If you want help: >State the budget & currency for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, try to include information like response time, refresh rate, resolution, and size
CPUs: >No i5s unless 50% discount; new i3s will be old i5 eqivalents >G4560 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPU >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Check your Mobo's QVL before buying RAM or look for user reports >Ryzen CPUs benefit a lot from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
GPUs: Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon), so using an old GPU or waiting to build may be a good idea right now. >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced gfx cards for 1080p; 6GB 1060 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 / 1080 - 1440p >GTX 1080Ti - 4K
General: >If your build isn't completely Poverty-tier, consider an 240GB or larger SSD. >If your build needs Wifi, you will need a Wireless Network Adapter, either 2.4 or 5GHz
Currently have a 280x, what's a good stopgap gfx card until the next set of cards by nvidia?
Im hoping to get a second hand 1070 or 980ti when the 1070ti comes out
Easton Morales
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Blake Hill
I've asked in a previous PCBG about a theoretical upgrade on my video card. I'm on a GTX680 2GB, and it's running just fine, however, the 2GB is kinda shitting on my texture settings in a fair number of games. My question is this - If I was to upgrade, what would be a realistic upgrade that's still better performance, while remaining relatively cheap? - I don't care for power consumption, since I had, at one stage, 2x 680's in SLI, one 2GB & one 4GB (I'm aware of SLI VRAM shenanigans not making that a true 6GB), but I accidentally sold the 4GB one like a jackass. They were the same brand & cooler, and I forgot to verify through something like GPU-Z. Is it worth getting something like a used GTX980? It's about $300 AUD, so another $20 or so for shipping, and that puts it at about $250 USD. Should I keep looking around? For similar performance, a GTX1060 6GB is about $400 AUD when factoring in shipping. Also, if I were to sell my 680 to make a bit more money to afford a better card, what would a decent price be for it? On Gumtree, I'm seeing a few for about $150, is that a good price, or are these sellers undervaluing/overvaluing? On Ebay, I'm seeing an average of about $200 or so. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Zachary Turner
who else is waiting for the kikes to shit the bed on thursday and make a ryzen build?
Lucas Mitchell
There's really nothing to step up to
Leo Hill
1060 6GB or a second hand 1070 or 980ti like you said is a good idea.
Ayden Gutierrez
Best way to prevent dust from being an issue while also not having to clean filters? Trying to consider a case for fanless mini-itx that nobody is ever going to check on.
Wyatt Hall
150 aud sounds about right, I think, if the aus market really is that crappy as you guys claim it is. I wouldnt give more than ~40 euroes for it personally, so try to sell it for like 100 aud.
Its an ancient card so whatever you can get for it is good at this point.
Lincoln Collins
Best $1500 pure gaming build? I'm willing to wait a few months for prices of components to drop slightly.
William Brooks
>case for fanless mini-itx
Make any suitable case you can find airtight with tape/glue/epoxy/etc.
Leave a hole here and there to prevent heat induced pressure from builing up.
Eli Cruz
for gaming
am i better off getting
two 1080p 144hz 27 inch monitors two 1440p standard refresh rate 27 inch monitors or one 3440x1440 standard refresh rate 34 inch monitor?
any one of these i am getting an arm so i can get all these fucking stands off of my desk they are like 90 percent of its surface area and i hate it
Gavin White
Having positive pressure normally keeps dust out while still having a reasonable air flow.
Adam Perez
>Best $1500 pure gaming build? Copy any other build list itt with that price tag
>I'm willing to wait a few months for prices of components to drop slightly. Black friday is your best bet for a price drop, until the next bf.
i want to replace both of my 1080p monitors and my 1070 surely cant drive 4k anyway
Juan Bennett
I need 15 for a 13" depth 30u cabinet
Jace Clark
2 1440p seems ideal. Probably better resale down the road, too
Carter Foster
How many hours until coffee lake launch?
Gavin King
is 144hz really that much of a gimmick?
Kayden Sanchez
>excited for the launch of a processor
you are bloody fucking adorable
Sebastian Sullivan
Some people enjoy it. Probably best to check it out on a store floor to see if it's something you'd like to fall for
Liam Rodriguez
What are my odds of running 4 sticks of RAM at 3200Mhz+ on an ASRock Taichi or Asus Crosshair VI? Just curious, only planning 2x8GB for now. What's happening on Thursday?
