 1ms for $400 a year or so ago, not sure how much better that panel is than the one I got though.
Tyler Ross
I use it on my 1080 Ti, it's p.good
Gavin Diaz
Probably just going to buy everything on amazon because it's easier, is everything going to be destroyed?
Parker Edwards
also I can't help but add that my first pc I built myself was an amd platform with a fx 8320 back when it was new and all the "more threads" and "software is getting better" talk was very similar. AMD is a lot closer to intel now than they were then but the situation is very close. Software IS getting better, but unless you are using your pc for rendering or encoding heavily you wont be able to use huge amounts of cores and threads, and will suffer if you are a gamer looking to get the highest frame rates possible.
Mason Stewart
probably not
Sebastian Powell
Anyone have a good recommendation for a motherboard to go with this?
Building this for a friend who may upgrade to an i5 later, as well as maybe add another memory stick. It's also possible that he might get an i7 k processor from the Intel retail edge deal so maybe a z270? Not sure.
For now he's just looking to build within a budget. The CPU was free btw. It's pretty much just going to be used for gaming.
James Collins
I have a evga 500w 80 plus atm and I need some psu recommendations, I'm upgrading to a ryzen 7 1700 + a 1080ti when the prices drop a little, so I will keep using my old r9 380 until I can get it, any ideas?
Aiden Lopez
i have no idea what im doing, plz advise
finally upgrading from my gtx 260, looking to buy a 1060 6gb but all the options and different brands confuse me. why are GPUs even sold under the name of various computer companies, like evga or msi, rather than straight from nvidia? what's the difference? and how is a casual suppose to understand pic related? the GTX 1060 ACX Single is more expensive than the GTX 1060 SC ACX Single, shouldnt the "SC" be more expensive?
also: -does the 1060 have some sort of cpu requirement as well, cuz i dont plan on upgrading my i7 920 for now -would the 1060 require that much more power than the 260 that i need to replace the PSU? -should i worry about the replacement GPU being the exact same size/dimension as my previous or else it wont fit my motherboard or something?
Wyatt Moore
>why are GPUs even sold under the name of various computer companies, like evga or msi, rather than straight from nvidia? nvidia has always sold through partners. And a good reason is they learned a lesson one of their biggest competitors failed with. Not ATI. The company was 3DFX. 3DFX was one of the best GPU manufacturers of the 1990s. However, they stopped selling through partners and started marketing under their own brand at one point. Within 3 years of that decision, they were bankrupt and nvidia bought them out. The only remnant of 3DFX that is still used today is SLI. youtube.com/watch?v=rrn-QYdT4F8
Connor Young
Newegg has a lot of bad reviews on this, but it has all the features I need and the price is right
MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard
How is MSI support if something goes wrong? Should I worry?
Cooper Moore
it's one of the most highly recommended boards. ignore those newegg reviews. most were from early on in Ryzen's life when memory compatibility was a big issue.
Jeremiah Butler
Nah, the Tomahawk is good. I always see it get recommended here. I have it myself and I've never had any issue.
if you are definitely wanting to use that cpu I'd pick up a z270, and you could probably score on one of the "open box" discounted items on new egg and save a bunch since I bet everyone is returning their recent kabylake purchases in anticipation of coffeelake and z370
but keep in mind his system is going to be instantly a generation behind and I'd tell your friend to keep an eye on i7 7700k prices closely since prices tend to go down pretty fast on old hardware when the new generation comes out, but as old stock depletes the prices will go back up since there is little to no supply and still may be some looking to upgrade old systems/ replace brocken cpu's. So if he times it right he could get an i7 for dirt cheap.
David Robinson
1400 if you got the money. Think in the future.
Brandon Sanchez
What's the difference between M and B+M for M.2?
Is there a good M.2 drive out there I should go for?
Ryder Cook
on PC Part picker. M means NVMe B+M is for Sata m.2 SSDs
Ryan Martinez
should be fine for a budget build
Blake Parker
So I want to go with M?
Will that work with the
Asher Morgan
Either one will work, but NVMe drives are faster. Sata drives will make one of the sata ports on the motherboard not work> The motherboard manual will tell you which one. The MSI B350 Tomahawk comes with 4 Sata 3 ports so it isn't that huge a deal.
