If you want help: >State the budget and currency for your build >List purposes of build, e.g. gaming, video editing, or virtual machines >For monitors, include information like response time, refresh rate, resolution, size, and gfx card pairing
CPUs: >No i5s unless 50% discount >New i3s will be old i5 equivalents (4c/4t); new i5s and i7s will have +50% cores/threads >G4560 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPU >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Check your Mobo's QVL before buying RAM or look for user reports >Ryzen CPUs benefit a lot from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
GPUs: Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon), so using an old GPU or waiting to build may be a good idea right now. >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced gfx cards for 1080p; 6GB 1060 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 / 1080 - 1440p >GTX 1080Ti - 4K
General: >Consider a 240GB or larger SSD. >If you use Wifi, you will need a Wireless Network Adapter, either 2.4 or 5GHz
im going to try making a graph of temperatures and clockspeeds depending on voltage how could i do that without counting pixels in paint
Easton Cruz
wait for proper vega drivers, if they don't show up, wait for navi
use excel
Chase Fisher
I think I should really change my rig. In my opinion, the Graphics Card and motherboard are in need of a change, I should also add up more RAM. Or should I change the processor too?
Ryan King
first you do a full backup of those two drives if you haven't already
Josiah Davis
Before anything, consider upgrading from 1680x1050 16:10 monitors.
Samuel Baker
He's right the WD is kill. How is it even getting that hot?
David Scott
problem is i cant go under 3000mhz with ryzen master and changing freq in bios doesnt do shit got to 3ghz 0.9125v @40c under load
Dylan Jenkins
Which RX 560/550 is the best?
Daniel Brooks
Upgrade: my processor is in the K versiin, speccy doesnt show it But Iike 16:10 Its an used hd that was wiped multiple times bcuz the hackintosh had some problems
Asher Hill
backup the seagate one then, I had that exact model/size and it killed itself way too fast
Andrew Moore
which is more important for gaming cpu or gpu
Jaxson Green
both, but gpu is a bit more when 60hz gaming
Jason Cook
depends on resolution if you already have a system and are considering upgrading, open task manager for cpu usage and afterburner for gpuusage the one at 100% is most likely the bottleneck
also source games are cpu heavy and fxaa is good enough(even at 1024x1280)
Jaxson Jackson
buy sapphire vega when it gets released.
Ian Barnes
will cheaper memory limit the 1070ti from achieving 1080 performance under load?
Jack Allen
It's obviously not going to perform as well as a 1080. Nvidia are the most careful company around when it comes to segmenting their products and making sure you don't get something for nothing.
Aiden Ortiz
yeah, as said nvidia just wants to send out a vega 56 killer as fast as possible
Robert Scott
>it happened to me so it's a common thing! retard
Juan Ortiz
are there freesync/gsync monitors that aren't high refresh?
Wyatt Bell
seagate failure rates in certain models are (were) going through the roof, specially that model retard
Gabriel Green
wrong model nigger
Owen Morales
Going to start buying stuff for my build now, starting with the monitor. I've been considering the viewsonic XG2401. Is it any good for an 144hz monitor or should I look into something else?
Mason Reyes
how the fuck are ram prices so expensive...
Brody King
>expensive prices nice english, fag
Asher Young
There is nothing funny about pricey expenses.
Jonathan Collins
If I make a ryzen build now, will the motherboard still work for ryzen 2 next year?
James Taylor
>shitgate apologist
Evan Murphy
yeah, amd aren't kikes like intel and they support sockets for like 5+ years
Leo James
Yes.
Luke Allen
maybe but it may be missing new features that come out so it might not even matter
Jordan Rodriguez
I had plans to build new pc based on Ryzen in december, but is it worth to wait to february for Ryzen+?
should i buy windows 10 from the windows store? will it provide me a product key or will i have to use my microsoft account to use 10?
Benjamin Smith
Hey, what can I do to cut corners to make the cost go down. This is going to be a server essentially, and a portable gaming computer if I go away for the weekend.
tl:dw vrm coolings on all b350 boards suck dick without a proper airflow. if you're building a workstation and planning to use an 8 core on high clocks you want to get x370 instead.
