what are the second best headphones after the ma900?
Benjamin Cox
t.Manami
Matthew Johnson
i want to kill myself....
Colton Perry
Is there any frequency response graphs of the HD 579? I liked almost everything about the HD558 but I think the elevated high bass/low mids gave it a muddy sound that I didn't care for.
Aiden Wood
You won't like HD579 then. It is essentially an HD558/598 with better bass extension. Not more midbass, but more sub-bass.
Eli Anderson
>I liked almost everything about the HD558 >high bass/low mids gave it a muddy sound that I didn't care for >muddy sound KEK, the mud cannon meme strikes again.
Jeremiah King
You should buy some more mid-fi headphones and devices
Juan James
That's what I thought. I got the HD600 and it's pretty good but I wouldn't mind having something with angled drivers like the HD558 has for a more forward sound stage.
Ian Collins
see
Jacob Russell
Do it and send me your shit.
Joseph Long
>worst girl ONE JOB
Isaac Ramirez
Why, too many headphones? Why don't you sell everything but your main headphone? That's what i'm currently doing.
Jaxson Smith
>tfw you finish a listening session with your senns
Lincoln Hernandez
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Gavin Anderson
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Jackson Fisher
>autism
Cameron Roberts
HD579s on MassDrop for $99. Do I do it?
OR do I do the AKG K7XX for $199? Would this require an amp/DAC?
Dylan Nguyen
HD579 if you want good headphones. K7XX if your name is Laquez.
Justin Edwards
>reposting this over and over >trashcan on carpet
Thomas Wright
The K7XX ain't so great, I take it?
Christopher Lewis
>I just want to drive a point that there is no single objective choice for headphone EQ currently and everyone has their own way of seemingly doing the same shit I actually agree on that, desu i always thought more of it as a subjective thing, not even the pros can agree on what is the best curve, i don't see why consumers should pick on as the perfect one except perhaps for trying to EQ based on it and liking the results, which can be pretty personal.
Hell, half of the time i spend here i keep reading posts about how "neutral is accurate" and using this argument to trash whatever doesn't fit that FR but most of them don't even know accurate to what exactly.
Mason Harris
See this? K7XX are even bassier than K712. They are literally bassier than Beats by Dre.
Caleb Peterson
What if user likes extra bass? Not everything has to be "neutral".
Eli Harris
t.Anjawon
Cameron King
because i don't like selling my stuff.
William Wright
Is there a moto Sup Forums of headphones?
Andrew Parker
t. basslet
Owen Campbell
what headphones are these?
Owen White
>how can white noise even compete
Jeremiah Thomas
Well, hot damn. That answers that.
I'm not a huge basshead. Like, it isn't bad, but I don't go all out for having it just 'cause I want things to boom a bit.
If the choice is down to $99 for some headphones that pump sound out the way it should be vs $199 for some headphones that pump sound out really well but with a heavier bassline, I'm going to go with the cheaper, more 'true to the sound' option.
Jayden Bennett
Those look like HD600 or HD650.
Lincoln Nguyen
What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?
Jordan Reed
Sony z7 or e-mu teak?
Camden Ramirez
>ma900 what is this garbage?
Blake Gutierrez
An absurdly comfortable candidate for equalization with 70mm angled drivers for exceptional soundstage. I cannot think of a better candidate for EQ.
Ian Howard
Based black tech man has spoken
Luis Reed
Idol trash here. Got up from nap. Currently listening to THE IDOLM@STER (M@STER VERSION) on my mdr-7506. Fulla 2 volume between 8 and 9 o'clock. Sounds lpretty loud (this volume sounded quiet to me before nap), I guess I'm getting used to this. I perceive the sound as a little better than before, but still meh.
Evan Edwards
Wtf I still hate audio technicas now
Blake Hughes
Is a schiit lyr2+bifrost multibit a decent stack?
Landon Flores
Multibit is a meme, same with all expensive dacs. you're better off getting a magni 3 and modi 2 Uber (for the flexibility and lack of USB power).
John Cooper
>bifrost multibit you won't hear a difference over the regular bifrost anyway
Jackson Bennett
It should be decent for that amount of money. What headphones are you using because the transducer in the chain will give you more bang for your dollar. I listened to schiit's whole lineup with a variety of headphones and ended up going with modi multibit & vali 2.
Henry Johnson
Would the Modi be a decent upgrade over the audioengine d1? It's what I have now with a buyerdynamic a20 for the amp (I regret the amp especially)
Right now I have DT1990pro and the E-MU ebony in the mail.