Evan Kelly
I'm a bit of a noob at this, do motherboards come with the cables to connect SATA drives, or do they come with the drives?
I'm a bit scared to buy from anyone but amazon, there is a memory express in my city, does anyone have experience price matching with them?
Luke Green
Normally it's your PSU
Robert Thomas
Mobo comes with some, sometimes drives come with them. I think he's talking about the SATA data cables
Jace Richardson
Thanks. I got myself the 7700k summer deal for $200 and usually the winter deal is the same or less. I don't think he'll mind if it's a bit older.
Luis Bailey
>How does this look guys? what are your goals
Logan Walker
I want to both game and compute on it.
I have a shitty monitor but want to get a 144hz one in a few months.
Zachary Morales
>What's the catch It is curved
James Thomas
the 1700 isn't going to be as good at high refresh as an i7 7700k but you might want it for other reasons youtu.be/-oRLSotvcpA
Nathan Fisher
Damn.
Oh well, I need the threads for compiling more I think
Alexander Martin
if you were willing to spend a bit more leaf bux you could pick up a 8700k and have the best of both
Jaxson Morgan
How many more leafbux?
Dominic Hall
I don't know the conversion off the top of my head, but the 7700k is going for 300usd at the moment give or take and the msrp on the 8700k is 360usd
Isaiah Evans
Get the 1700 and upgrade sometime next year or 2019. You'll have socket support through 2020 unlike with anything Intel
Nolan Moore
I'm going to sound like an asshole here, but AMD has no track record to back up their claims, since they basically disappeared from the desktop gaming market for 4 years, and the improvements to their prior fx cpus were nominal over their life span
Michael Lewis
You don't sound like an asshole, you sound like a retard denying reality.
Landon Diaz
denying what reality, the future hasn't happened yet, you can't argue for hopes and dreams
Jackson Parker
I have a i7 2600k and an RX 470 with a freesync 144hz monitor. All I play is games, when should I start thinking about upgrading and which should I upgrade first?
Gavin Cox
Got a 1200, an Asus PRIME B350M-A and 16gb/3200mhz.
Brayden Reed
What's more sensible to upgrade for 144hz, GPU or CPU? Was thinking 7700k or 1070
Cooper Watson
GPU
Brayden Torres
I'm thinking of getting a new computer since mine is almost 10 years old. However I don't game so I will probably keep it in a lowish budget (R3 1200 or whatever i3 Covfefe Lake Intel comes out with, 8GB of RAM and what not), so what is the minimum GPU I could get away with?
Luke Hernandez
1050ti
Connor Taylor
Looking to upgrade my computer but I only web browse, all I need to upgrade is my CPU and RAM right?
Carter Phillips
>when should I start thinking about upgrading when you are no longer happy >which should I upgrade first at this point if you want anything more than an nvidia 1080 in graphics performance you're cpu will be limiting you, but the 2600k is still better than an i5 7600k.
If I were you I'd maybe get a new gpu since upgrading you're cpu wouldn't get you much if any performance with that graphics card, especially since if you upgrade cpu you will also need a new ram, mobo, and it'd be nice to have an nvme, which gets expensive especially with ram being overpriced by at least $100
Christopher Mitchell
>144hz what resolution? high refresh needs a fast threaded cpu, 7700k does it best atm, but if you have a shit gpu it wont matter unless you are playing at low res.
Austin Wright
pcpartpicker.com/list/pjgNd6 no intentions of building it. Just wanted to see what it would take to build something similar to the Xbox One X for similar performance
Ayden Thomas
It depends what you have and what games you play. Preferably you need a fast GPU and CPU. Whatever you have overclock it to the limit.
Juan Morris
1080p
Ayden Martin
what kind of hardware do you have now? and what games do you play?
Tyler Hall
2600k, RX 470.
Siege, WoW, those kinda games
Isaiah Green
my brother gave me a 1050ti he wasn't using so I've decided to upgrade everything else cause I'm currently bottlenecked by a very old mobo and cpu
have about 500$ USD to spend total, I'm a pleb with very basic pc knowledge so I'm really not sure whether I should be shooting for intel or AMD processors
any recommendations for mobo would be helpful as well.