Jackson Walker
coffee lake release
Sebastian Ward
Covfefe Lake officially launches, and there are already rumors on how the supply might be limited
Hudson Cooper
>Covfefe I don't get this shitty meme and why people won't let it die already
Ethan Robinson
Should I try for Ryzen with 3466Mhz 16-16-16-36 RAM, or 3200Mhz 14-14-14-34 RAM?
Ayden Martin
The fuck is that even for
Jeremiah Powell
It might end up having one tiny fan on the cpu, plus whatever the power supply ends up having. So maybe fretting about this is useless.
Jaxon Morgan
Seedboxes. The external HDD is for shucking
Anthony Smith
Just take your PC out and clean it once a year. How hard is that?
Samuel Jones
Would this be a good drive to store games on to supplement an SSD?
Should I go for something bigger? Something cheaper? Are WD Blacks still good?
I can get the ASRock X370 Taichi or the Asus X370 Crosshair VI both for the same price. Which should I get? The better VRM is really the thing selling me on the ASRock, but everything at this level is so overkill. The Asus only has memory QVL for 3200Mhz, but the ASRock lists 3466Mhz, so that's tempting too. Asus is tried and true and has BIOS recovery stuff if I fuck it up. What would you guys recommend?
Blake Walker
You can't use the $99 windows tablets with a USB output for that?
Or the super cheap intel compute sticks?
Juan Howard
WD blacks will always have some extra features, they're fine if it's not much more than a 7200RPM Blue drive
ASrock is fine and slightly cheaper I think.
Logan Gonzalez
Reliability wise are they superior to Blues?
Benjamin Price
I'd rather have a rack-based solution. They'll be running other supplementary services and I want to incorporate them into a KVM box in an ajacent cabinet
Colton Jenkins
Should be, slightly faster as well
Should at least buy a PSU that won't explode, something cheap from EVGA or Seasonic. ECS boards are always complete shit btw
Andrew Gray
It's being designed for my folks and being hidden in the furnace room next to the router. They're not going to do any maintenance on it until it breaks.
Luke Stewart
what is currently the maximum serial performance config? 4ghz DDR4 + 7700K delidded + NH-D15 + Z270 Taichi? Does the motherboard really even matter for KBL overclocking or is the chip itself the bottleneck (outside of low-end boards)?
Matthew James
Then let the dust build up till it croaks. That is minimum 6 years at least.
Luis Price
So just to be clear, I can install linux from like a debian live install, set that up, test my shit, then install windows on a second drive at my leisure?
Or do I have to install windows first, fuck with the drivers and everything, then do it? I assume I can't update firmware without windoze
Ryder Fisher
the fuck you on about, install w/e OS on w/e drive in w/e order you want
Zachary Martin
>every computer part has GAYMING in their product name these days What went wrong.
Mason Watson
I can get the ASRock or Asus for the same price.
Camden Moore
>2017 >Being a homophobe
Jaxon Adams
Is it worth it buying an i7 3820 for $100 (USD) in 2018-1? I understand that the motherboards are the expensive part, which is what's making me question this.
Landon Wilson
Ok I think I've finalized it, what do you guys think?
Mainly for productivity and such, with some light gayming. Planning on driving either 2 1440p monitors or 2 4k monitors, I'm Ok with medium settings (or running the 4k at 1080p).
Cameron Barnes
Perfect 10/10
Carson Perry
That's a throwaway CPU these days. Don't bother with x79. Get a 1600 on a b350
update firmware? do you mean the bios? you can do that from the setup menu in most cases
Colton Richardson
Yes.
Also this is my first non-laptop PC, so I'm wondering, beyond the mobo, is there anything I need to firmware update? Everything else is just drivers no?
Gabriel Fisher
to be honest you dont even really need to update the bios unless you are having problems its usually best to just keep it how it is and drivers are the easiest thing to install they are just done at OS level just make sure you get them from the manufactures website if they are not already in windows dont use any driver help programs they are all malware
Dominic Wilson
I have a basic computer. i5 3330, 2x4GB RAM, GT620 GPU. I don't really need all the cores that Ryzen and Intel are going with now, but 4 threads is definitely starting to feel sluggish. Have clean installed the OS, and it's not exactly helped a lot. I'm considering buying an i7 to see if that remedies it. There's not much performance difference, the 3770s is apparently slightly better. The 2600 is a fair bit cheaper, but I don't know if it's compatible, and can't check for another week until I return from my trip. >i7 2600 for $70 >i7 3770s for $100 Which would be the better option?
