Sup Forums, how are they allowed to do this?

Sup Forums, how are they allowed to do this?
Why do they get a monopoly?

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They don't have a monopoly here and even offer 2gbps fiber.

Learn to use your neighbor's internet bandwidth for yourself.

Ajit Pai would say it is because there is too much regulation on ISPs and that the free market will save us all.

It's called capitalism. They can basically do whatever they want if people are willing (or forced) to pay for it.

Stop streaming shows in 4k.
May as well torrent. Then you get to keep it.

DUDE
JUST
CALL THEM THAT UR GAY AND ITS VERY ANTI SEMITIC TO PUT THOSE LIMITS IT WORKED FOR MEEEEEEEEEEEEE

THIS!!!!!
I haven't payed for internet in the last 5 years

just crack your normie neighbor's wifi
it's so fucking easy, it's absolutely retard level easy if you go for the deauth/fake AP route

>tfw 300g cap

Must be nice, they have a monopoly here and 2gbps fiber costs twice as much.

what a waste of money.

Well they have a 1gbps fiber provider to contest with for some actual competition.

Their 2gbps is about 2x the cost of Verizon's 1gbps.

7.5 cents/Mbps/month is cheap

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I hope you don't do this Sup Forums

It has nothing to do with capitalism you moron. This is a monopoly formed purely off the back of government regulation stifling the free market.

So jealous of that upload.

Here in NZ, I pay next to nothing for a gigabit line, but its 1000/100. I'd take 500/500 over it anyday.

Honestly most servers simply can't handle this upload.


Google drive caps out around 200mbps during peak hours and around 500-600mbps at night.

Still much better than a paltry 100mbps.

Why doesn't help in terms of regulation is municipal broadband being basically illegal in alot of states, municipals have the right just as anyone else to offer a product in the free market.

corporations = bad
lol why is this so hard to understand??

How much is that plan OP? My local ISP monopoly has 1TB/month at 100mbit for $100/month. I used to think 1TB was a lot until I found that 2 or 3 people doing an average amount of streaming can burn through it half way through the month

You better be baiting me

The problem is the patchwork of cabling infrastructure responsibility in the US.

The optimal solution as done here in NZ is for a government funded roll out of the core infrastructure nationwide, then allow ISP to rent the lines.

Now you have a fair and free market and NZ has such healthy competition because of it.

Its kinda hard to retroactively implement this in the US, but they made a huge mistake at not implementing a federal fiber infrastructure early on. Its still possible, but will never happen since the people in charge of such legislation are paid shills.

I do a lot of server hosting here in NZ, mainly a nextcloud server for my friends, typically my 100mbps is enough for this but still.

Yeah I have to admit it is nice being able to move files betwen my VPS with ease.

There is no real issue with running fiber lines here, municipals have no issues with this nor would a privately owned ISP have issue with it if they where willing to sacrifice some profit margin.
The big issue is backroom deals with towns and cities with ISPs like Comcast who are only willing to run line if they get tax breaks on top of having exclusive utility access to run line. There would be plenty of other ISPs willing to run line even to rural areas where it wouldn't be profitable in those towns if they could even get utility access to run the fiber.
Also the big ISPs again are hesitant to run fiber if there is already copper in place as long as they can milk those copper lines until they break down.
My local ISP despite being the only hardline ISPs around my area have been killing it, we have had fiber to the home for years now and gigabit is even available despite with me living outside of the city in an area.

Corporations are people, you know.

Kinda but not really.
Being able to bribe the local government to pass laws that literally makes you the only one in the town is not a requirement for a capitalist system, and if anything is something that goes against it.

You Americans voted for Republican. A month ago, if you had less than 25 mbps, you didn't have high speed internet. Now if you have 10 mbps, you had "high speed internet".

Lowering the standards so these shitty ISP get all the millions of subsidies. Your republican votes thanks you.

That's kinda the point of federal ownership, they can't just pay off some official in bumfuck Alabama, hook into the infrastructure and kill off the competition.

Its its federally owned you can at least in theory ensure that everyone gets the same treatment and access to the lines.

10mbps IS considered high-speed in most countries, its typical for an ADSL connection. If you think that telecommunications isnt 100% bipartisan then you're sadly mistaken.

Start by removing the FCC completely, reform with a coalition of state, PUBLIC representatives

pure bs, democrats handed them the monopoly via net neutrality. now that it's been repealed well things are gonna suck for a while but it'll end up with us in a much better place

I don't think anyone ITT knows that American ISPs took this idea from Canadian ones. It has absolutely nothing to do with capitalism as a whole

This is pure fantasy and anyone in the industry not looking to make $ off of you would tell you that you're retarded.