Lucas Mitchell
Nothing.
Jaxon Richardson
he's right though. you should prioritize gpu, because next tier will ALWAYS give you more fps than a better cpu.
Lucas Jackson
t. shitgate apologist
Samuel Myers
At 1080p you will just be bottlenecking yourself with ryzen. also ryzen cant always keep up with a 1080 ti in most games so his upgrade path for graphics cards is non existant. Only if the op had a need for productivity then the 1600 would be somethimg to buy. And you could save money and buy a 1070 or 1080.
Nathaniel Lopez
r5 -> b350 r7 -> x370
Anthony Martin
i feel like everyone already knew this
b350 is fine for 4/6 core overclocking, anything else needs to go up to x370
stock runs ice cold regardless
Xavier Campbell
Ive been telling this to everyone but you autists never listen and decide to cheap out on the mobo
Cooper Hughes
>pls buy coffin lake and don't forget to change the motherboard every year
Zachary Wood
Wew, I got R7 with a B350 because you guys recommended me to avoid X370 unless I reallyy need the PCI-E lanes or double M.2 slots.
Gavin Ortiz
Most people are going for the R5s anyway.
Evan Stewart
are you overclocking above 3.8?
Ryder Phillips
Not yet, I'm still sitting on the Wraith Spire. I actually tried going up to 3.8, I think, it was stable and I could run benchmarks but once I started torture testing I saw core temp jump up to 85+ degrees after 20 minutes or so, not very good, so I just decided to skip OCing until I get a proper CPU fan.
I have an R5 case with two fans, and I can install a couple of more fans in it if that helps.
Austin Perry
people need to learn you don't trust ANY storage unless its been running for 6 months after that it should statistically last 5 years after 5 years treat the storage as tertiary nice to have but don't rely on
Jayden Rivera
yes or no?
Jonathan Cooper
You don't need to because it won't last you one year...
Christopher Edwards
>his upgrade path for graphics cards is non existant but you CAN upgrade an amd cpu grafics cards keep their utility/value longer than cpus
Christian Wright
>3tb Why?
Angel Hall
AMD cpus are not fast enough to keep up with the ever growing high end graphics cards. Upgrading a 1600 to a 1700 will not even give you a fps improvement. The next generation of AMD cpus will not offer an increase in fps enough to warrant dropping another $200. As well as there is no guarantee that your current mobo will be supported even though AMD plans to.
Nathaniel Jackson
>1.4V on CPU socket Isn't that excessive?
Easton Sanchez
My backlog is big.
Blake Ross
my nigga
Brandon Diaz
Let's see Zen+ and Zen 2 then. What if your thoughs aren't true?
Michael Campbell
Budget? Purpose?
Owen Phillips
>The next generation of AMD cpus will not offer an increase in fps enough to warrant dropping another $200 >there is no guarantee that your current mobo will be supported Stop confusing AMD with Intel.
Blake Brooks
>AMD cpus are not fast enough to keep up with the ever growing high end graphics cards we literally do not know that. ryzen is their first new generation. >there is no guarantee that your current mobo will be supported even though AMD plans to. amd confirmed it multiple times. they are not in position to lie about things like this
Dominic Russell
>budget ~700-750
>purpose CS:GO and anime.
Chase Taylor
What are the chances of a perfectly working cpu just stops working? I'm thinking of buying a new motherboard because my PC just stopped working. Since I'm not upgrading which one would be better : h81 or a b85? I know they are matx I just don't want to spend a lot of money on this.
Parker Nguyen
So uh, will I be able to OC my R7 with a B350 MSI Tomahawk motherboard if I'll get a huge air cooler to blow cold air all over my CPU and hopefully the surrounding VRAMs?
James Powell
don't pump 1.4v through it and you'll be good
Jordan Long
Doesn't AMD not recommend anything higher than 1.35, anyway?
And damn, I feel like you guys coaxed me into a meme with the Ryzen but the current Intel CPUs with their temperature problems aren't making me too enthusiastic either.
