Google and YouTube are only few months away before allowing every video on their site to have DRM. From a leaked info on Twitter, they will implement it to give copyright holders ways to control how their content is used.
- they will be able to prevent ad skipping and ad blocking - you will not be able to watch YT videos on non-approved browsers and platforms - you will not be able to use mpv or VLC to watch YT videos - you will not be able to save videos - they will be able to limit the number of times you watch the video (to prevent excessive music playing)
like DRM will change anything, people will crack it or find workarounds in a matter of hours
Jackson Scott
source; can't find anything
Ryan Bennett
hooktube is always an option
Kayden Cruz
Netflix DRM still hasn't been cracked. People record it by using cracked HDMI passthrough boxes and then re-encode streams.
Aaron Gonzalez
Haha nice job google. people totally aren't going to get fed up with this and move to another platform or anything.
Luis Perez
>hooktube lel'd. and how will it fetch streams from YT when it's DRMed?
Noah Myers
>- they will be able to prevent ad skipping and ad blocking Sounds fair. Why should you get free shit? As long they share rewards with content creators in a more fair way, it's a great step.
>- you will not be able to watch YT videos on non-approved browsers and platforms >- you will not be able to use mpv or VLC to watch YT videos Stupid but unlikely to have any impact for most people.
>- you will not be able to save videos Surprised it took them so long. It's not a good development but kinda given in this world of copyright cancer.
>- they will be able to limit the number of times you watch the video Now that'd be an idiotic move that will turn users away. Doubt they are that stupid and even if they are, they will adjust it after the backlash. Probably.
Wyatt Price
The future is now.
Jack Cook
Because the method is simpler, hence there is no need to waste effort on cracking it.
Sebastian Robinson
>Stupid but unlikely to have any impact for most people.
Impacts me, I ssh into my pi to listen to albums in my living room.
Alexander Peterson
Well, user, you're not most people. The market doesn't give a shit about the individual and Google probably expect you to buy their speaker thingy.
Lincoln Williams
>Because the method is simpler It isn't simpler. it takes much longer to re-encode a stream than to just save it. you also lose quality in the re-encoding process.
Ryan Johnson
I'd immediately stop using YouTube. But it's unlikely they'll stop people from downloading vids and audio.
Less than 15% of people block YouTube ads or use alternative apps to view vids adless (like MPV or NewPipe). This isn't an issue though. Even if they stopped doing that, YouTube would still lose money. Google loses a lot of money on YouTube because there are too many people watching videos. They can't pay the server costs simply with ads. This is why YouTube Red is a thing and why they will limit non-Red users. This is why they want to squeeze all the money they can from YouTube. This is why they're doing this bullshit. One, they will get more ad views and get more money on ads. And two, they will kick a lot of viewers this way thus removing a lot of leechers to reduce the losses on bandwidth.
But they're retarded. Excessive music playing can be solved if they make an audio only option for songs, like NewPipe has. Implement it on their site, but keep ads rolling as if they were album art. That would be much more logical.
>From a leaked info on Twitter No fucking shit. Various people said how things were going to beat that rate as they had been, so is this really news now?
Jeremiah Butler
Google wouldn't have bought JewTube if it weren't profitable.
Brody Robinson
Fuck jewtube
Lucas Jones
>muh nuclear family
lol
Xavier Adams
Yeah, no cracking group is going to spend time breaking it when a simple hardware bypass like that works. So what if rippers have to spend a bit of time reencoding and a near imperceptible quality loss occurs.
Ryder Ortiz
It was profitable for them then. It's not profitable now and hasn't been in a few years.
Jonathan Edwards
>people on Sup Forums unironically believe anyone, including themself, will stop using youtube because of this
Jose Kelly
Fucking google an google shills. FUCK YOU GOOGLE
Samuel Sanders
Meh. If they make it inconvenient to watch videos then I just won't watch them. There's so much other shit to waste one's time on.
