Is Ryzen really better or is it just a meme

is Ryzen really better or is it just a meme

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The 1600 is certainly good value. 6c/12t for $200 including a cooler.

Ryzen 1600 is the best value according to my calculations
and if you want single thread performance Ryzen 3 is pretty good

intel remains 4c/8t king so long as you buy the only good 4c/8t i.e., the 7700k, but ryzen brings hedt and >4 cores to the mainstream for less cost and better performance

it's like asking if intel hedt is better, objectively it is in most cases, but if all you want is a 4c/8t cpu to play cpu locked games that STILL don't multithread properly then even intel hedt doens't make sense

Well Ryzen isn't the gaming king but overall it's better value than intels offerings atm. That will change with coffee lake though.

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I have a Ryzen 1800x

I literally never have to close a single program, I can watch 2 streams at 1080p while playing a triple AAA title at ultra settings and rendering video.

shits cash

I'd say the 1700 is pretty swell if you overclock it.
That being said, 1800x if you wanna do all the things and not worry about heat stress, that chip will probably last for a decade.

I got a 20% jump in framerates coming from a i7-4790k.

>paying for MOAR COARS than you actually need
>still can't touch intels single coar performance, which 99% of programs have been designed for since the dawn of the microprocessor
real smart

In what games? For cpu depending games Haswell oc'ed is still better than ryzen, The minimums are better though

1600 here
Everything is as smooth as your mom's bottom, including the latest games.

single core is worse and you have to pair it with a GPU
price/perf and multi core is the only redeeming quality of Ryzen

Ryzen 1700 y pure comfy user

>t. 1700 user

>what is multitasking

jump of the tallest building in your area

>everything but single core is the only redeeming quality of ryzen
I wonder who could be behind this post?

I have an i5 4690k and the most CPU intensive shit I do is video games and I figure I have no reason to switch yet.

to be clear I mean it's like asking if intel hedt is better than intel's own 4c/8t lineup

OP why the fuck are you here asking this stupid question when you could literally go check the benchmarks, compare prices and see for yourself? Regardless, as of now, Intel for playing games and Ryzen for everything else. Avoid 4 cores if gaming cause 6 core Intel cpu's are coming. That's it

>That will change with coffee lake though.
>Have to buy a new mobo
>better value

single core still matters a lot considering a lot of applications are still built to serve corelets

>more cores than you'll ever actually use
oh you plan on rendering three videos while jerking off to trannies while playing the latest shitty rushed videogame do you?
k.. but i'm going to link the world to this post before i do it.

Not him, but I do a lot of rending and yes I plan on browsing or watching a movie while waiting for my stuff to finish.

Kek this genuinely made me laugh because it's accurate

Intel is also better for AutoDesk stuff.

depends Ryzen is better by dollar for performance.
But, the shitty thing is that games are not currently optimized to take advantage of Ryzens 8 cores, thus struggling to keep up.

It's a great chip though, and is the new standard

I have unironically watched shemale porn while playing the witcher 2 and watching 2 twitch streams at 1080p

so yeh go fuck yourself

I was called a retard for buying an 1800X because price/performance ratio. It seems Sup Forums has been overrun with iPhone fags to the point that they no longer understand the concept of multi-tasking,

The general population of this site only builds PCs for gaymes

i never really believed in shills until this ryzen shit was spammed everywhere

Yeah, well, that's pretty obvious now.

>Suddenly AMD can afford shills.
That's not what you were saying 6 months ago.

is intel a meme now?
lol

>I literally never believed in shills until people were enthusiastic about a a CPU company other than Intel
Wew lad

6300 here and still working faster than i thought
with normal word processing, it's blazing fast
plays ow with 120 fps no problem and fallout 4 on high with 60 fps
its pretty good, i dont see the need to upgrade to 1600, its prolly a placebo to get consumer to buy more shit they didnt need to anyway

>4 applications
>Could have been done with a quad core
You played yourself.

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>>paying for MOAR COARS than you actually need
>>still can't touch intels single coar performance, which 99% of programs have been designed for since the dawn of the microprocessor
>real smart
Yes ~90%of programs have been written for single core since the dawn of computing, but for ~90%of computing they only had single core cpus (for end users) not that multiple core are commen place more and more programs are going multi core. Would you also say Just cause 99%of TV programming has been sub HD resolution is not a reason not buy a HD TV

>implying im not on discord
>implying im not broadcasting to twitch
>implying im not listening to lo fi hip hop on a chrome tab
>implying I i'm not running a vm for programming homework

hello corelet

What if I'm looking to build an entirely new rig?