Nice revision.

says the shill who wants nn back in place before the market equalizes

gas the kikes when?

>before the market equalizes

how can a market of ONE company equalize?

Fucking retard. Capital costs to roll out your own ISP are too great for pretty much ANYONE to enter the market. Existing laws allow companies to make it nigh impossible for someone else to share cabinets or other infrastructure, so you're building from scratch to compete and this is STUPIDLY expensive without any government subsidies which we can't afford to give right now.

So no fucking moron, there isn't going to be some magical capitalistic equalizing of markets. The ONLY things that's gonna happen is now ISPs will get to double dip from companies like netflix a few years ago with Comcast and Verizon and force them to pay for priority service to their servers.

no dumbss nn was baring market entry, and wireless internet is the future which has much lower startup costs

>no dumbss nn was baring market entry
which provision in the bill did this?

No one besides rural cucks who know they can't get anything better care about wireless internet.

NN wasn't baring ANYONE from entering the market, the COST of infrastructure and the fact many local governments have signed exclusivity agreements with other ISPs already is what is keeping people from entering the market.

The biggest factor is laying fiber in an already built up area is expensive, it's far easier to lay fiber during the initial construction of an area. But even that has significant capital costs just due to the costs of fiber, labor, and other fiber related networking gear.


Costs to deploy GPON is estimated to be between $1000-2500 per customer depending on the region you're deploying to and local costs. With larger deployments you can get costs down to ~$500-800 per house. But this requires significant initial capital to buy the equipment necessary.

Essentially though, shit aint cheap and you're not really informed on the subject.

NN was never enforced, there is nothing to "equalize" into. FCC never had the power to enforce it.

fuck you and your witchcrafty numbers. and anyone who doesn't see cellular internet as the future is just a luddite

>anyone who doesn't see cellular internet as the future is just a luddite
Maybe for you poor flyover cucks.

Tell me, how does sub 20mbps feel? I haven't had to experience that since 2007.

>sub 20mbps
Don't you mean HIGH-SPEED Internet?

Check mate libcucks

Excuse me thats HYPER MEGA FAST

1.5mbs down 768kbs up is now High Speed according to paijeet

Yeah, without the FCC we can go back to the days where 2mbps is HIGH SPEED internet.

Be thank full your Dialup is considered High Speed in this first world economy goy

stop projecting :^)

>Being able to bribe the local government to pass laws that literally makes you the only one in the town
You just described capitalism. After all money is everything goy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crony_capitalism

corporations are like women. when you have a pack of them all fighting over you they're great. when you have exactly one that knows you have no other options its hell.

The net neutrality laws haven't even gone into effect yet. The ISPs already had a monopoly long before then.

Money is not everything here, there is a government as well.

A government run by people bought into office by the wealthy.

Yes, but they're still a separate force with different powers than money.

Also yes, "pure capitalism" is not perfect and need actual patches and fixes to work well, but trying to replace it with another system that never worked is a quite crappy solution.

>Yes, but they're still a separate force with different powers than money.
Not really, the money fuels the power. Some county councilman gets his pockets filled in exchange for supporting the restriction

I'm not saying that we should replace it or anything, I'm just saying that the retards in this thread who think pure capitalism is the solution need to fuck off.

my data cap is technically like 350gb but they dont enforce it at all

Ah yes, the "market fixes itself" crowd is quite dumb.

Can anyone tell me if it's normal for a small city of 67k people to sign a contract to an internet/TV/phone company to be the sole provider in the area for 99 years?

you fuckers are gonna make me cry. but at least my current FiOS speed is 10x the state average here . FiOS was bought by Frontier here so no 1Gbps though.

I just have TWC in my state (now spectrum) and its just as shit as it was before

They won't do anything to fix the spottiness and they won't fix the speed. I'm supposed to get 50down 5 up but I barely get 20 and 1

I can't do fuck all about them and the DA won't do shit because his office keeps claiming "theres nothing we can do"

rumors are Frontier will begin gigabit deployment in their more wealthy regions in the next year.

>comcast
>gigabit fiber right to my door
>speeds are consistent
>still a 1000gb limit
what the fuck is the point

>>what the fuck is the point
Having an excuse to charge you overages.

>Why do they get a monopoly?
Socialism and corrupt govt doing interventionism and a heavy regulatory system.

Comcast has no data cap on the 1gbps and 2gbps plans.

Further, their 1gbps isn't fiber, it's DOCSIS, so still copper last mile.

Only their 2gbps tier is fiber.

>being a burger and live in third world country

kek

kickbacks to the city from the telecom for 99 years on the backs of the telecom customers