Kayden Reyes
Jewtube ads still have to be loaded via different domains so that the ads' owners can verify that they're actually getting clicked you mongoloids, DRM can't solve that. Ads injected into a DRM'd video stream will never gain mass adoption cause other ad networks/resellers/buyers will never accept it, they're kikes that first of all don't wanna get jewed by other jews.
Jacob Cooper
>Why should you get free shit? Because investment banks throw money at companies like Google all day erryday, using shekels they get from the Federal Reserve.
Youtube loses $2 billion every year. The costs are being socialized. Why should the profits be privatized? This is how Youtube is still the undisputed king of online video despite being schlerotic and abusive in execution of its demonetization and limited state bullshit.
Not even a socialist myself but fair is fair, if Google gets free shit we should, too. Else, end the Fed already.
Asher Rogers
ARCHIVE ALL YOUR FAVOURITE VIDEOS NOW
Jason Nguyen
low iq please leave
Aaron Young
get the fuck out defeatist
Thomas Campbell
>when your IQ so high you don't even need to refute arguments
Jordan James
>he doesn't know about the PLAYREADY exploit
Luis Walker
no more links.
Andrew Flores
>Because investment banks throw money at companies like Google all day erryday Almost like these companies make a profit even though parts of their business like YT don't.
>Why should the profits be privatized? Because they are earned by private entreaties. Who obviously have to pay tax, which in turn pays back to community. (These companies evading tax is often the fault of a shitty tax system and just like the amount of tax they should pay, that's another topic)
Besides, it's less about Google and more about content creators. Google isn't going pay them out of the goodness of their heart and given it pretty much has a video upload monopoly, these people can't just switch platforms. Forced ads will ensure they'll get some return for their work.
Daniel Cooper
t. child of divorced parents
Have fun being at a disadvantage in nearly everything, faggot.
Luke White
But I need to save videos. How can I avoid this?
Nathan Fisher
Even if it isn't, they would've sold it. Assuming it isn't, they are keeping it for their political agenda.
Owen Carter
He's a mixed-race child born of a polyamorous relationship who was raised by a single mother you nuclearfambigot.
Jonathan Adams
i hope with all of this they end killing their own video platform, we need something new, was a fun ride youtube, until google slowly corrupted you into a TV obviously
Nicholas Davis
>How can I avoid this? You can't. That;s the whole point behind DRM. Thank Goolag, Netflix, Faceshit, Time Baners-Lee and the rest of the evil bastards who voted for this shit.
Connor Reyes
It's almost like that kind of bullshit happens sooner or later whenever government gets involved in disseminating information, either directly or through keeping it on a financial life support leash. And that any upstart competitor like Vid.me is operating at a systemic disadvantage because it's not getting governmentbux.
:thinkingface:
Henry Edwards
how will i save my foot fetish videos now? can i grab them from ram?
>Almost like these companies make a profit even though parts of their business like YT don't.
>be Google >make tons of money off of advertising served along search >get federalbuxx from investment banks >dominate entire other industries while operating at a loss within them for year after year It's almost like Google is operating like a trust and using predatory pricing to cut off oxygen to competition.
>Why should the profits be privatized? >Because they are earned by private entreaties. Other private entities pay taxes too and don't get quasi-government funding from investment banks. Why does Google deserve an advantage over them?
Ayden White
You honestly believe people care that much about content creators? The second they leave for another site is the second they're replaced. Normies will continue to get their cringe video fix and nothing will change.
Mason Carter
I'm the user you're replying to and I didn't say anything about content creators one way or the other.
Noah Carter
>It's almost like Google is operating like a trust and using predatory pricing to cut off oxygen to competition. And it's none of their business if the guberment doesn't have laws against that or anyone to sue.
>Why does Google deserve an advantage over them? Because it's a much better deal to invest in Google. You're posting about YT loss like it matters. They make enough money with their important services to offset it and are a growing company. Who wouldn't invest into that.
Daniel Rogers
good. this further reduces an already low chance of me accidentally watching a clickbait video
John White
>investing in tech stocks l m a o
Joshua Sullivan
What's your point. In the end, I still want the person who made a video I watched and enjoyed to make some cash, but not enough to buy merch or give them patreon cash. Watching an ad makes it convenient, hence a great solution.