>Ryzen 1600 $200

So, if your budget is high enough to cover a $200 CPU, a mobo for it and new RAM, and it's in one of the categories that it performs well in (check benchmarks), it's fantastic.

If any of those things aren't true, then it's not.

How is this hard?

Me? I'm a cheap ass, and don't know anyone personally who runs the Ryzen 3 1200. I don't want to have to throw out half my build if it ends up sucking, so I would go for an intel 7100 with DDR4 RAM. Despite having half the core count, the 7100 is (slightly) less power hungry, and achieves the same performance in benchmarks, and I'm fairly confident I can run it for years and years, and it won't burn itself up.

Will Covefe lake mandate new mobos?

Since Sup Forums brought to my attention Intel are kikes I've been considering Ryzen and a new mobo. Would it be worth the transition if I'm judenfrei forever after? Do you think AMD is a solid investment as far as a platform and its future prospects?

>Intel
>not requiring a new mobo

>shemale porn

Fucking degenerate

yeah, well, thats just like, your opinion man

>is it better
Yes. But it might not be visible immediately. Luckily for ryzen owners the effort doesn't lie with the broader developer community (some still fail to embrace SIMD, SOA, threading...) but with compiler authors, loosely put.
Read this:
agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=838
Or for the brainlets:
pcworld.com/article/3176053/components-processors/amds-su-says-patches-will-boost-ryzen-gaming-performance-it-will-only-get-better.html
Basically this claim:
>AMD’sclaims that it had elevated Ryzen’s instructions per clock more than 50 percent over the previous generation didn’t match up with its, well, surprising lack of performance when tested in real-world gaming.
Is proven true by tests by a reputable independent source (Agner). And it's well achievable if you just aim to build software for the ryzen platform in your compilers. And no, compilers aren't magic that somehow know every potential architecture and magically works your high level C code into a perfect fit. Work isn't done yet.

got a 1600 and have no regrets. cheaper than getting intel and performs.

Really dumb question
Which one is better an asus 1080ti or an evga 1080ti?

Latter is $200(converted to USD) cheaper than the former.

It's not that surprising that AMD, a company who hasn't released shit worth talking about in a decade almost (i guess the agpu stuff was kinda worth talking about for lower-end computers) releases something new that is actually matching the current landscape and has more future promise than it's sole competitor?

Also you're fucking retarded if you didn't believe in shills. Can't have been here for more than a year or two.

For gaming is a weird discussion.
You're getting less frame rate than a intel part, but you're getting less stalls and judders than a intel part, as the extra cores pretty much guarantees windows won't steal a core being used for the game for no good reason.

Frankly op. Reading this thread. Aside from a few nuggets covered in shit you'd be better off going by gut feeling. These people are useless. Don't bother asking them. These are people who'd respect 'cuda cores' as a measure of performance.

EVGA has far better CS.
There's pretty much no difference other than that.

If you're not in the US don't bother with EVGA their GPUs are always shit and the company is only renowned for their RMA services.

I bought a Ryzen 5 1600 for $199 and a GTX 1080 for $449 (actually got an additional $90 off from this as well because fuck my credit card company). I think the 1600/1080 combination is the best bang for the buck right now for anyone doing 1440 or 4K.

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What if you don't?
What if you just want to change the cpu?

>any kind of legal porn is more or less degenerate than another

not how that works, pal

>These are people who'd respect 'cuda cores' as a measure of performance.
... said the cuda corelet

is it worth getting the 1080 now or should i wait for the next line of GPUs?

it meme trust me babe

>better
No, Intel has an upto 8% (in AVX heavy) and typically 2-3% (non-AVX) IPC advantage(so single thread, clock-for-clock, Intel is ~3% better in most things) and their clockspeeds are routinely higher too.
>is it a meme
Certainly not, if money is no object, Intel is the clear winner, but most people have a budget to adhere to and Ryzen is the winner here for most people since it delivers far more per dollar than Intel does.

If you've got some very specific single-threaded application that needs maximum performance, go Intel.
If money is no object and you want the best performance possible, go Intel
else, Ryzen.