Lincoln Barnes
Not at all. The dac in that thing is fine, in fact most dacs outside of especially badly designed ones (almost non existent in this decade) all measure and perform exactly the same. Save your money for better headphones and/or learn to use EQ on whatever OS you use.
Ryder Rivera
Ah, thanks. I use vox for the music player on my mac. It has it's own EQ settings. Is that good enough for an EQ? I'm still researching ways to EQ the sound on the whole system itself instead of just one music player, but it's a start.
Jackson Long
I'd go with a magni3 and modi multibit instead. A lyr2+bifrost seems like an odd mismatch.
Connor Martin
DACs that do not suck are supposed to be transparent, so I have my doubts re: multibit. That said, the modi multibit is both cheaper and valued higher by reviewers, when compared to the bifrost multibit.
Jeremiah Brown
its not a mismatch.
Landon Davis
equalizer APO and peace gui would probably work better but I'm not familiar with your software.
Hunter Garcia
Oh, sorry. for some stupid reason I confused the lyr with the vali, which is magni-sized. Regardless, the bifrost multibit offers nothing over the modi multibit, besides looks. And why do you want tubes so badly? Re: pic, have you been to the schittr?
Alexander Johnson
I'll have to look it up. At first glance it seems that it's harder to come by decent EQ software for the mac than on windows, so I'll have to do more homework.
As far as tubes, idk, maybe a different sound I guess to try it out. Currently have a solid state, so just wanted to try a change out. Even then, I was thinking of getting the option that had both the tubes and solid state option.
I'm bored basically, and wanted to try new flavors out, if you know what I mean.
Jordan Miller
HD 800.
David Peterson
Lyr 2 is a hybrid tube design so it wouldn't be as "tubey" as the Valhalla 2 or Bottlehead Crack.
Carter Mitchell
Yeah, I was looking at those too. I was thinking something that could be best of both worlds, since I'm thinking of selling my a20 amp if I got some kind of schiit stack, and I know the E-MUs wouldn't do well with the high output impedence of the amp.
Blake Hill
MA900 is significantly lighter and more comfortable.
Kayden Lopez
But vastly inferior for EQ based on the HD 800's consistent fit.
Jacob Lee
I have two pairs of headphones. One for my laptop and one other for my mobile phone. Why don't they play the sound on each others device? Can I fix that? My phone headphones are kind of annoying me.
Aaron Morris
I am a gigantic faggot and like abnormal amounts of bass, so much that I can't stand 'flat' and neutral sounding studio headphones. I was looking for a pair of headphones from a decently reputable brand that has much more bass punch than normal yet still has decent mids and highs and came across these Custom One Pro headphones from Beyerdynamic: amazon.com/beyerdynamic-Custom-Headphones-Accessory-Microphone/dp/B00PK2LJ4E/
What interested me was a switch on the cans themselves to change the level of bass you want. I know they aren't going to be as 'true' sounding as the 770Pro or whatever but does anyone have any experience with these? What does Sup Forums think?
Caleb Reed
they're good. Especially for your applications.
Owen Russell
How do they compare to the other "bassy" headphones in their lineup? What's the difference other than the switch?
Not being a dick, just want to know.
Anthony Collins
Most "bassy" headphones overbake the bass. I'm not going to call them balanced by any means, but the mids are still there. They're v shaped, but not a butchering of the fqr in a manner like the vmoda and Dr dre beats do. They also have excellent sub bass, most "basshead" cans are just focused on mid bass and slam. These dig deep.
The build quality is also really nice, and like most beyerdynamic headphones they're comfy af
Parker Cooper
That's good to know. I was kind of torn on them because they are from a reputable brand but they seem to have a gimmicky theme with the bass switch and removable side plates so I had no idea what to think about them.
Caleb Rogers
I wouldn't say the MA900 has an inconsistent fit. In fact, I'd say the giant gap pictured here likely stabilizes bass response by making sound leak from between the earpads and the head a moot point.
Robert Brooks
Don't they have that feature where you can customize the look of the cups with plates and such?
Jonathan Edwards
Nevermind, you said it.
Adrian Martin
no worries, if you decide to get them I hope you'll enjoy it.
thoughts? these will be my first time getting open headphones
Mason Gonzalez
they are good but the microphonics make them wildly overpriced
Chase Price
good for the price
Brayden Rivera
they're a great entry level open back headphone. They can be fairly bright though and lack sub-bass. The soundstage is wide, image is good, and mids are great.