Isaiah Russell
What about drivers for linux?
For work I have always used laptops where the built in ubuntu or mint stuff just werks™, I'm really not sure what I'm supposed to do for my own build.
most of those are done through package manager if you even need any at all they are usually already in most distros with the exception of maybe graphics sometimes
Isaiah Barnes
Where would I get the NVidia drivers? Does NVidia make linux ones?
David Cook
yes in most cases you can get those through package managers as well the search function is your friend
Ethan Sanchez
Thank you. I'm just really really scared of messing this up in some way.
Samuel Foster
So Intel shat on locked CPU's for Kabylake/Z270, but did it happen to Z170 boards, too? I have an old Z170 board from when there was a sale on and got it for $99 AUD. On retail, the Skylake processors are fucking expensive, and for the 6700K, it's about $500. I found someone selling an i7 6700 for half that, so was considering getting and trying to overclock it. Is it even worth it to try? Z170 boards are worth fuck all now, so I was hoping to get a cheap as fuck Skylake i7.
Leo Nelson
just dont delete your installation media and its almost impossible to screw up in a way that cant be fixed with a reinstall
Caleb Robinson
Which DDR4 do I pair with 8700k?
Luke Hill
Thanks.
I'm kind of worried about getting windows from a keysite, but $250 is too much for windows pro.
Jackson Flores
How dumb is it to "upgrade" GTX960 to 1050Ti just to get rid of a power cable? I have 1920x1200 display that I'm not replacing any time soon so gaming performance is less important than power draw and fan noise.
Xavier Gonzalez
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Josiah Allen
You can't, unless you do the base clock OC, for which you need a specific mobo and bios.
Connor Sullivan
>tfw JUST fell for the Ryzen meme WAKE ME UP INSIDE
Bentley Reed
Pretty dumb
Alexander Cruz
>still no mention of Coffee Lake in the OP Having a hard time AMD shills?
Henry Clark
>literally just built my rig >get into a good gaming session >accidentally pull the psu plug out of its socket while my pc is still on
well i feel retarded why do they make these things so fucking short, it barely reaches my outlet
Christopher Miller
Has ddr4 ram always been this expensive? Is it high because cryptos or is it staying this high and just going higher?
Ayden Murphy
Is a gtx1080 blower style for $470 a bad or good purchase?
Blower style cards are loud and noisy. If you have tinnitus already, it is a good purchase.
Dylan Peterson
In your scenario I'd get a 2560x1440 144/165hz TN gsync panel and a 2560x1440 60hz IPS panel. In the states that'd be ~$600.
Benjamin Rogers
Unless you need a blower or you're going to take it off and put something else on there you may as well just pay more
Julian Evans
No, but depending on what you do it may be useless. After playing cs:go and overwatch at 144hz it will take a while to get used to those games at 60hz again.
Caleb Powell
i5 2500k, Z77 motherboard, 12GB RAM, and a decent cooler $320 USD Worth it? Might ask them to drop the 2500k for a bit cheaper, then buy a 2600k off Aliexpress or something.
James Ward
It's high because of shortages in production. A year ago it was half the price.
Kevin Robinson
For what usage? For gaming it's the GPU.
Ethan Phillips
Good time to jump into AM4 or wait for Zen refresh early next year?
Brody Perry
>tfw bought one Is it real, Sup Forums? I want to believe.
Oliver Moore
I like Asus' bioses more. Also there's a huge thread for 3000 pages for it at overclock.net, so you can read the fuck out of it. QVL means nothing. Pretty sure people got 3600MHz stable or even more with their crosshairs.
Alexander Ross
As always, if you feel you can wait you should
Brody Baker
The i3-8100 is the best value CPU on the market.
Thomas Martin
asking again since i didnt get a clear answer is my monitor randomly losing signal and turning back on after a few seconds a serious problem?
Jack Anderson
Will it production increase any time soon? Should I wait or just buy now?
Matthew Nelson
i have a 960 2gb and a 2600k. I'm finding that my cpu runs at about 20% and my gpu runs at 100% in tww2. Would it be worth upgrading to a 1060 or 1070, or would that bottleneck me the other way.