Connor Ward
i mean, yeah
that doesn't mean you can't without serious cooling
just because ryzen is a meme doesn't mean its not good
Dylan Foster
Well 7700 starts ast 4.2 GHz and with Ryzen you'll struggle to hit 4.0 (and won't with most chips), and seems like Intel chips still have better IPC. But then you have a CPU with 4 cores which might not be enough, too. I'm not sure I've made the right choice, but it's too late so whatever.
Justin Cooper
negligible difference in fps for 7700k and ryzen excels at everything else
Liam Thomas
Okay, HDD questions.
1. I've heard that reliability-wise 1Tb > 2Tb > 4Tb since the latter has too much plates. Is that really a significant factor? Because I'm looking at Hitachi 2Tb and 4Tb offerings and 2Tb isn't all that much cheaper than 4Tb, and I could always use extra storage.
2. I'm looking at these HDDs: >4 Tb Hitachi Deskstar NAS v2 >4 Tb Hitachi Ultrastar 7K6000 From what I understand, Deskstar is the home PC/server version, Ultrastar is the enterprise version. Will Ultrastar be more reliable? Should I just get Deskstar? The reviews say the disk gets pretty hot, is that going to be a significant factor? I can install it in front of my Define R5 intake fan, that should help? There's also a slightly more expensive Ultrastar with same characteristics called "RAID edition", is that just a RAID-optimized version that I should skip since I'm not interested in RAID?
Liam Robinson
Unless you play a single core heavy game, or emulate. Though I heard ARMA got a patch that makes it not horribad with Ryzens. It used to get what, twice less FPS?
Christian Barnes
ARMA was so shit an i3 was better than i7
Isaac Butler
You just described Intel, retard.
Alexander Murphy
There's new AM4 socket motherboards coming out. Thoughts on these?
Let me know when Asus makes a Mini ITX board similar to the Z270 Strix so I can fall for the Mini ITX meme
Liam Torres
You're set then
Chase Powell
I'm the guy from the last thread asking about Windows 7 on Ryzen, and I have another question.
I remember reading somewhere that if I use the wufuc patch, I won't be able to use dazloader to activate it. Is this true? Funny thing is, I still have my hardcopy of W7 that I bought years ago, but windows won't accept the code anymore.
Brandon Barnes
try with slmgr ipk then slmgr ato
or do phone activation
Jason Fisher
Where can i get a 100% custom pc case made?
Adrian Martinez
So I kind of want to build a top of the line PC simply because I have never done so and now I have the disposable income to make it possible.
How viable is an mATX build with a 1080ti, given I won't watercool it? Any cases you can recommend?
Brandon Lopez
I believe the key is being rejected because it has been used too many times. Will this still work?
Alexander Richardson
mATX is the de facto standard today. Yeah ATX is still very popular but it's just a waste of space really. Get yourself a Fractal Define Mini and just put it all in. Use a modular PSU if you can, makes it a bit less messy. mITX it the hot "new" meme where you actually run into trouble with cooling. It's also tiny compared to ATX and people still make build with Intel ovens and 1080tis (look up DAN A4 cases or Fractal Node) and they work.
Jordan Gomez
What should I upgrade?
No keks please
David Taylor
Sounds good, my current build is housed in a Fractal Define R3, and while I like the case for what it's worth, it is quite big. So a Mini sounds good to me. I've built some mITX PCs for friends when the Bitfenix Prodigy was all the rage, but they housed office-grade components where cooling wasn't an issue. While it is a nice form factor, I don't think I will go with form over function for this one.
Thank you very much.
Jordan Smith
Monitor to 144hz and another 8gb of ram. Your GPU's power is wasted on 60hz. Maybe more hard drive space.
Leo Gutierrez
Guys?
Adam Morris
All you need is a better gfx card and an SSD
None
You'll spend more on the gfx card than the CPU alone
Until you actually need something new, just wait
Make sure the RAM is compatible 6GB 1060 is a better bang for buck
Get yourself a good 1440p monitor then revisit your budget
>his upgrade path for graphics cards is non existant No, because graphics requirements are always going up while CPU requirements aren't going to change much
Drop to 1200
>AMD cpus are not fast enough to keep up with the ever growing high end graphics cards Yes, they are. They're basically generic Intel CPUs now