Blake Ward
I couldnt decide between closed or open back, so i bought the mass drop fostex thx00 ebony and a pair of monoproce m1060s. Am i going to regret this?
Kevin Thompson
i wasnt going to get a microphone.
>They can be fairly bright though and lack sub-bass.
im not a audiophile so i dont know what you mean by bright .I listen to mainly classical so lack of bass is fine with me
Hunter Richardson
microphonics are when you hit the cord or something and it translates into audio signal that you can hear.
if you're sitting perfectly still they are the best IEMs I own, but if you're walking around or doing literally anything else, you'll hear your movement over the music.
Justin Thomas
>microphonics my b i have dyslexia so i read that incorrectly.
Ill be using it for home use anyway. But i will keep that in mind
Jackson Perez
Not the person you're replying to but that would be a deal breaker since I would only use them while being active.
Caleb Reyes
>open back headphones >active
Yeah that may be a bad idea. And by bright, I mean that the high frequencies are very glaring and occasionally overpowering.
I suggest iems for active use which I assume you mean exercise or working. Kz zs5/zs6 are good.
Joseph Evans
IEM's not open back headphones tard.
Jace Perry
hf5 are open back? how would that even work
Owen Murphy
I didn't realize he was replying to a different person, sorry
I fucked up, totally different conversation.
Juan Kelly
y/n?
Ryan Garcia
Pleb, stick to speakers. DACs can and do sound different. All the ones you think "sound the same" are probably lifeless. Get a decent DAC with some challenging music and you'll know what I'm talking about.
>inb4 a/b testing I hear no difference
Isaac Anderson
>DACs can and do sound different...
Ryder Cooper
By all objective measurements that can be taken from dacs they sound the same when well designed. Even the analog sections provide the same signal to the amplification equipment.
I've heard every single major "high end" dac at the new York audio show for 3 years in a row now. They almost never sound different. If I ask them to play the same song on a high end cd player and then the digital file being streamed to a dac on the exact same system, it sounds exactly the same even though the cd player and dac used completely different dac chips. Any dac that sounds different is badly designed and/or not transparent. Headphones as well, there's always a headphone section of the show and dacs never make a significant difference through the same headphones and amps.
The most difference you'll get in sound quality is headphones and amplification and that's only if the headphone is insensitive or has a low impedence.
Jack Reyes
A headphone clip attached to your collar will solve the microphonics issue, as will wearing the cable over your ear as pictured here.
Thomas Perry
>dacs sound different >chips that measure the same and analog output that measures the same sounds different >source: my ass and my post purchase rationalization
Ryan Murphy
Definitely.
Wyatt Baker
>Budget Not over 30€ >Location Greece >Source LG G3 >Type of headphone IEM, wireless bluetooth >Comfort level Best of both worlds? >Sound signature neutral >Past headphones LG quadbeat 2, LG quadbeat 3 (present)
I'd recommend the Custom Studios over those because the earpads are much more comfortable.
Jayden Ortiz
>actually describing DACs as "gooey"
Ryan Martinez
>resolving >expansive >grainier >digital >useless adjectives to describe sound quality of dacs that all measure the same within given parameters >schiit yggy is a good value and definitely not an engineering dick measuring contest >schiit Loki on a dac list
nice memetastic list you got there, have any hard objective proof of the superior sound quality for any of these?
I find it hilarious the lampizator is considered poor performance and value. The one dac I found to sound different was a tube dac from the lampizator showroom where they were using the same pair of lowthers I had heard earlier. Not different in a good way, it was absolutely awful and distorting heavily.
Turns out it failed 5 minutes after I left and they stopped playing music for the rest of the show because they couldn't fix the output section and their one set of tubes popped.
Gabriel Ramirez
mad your fake fiio didn't even make the list
Colton Campbell
>>schiit Loki on a dac list To be fair, what's loki if not a DSD dac?
Caleb Price
Oh I'm absolutely seething that my $70 dac/amp that uses a tried and true texas instruments chip combo didn't make a list that puts a $2300 meme dac as a "great value."
I forgot they made that dsd dac under the Loki name. I thought it was referring to their new 3 band equalizer which is also called loki
Lincoln Smith
>I thought it was referring to their new 3 band equalizer which is also called loki schiit.com/news/news/welcome-back-eq-introducing-loki-mini Christ, this is new and I hadn't seen it yet :X Looking into it now. The MDR-7506 are sounding decent now. I guess "break in", i.e. my brain compensating its FR to HD600 target.