Next refresh is "supposed" (i.e., no one fucking knows) to be a 1070 Ti which sits between the 1070 and 1080. I say buy a 1080 now if you can get it between $425-475. I see it go for this fairly regularly **if you're setting price alerts and watching appropriate places**. You can also buy one second hand generally for around $420-430. I think the $449 I paid for it is a sweet spot for the moment, but like I said, I also did some additional creative accounting to get an extra $90 off (my ultimate price was $~360) so I am a little biased to feel better about the purchase.

>the intel fanboi(pussy) is threatened

toppest kek

yeah, that's the rumor that i've read, too. i'll just get a 1080 if the price is right.

>all that technology
>still using bash
I guess some things never improve.

We don't know when Nvidia is going to roll out volta, they are in no rush since vega isn't very competitive.

Oy vey Shlomowitz, good post!
Your control of the got is excellent, I'm giving you .05 sheckles for this post

Another good point here. I decided to buy a 1080 because Vega 56/64 are not competitive. That means Nvidia is not going to have any pressure for competitive prices or big performance gains in new cards. If you can get a 1070/1080 for a good price now I think it is a good time to buy. You just have to be careful with the minefield of inflated prices and "sales" as a result of the cryptocurrency market. Ideally I think the cards are "worth" $~350 for a 1070 and ~$450 for a 1080 **for now**. Getting these prices will require some sales and promos normally though I do see flash sales around this occasionally.

In the USA - EVGA
Outside, it's a gamble - EVGA support outside USA is shit, but ASUS can be even worse depending on your location.

Just google "ASUS RMA review"
Replace with EVGA and compare, buy whichever one has better support.

>Me? I'm a cheap ass, and don't know anyone personally who runs the Ryzen 3 1200
I owned one for just 3 weeks now.
Asked me anything.

We're yet to see half of VEGA actually working (which is hilarious, how can you fuck a launch up that bad) but we still don't know if it'll EVER work on this hardware (might not be a driver bug, might be a hardware bug)

25 Ghz u are gealous lol

>Intel Pentium Upgrade Card
>...
>it's fucking real
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Upgrade_Service

Also how does Ryzen do on linux or other situations where Intel isn't rigging shit with their compiler?

>7100 over r3 1200
enjoy your corelet.

Very well.

Also Intel compiler shit is largely a thing of the past now, ICC is actually pretty slow compared to MSVC even now, so less people use it.
Even cinebench (for R15) no longer uses ICC.

that's RAM doing the job for you dipshit

I'd rather kill myself if I ever own an AMD product.

Then you should kill yourself, as you value your own life so little.

>Also Intel compiler shit is largely a thing of the past now
Oh, that's good to hear. I couldn't believe Intel was getting away with that crap. When did people start moving away from ICC?

Switching to R5 1600 and an SSD made me realize how stone age-tier my prior phenom build actually was, it's a miracle i got any shit done on it at all and that it lasted that long too

Now i just need some replacement for chromium, hopefully waterfox64 will be decent enough

Should I wait for Ryzen2 or Ryzen+?

if you can still do what you need to do with your current machine, wait for it. if no, just get ryzen now.

Vutvnotvfovlonhg

t. Andy D Bryant

>This guy build thousands of computers. He has done this before most of you snot noses kids was a twinkle in your daddys eye.
>Still uses Intel and recommends Intel
I know what I choose .

rekt

It's by no means universally faster and better in every regard, but it offers competing performance and strong value against contemporary intel products.

Good goy.

They will fix it, eventually.
Probably late October.

It has better value per dollar spent on it.

And for heavily multithreaded stuff (not gaming) it is better because you get more cores for your cash (although Coffee lake changes alot of that).


If you're on a budget Ryzen is the way to go

>tfw it's not even shopped
>laughinggrills.jpg

To be fair he did claim some used Integrated Graphics to cut costs down.

>Comparing 7700K to R5 1500X

4690 fag here as well. Comfy af but might be a couple of years till I jump to Ryzen.

so, just wait (tm)?

No, buy whatever is best for you right now.
Wait is stupid tier.

Worth upgrading from a i5 760 to i5 8600k?

Depends for what.
Gaming it looks to be very good, but wait for reviews.

Get Ryzen 1700 . 16 threads will last a decade

I didn't believe there were actual paid shills on Sup Forums until I saw this post.