Youtube already have DRM, just not a very good one. And it's a lost battle for the get go, as your browser can always lie to youtube.
Benjamin Price
people like you, in my honest opinion, should not reproduce.
Brody King
The big 3 are on a constant rise for about a decade now.
Jordan Carter
I can't wait for the FAANG meme to die.
Alexander Nelson
hahaha holy shit they really are trying to kill off their own products
Jacob Bailey
If I can't block ads there is absolutely no way in hell I'm using youtube anymore. Video ads are fucking aids
Brayden Murphy
I remember when YouTube was a place 2 share content freely without all this bs of paid YouTube's they demanded and Google gave and they bitched they need to get real jobs and lives internet should be a free space nothing else
Austin Anderson
I don't mind the five second ads. I hate the unskippable 15-30 second ads.
Evan Wilson
May be a honest opinion but doesn't add too much to the topic. So, what's even the point of sharing it?
Paid by?
Jace Martinez
It's even worse than TV ads, they manage to make the youtube ads even more intrusive, I remember when advertisers even tried to disable sound control so you couldn't turn them down, like holy shit these "people" involved in advertising are a fucking cancer; no even that word doesn't fully encompass just how fucking toxic and socially destructive they are.
Hunter Fisher
This exact thing has been being said since 2007
Benjamin Perez
Youtube doesn't make money, they should kill themselves by pissing off everyone or wait until google shuts this failed project down.
Jacob Thomas
Here are my predictions:
1. They won't enable this for all videos, just the bullshit commercial channels that aren't worth watching anyway. (The type that are jewish enough to have hard-coded ads) 2. youtube-dl will be able to decode the videos anyway
Nathaniel Richardson
Netflix has been cracked. 4K has not though, but that's a niche. Everything else per 1080p and downward can be easily downloaded as straight, unmodified files from their servers.
Xavier Morris
Video ads don't need to be clicked as long as your forced to watch them. Twitch already has unblockable ads in the HTML5 streams. The only way I find to get around it is to use the flash player and now the page freezes when I try to watch it with flash so now I need to use livestreamer to stream it a local media player.
Owen Jones
Lol, just mute the sound when the ad goes on. Idiots.
Dylan Ortiz
then it's really never been about money, it's about control they're pissing away millions just to control what you can see and hear, that's ultimately what it's about
next phase is using the government to shut down competition
Maybe something could be done about it if the social engineers didn't seem to have infinite money to do everything
Nicholas Scott
Why does it even matter what YouTube does? How have we not rid ourselves of dependence on it? YouTube is an inherently unreliable model Anybody can upload as much of anything as they want forever AND make shekels? All that Google did is consolidate video creation, and it's all they have ever done
Austin Peterson
>they will be able to prevent ad skipping and ad blocking There will be a workaround in a week.
>you will not be able to watch YT videos on non-approved browsers and platforms What is user agent spoofing?
>you will not be able to use mpv or VLC to watch YT videos There will be a workaround in maybe a couple of months.
>you will not be able to save videos If it is possible to view a video, it is possible to save one.
>they will be able to limit the number of times you watch the video (to prevent excessive music playing) And let me guess, they plan on trusting the client to give them correct information about how many times they have watched the video?
DRM or not, anything that is in the hands of the client is fully controlled by the client. So long as I have administrative privileges on a computer, I can modify any memory address in any process at any time, and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Browsers can be modified to get around these problems. Hell, even Chrome will be modified with unauthorized extensions to get around all of this.
Leo Robinson
Crack open youtube-dl and start downloading the videos you want. There are some prett good educational videos on Youtube that aren't on any other platform, so it's worth giving it a shot.
Nathan Bailey
>rumours >>>/wccftech/
Benjamin Ramirez
>So long as I have administrative privileges on a computer Don't worry, google and the othe companies are hard at work removing that privilege
William Cooper
Preferable is to let the video play immediately without waiting for the ad. It's not about not wanting to see or hear it. It's about not having your time wasted.