Nathan Phillips
I'd say for 1080p 144hz a 1070 would probably do it on most games a gtx1080 would for sure be enough for almost any game but after that the 2600k is going to start limiting you.
right now though the rx 470 is whats holding you back, not the 2600k
Jason Thomas
forgot to mention its just for gaming and a little video editing
Jack Perez
Ryzen 1200, tomahawk B350
Eli Bell
is there an actual meaning behind Ti? why doesnt the 1060 have a Ti version?
Nicholas Moore
Ti is supposed to stand for titanium since Ti is the atomic symbol for titanium. Technically, the 1060 has a Ti model by another name. It's called the 1060 6GB
Adrian Murphy
Is this any good or would it be better to choose an external solution?
John Ortiz
titanium, it's just branding
William Smith
uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2kgvr7 Part build for a mixed game and engi-student assignment build to last me another 8 years over the shitbox prebuilt I got when I was a kid.
What needs unfucking? I'm mostly worried about the mobo since unlike the CPU and GPU, they're not easily comparable to each other on a one-to-one basis as much.
Andrew Cooper
if you really want that to last wait and get the 8700k
Ethan Thomas
Need to build a server PC. Needs to run webmail, maybe webhosting and a vm of centos for learning on windows server. I have a 1600 atm and 16gb ram, but I know a guy who wants to trade his 1800x for my 1600 + cash.
Can anyone chime in on this? For my purposes 1600 seems capable, but in the future I may need a couple more vms.
Is getting an 8700k really going to be worth it? What are the expected specs, and how much will it be?
Pic related though, a micro atx with a 1.3ghz CPU, integrated graphics of a notebook of the time. Surprised its lasted so well desu, being run 24/7 for months at a time.
Levi Phillips
don't bother with soundcards, onboard audio is perfect for 99.99% of uses these days if you're that much of an audiophile just go external
Xavier Garcia
I actually have a 1TB HD and 240g SSD. Thanks.
Any reason not to get higher end cpu/mb? I've got more than 200 to spend on them
Cameron Watson
honestly, its probably 9/10ths of the way to a external solution like an o2 amp / dac, or a basic schiit stack. So is a dragonfly, 9/10ths of the way there.
Asus Xonar stx (or whatever its called) the pcie version is pretty good.
If you're not obsessed with getting the best its fine. Anything is better than onboard sound. I have a 7k hifi system and I listen to my beyers through the out in my microphone because I dont think a seperate solution / card, is worth the cash at this point.
Elijah Edwards
>I'm mostly worried about the mobo pick one that has the features that you like i.e. ports, pcie layout, onboard audio, wifi, and most importantly imo overclocking features and bios options. and then go with a vendor whos got a good rep, looks nice, has a uefi that works for you.
Wyatt Garcia
In that case, get a Ryzen 5 1600
Jaxon Moore
>Is getting an 8700k really going to be worth it? yes it's a 7700k + 50% more cores and threads, and if you keep it as long as your last computer it will be even more worth it
I'm in need of a cheap 120-250 GiB SDD. Certain brands such as PNY andSK aren't available in my country, and international shipping it too expensive. What can you fellas recommend?
Cooper Hernandez
The recently released Crucial BX300 is one of the fastest SSDs on the market. Others to consider: Crucial MX300 Samsung 850 Evo Sandisk Ultra II PNY CS 1311
Camden Lee
I've got a 500gb crucial that I like, I'm sure this smaller one is probably just as decent, but I'm not sure how much you are wanting to spend.
Dominic Long
1080 vs 1080ti value per dollar? Where I am the 1080ti costs exactly 140% of 1080
Jacob Hughes
Thank you for the suggestions. Unfortunately, all your given options are in excess of 100 USD where I live. I'm aiming for something less than 80 USD (thus, I mentioned 120 GiB). It seems, however, that 120 GiB capacity is nonexistant for most SATA SSDs these days.
Isaac Morales
>value per dollar? like fps per dollar? just look up some benchmarks for games you play on both cards and then divide $$/FPS
Jack Garcia
No you actual retard, AM3 was supported for more than 4 years. No amount of whining about performance will change that fact. They didn't abandon it until Ryzen launched this year.
Jacob Lopez
BX300 is available as 120 GB. Also Sandisk SSD Plus.