Chase Brown
Good luck with that. I run Linux.
Also, Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, and you get an administrative account on that out of the box. They need that account to install drivers, and if you can install a driver, you can do anything.
Ayden Morales
>Is Youtube kill?
well i scrap all "my subscriptions" new videos links every morning then export them to a .m3u playlist and play them in MPV media player , ad free. so i guess youtube is dead for me now.
but 99.9% of users won't even feel the change.
Tyler Cruz
Google's plan since Jan 1 >Demonitize the normies who aren't some major studio, record label, or television network >Start bringing in the Jew. AKA: Youtube TV >Disable features such as allowing links to other sources of income >Soon you wont be able to watch an embedded video without being logged in to Google globally in your browser >Soon only videos from "trusted partners" (hollywood) will be able to be embedded at all >Soon there will be no "You" in YouTube >Soon it will just be "Tube: Televsion and Movies"
Elijah Taylor
And all of the video creators who are not "trusted partners" will have to move somewhere else. Wherever that "somewhere else" is, will be the new YouTube.
Elijah Cooper
This.
Jayden Watson
>but 99.9% of users won't even feel the change.
Most youtube users watch "trending now" videos or suggested videos from youtube homepage, tailored by google for their "needs", I bet they even enjoy advertisement. Indeed they won't feel the change, they'll embrace it.
I feel as though everyone who's scared of DRM needs to read this.
>The fundamental problem with DRM is that you're giving somebody a locked box and the key used to open it. You're distributing a copy of the key with the lock.
Someone will always find a way to crack it. It is literally defective by design.
Carter Adams
Except it: >will have shitty infrastructure because it doesn't have the backing of CIAFlre >Every majorjews network and academia will condemn it for housing "hateful content" >This publicitity will scare normies from using or uploading to it >It will be ddossed, DMCA'd, denied access to CIAflare services, DNS pulled, and hostless
Aiden Lopez
Until processors and video cards with phone home botnets you can't uninstall comply with DRM. >suddenly you can't rip anything short of filming your monitor
Matthew Rogers
>This publicitity will scare normies from using or uploading to it
Except their favorite tubers won't be able to use YouTube, so they will have no choice but to use alternatives. Maybe we might even see multiple sites like this -- one for the "hate" content, and one for the normie shit.
Ethan Gutierrez
Now I realize that over the years I've become really youtube dependent.
I have over 600 subscriptions and watch this shit all day long, it has totally replaced my TV.
Cameron Diaz
Youtube is too big of a monopoly to fail now
Cameron Rogers
YouTube is perpetually failing
Jackson Cruz
It would take the collapse of google as a company to kill youtube. Unless the content creators normalfags love leave, they will continue to use youtube
Dominic Mitchell
This kills the youtube.
Dylan Powell
but it makes sense. now that DRM is a W3C standard and all the browsers are adding it, content copyright holders will demand access to it.
Juan Myers
No, AdNauseam is what kills Youtube. Run it.
John Myers
t. google shill
Matthew Cooper
The DRM key is somewhere in memory and I have ring 0 access. And for what it's worth, handling all DRM shit in ring -2 isn't going to work either. We've found vulnerabilities in Intel processors that allow ring 0 to escalate privileges.
Fixed it. The bigger and more dominant an organisation is, the weaker is becomes. Paradoxical but true.
Brody Parker
Adnauseam will fix Google and Youtube.
Caleb Kelly
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Julian Adams
ahah for every ad nauseam user there are 100.000 stupid kids binge watching taylor swift or lil wayne vidya clips all day every day
Hudson Peterson
Doesn't matter. Adnauseam poisons their data and fucks with the trust with advertisers. Only a small amount of Adnauseam users is needed to destroy the value.
Samuel Lee
next step they'll block you from installing non DRM browssers on closed source OSes so you can't watch DRM free streamings or shits like Kodi and the like.
they actually believe that if "pirates" can't watch free video on the internet they'll suddenly buy all their shit. that's cute.