What was the point of Ryzen?

What was the point of Ryzen?

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Why the fuck do you retards keep posting this dumb shit? I have yet to see a "what was the point of Kaby Lake" thread, but you know you'll get (you's) if you post it about Ryzen. Fuck off to
you attention seeking faggot.

>20 fps above 60 for a shitty casual gayme

Seems fine to me, senpai.

Delivering 2/3 of performance for 1/2 of the price?

You make these threads every fucking day, just kill yourself or go back to and stop shitting up the board even more.
Sage, report and hide.

The 8400 is cheaper than the 1600 though. Any motherboard difference is made up by needing 3200MHz Samsung B-die unicorn RAM for Ryzen.

Stop. Taking. The. Bait,

>far cry ooga booga edition

>all these AMD shills trying to slide the thread away from objective benchmarks and into salty fanboy crying

I have no clue! :D

buttmad amd poorfag detected

To get dumb shills like you to post.

Aren't you happy you get Intel shekels?

Maybe we can work it out!

CRASHING THIS SHILLTEL CIRCLEJERK WITH NO SURVIVORS

he's right though

Yeah, nobody is going to respond to a thread about the purpose of kaby lake because it doesn't suck ass like ryzen

>SHILLTEL CIRCLEJERK
>thread is packed with buttmad Ryzen owners

>same single cherry picked skewed gay man score pic over and over and over DESPITE having been debunked by EVERY OTHER performance test out there.

>tfw no ryzen Sup Forumsentoo desktop for pci passthrough gameing

>only 10% difference
So much for the best GAYMEN processor ever!

seriously pajeet, stop huffing jenkem while browsing Sup Forums

yeah ok kid

>dedicated shitposting shill thread
This board is a festering sewer.

>8400 is slower than 1500X
HAHAHA

Every other one, huh? You'll have no problem posting them then, right? Remember, no TPU and their GPU-bottlenecked results thanks to using a 1080 rather than a Ti!

>I can't come up with a compelling argument so I'll just call him a kid and a shill

...

>Remember, no TPU and their GPU-bottlenecked results thanks to using a 1080 rather than a Ti!
Literally cherrypicking now

what's next, benchmarking in 640x480?

youtube.com/watch?v=oMNFoNtKCR8

So I suppose you'll be showing us your ultra leet gaming setup with a 1080ti and 144hz gaming monitor any second now, right? Oh, wait, you don't have one because nobody has that shit. 1080ti has 0.57% marketshare on steam. It's a benchmarking GPU and nothing more, just like ultra placebo settings. Kill yourself, shill.

>Intlel only better at poorfag resolutions

KEK

poor people

this is a planet of poor people

Wrecking Intel's performance/$ lineup with competitive higher end options for a year. I hope the Zen refresh does the same to Covfefe Lake.
Civ 6 doesn't do draw culling so this isn't really a representative benchmark

>1080ti has 0.57% marketshare on steam

Ooh, bringing up the Steam Hardware Survey seems like a mistake to me, friend. You AMDrones are always arguing that 1080p isn't a valid resolution to test with any more, yet 58.10% of Steam users game on a 1080p monitor. 1440p, 1440p ultrawide and 4K make up less than 4% combined.

>a year

*six months

>this is what poorfags actually believe

Be competitor. If Intel don't have a competitor you will feel and fear all terror and greed of monopoly!

Ryzen is faster.
cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=3000&cmp[]=3097

you need to take into account the 6 months it will take intel to actually ship coffee lake

>Far Cry single thread edition
Cherry picking is for losers.

>1080ti has 0.57% marketshare on steam

Steam has 67m active users. 0.57% is still over 380k people with a 1080 Ti.

>Requires GTX 1080Ti for a few % advantage

'Ironically, it is in games that we are most disappointed. Intel announced strongly during the presentation to the press that its Core i7-8700K would be its best processor to game on. Its performance is excellent, but the gap with a 7700K is on average only 0.6%, the 7700K enjoying a higher frequency Ring / L3 500 MHz which helps in games and some Intel sensitive applications.

Compared to Ryzen (and for reasons similar but different to the Skylake-X), there is not too much debate, this range has the advantage in games using the 6C models and up which in practice are 'better than the Ryzen 7 1800X. Frequency retains an important role and Skylake's formula continues to work perfectly for this type of application.

It should be remembered however that our use case in games is to show you titles where the CPU makes the difference by getting the most out of a high-end graphics card (GTX 1080Ti/RX Vega 64) which only a few people own. For the majority of users (GTX 1080 and below) the level of performance provided by most recent processors (whether Ryzen or Skylake-X) is quite acceptable, in the most CPU-intensive games, the 7700K and 8700K draw the maximum out of a very fast graphics card (GTX 1080Ti/RX Vega 64). '

Looking to upgrade my CPU in the next month or so, i5 8400 and Ryzen 1600 are the best options in my price range. Is Ryzen better for future proofing? Are we finally getting to the days where hyperthreading and multicore is actually useful?

Currently running Phenom II garbage so anything is an upgrade

What did (You) mean by this?

At stock the 8700K is barely any better than a 1600X

enjoying your 2.8 base clock?

nice shoop

>I use my computer for running Cinebench. :)

What was the point of haswell/broadwell/skylake/kabylake/coffeelake/sky leg eggs?

Then why bother with 6 cores? Why you need more than 4 goy?

Autistic faggots sperging out about benchmarks, get a grip you bellends

I'm enjoying the 3.8GHz minimum real clock speed with all cores loaded. :^)

Uh, to put pressure on Intel so they would make more advanced products at competitive prices, instead of jewing old crap for a fortune, so AMD feels the pressure and goes to attack again, and in the end consumers have better products for less sheckels?
Like, uh, competition is good?

If you even care about this, i.e. you are not buying a Mac, you are poor. Rich people does not look at the specs and just grab the most expensive Mac available like a chad.

good for you mate

Fuck there's so much AMD shilling these days, what's going on ? It feels like unjustified pride.
95% of benchmarks shows AMD's thingies getting worse performance than competition

inb4 brazil

Yeag the 8400 is impressive i am very happy with mine. Are you running yours on the stock cooler too?

LMAO at pathetic photoshop attempt

Thanks for shitting up the board, Sup Forums kids.

Anons, anyone with a decent amount of brain knows about multithreaded CPU core usage and optimizations are not present in some spewn out game engine.


>BUT HURR DURR ITS USING ALL THE CORES
Yes you retard, its using all the cores but all those cores are invalidating eachothers cache and locking same lines and all are falling into same cache sets because optimizing that shit is like post-quantum cryptography.

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No, I have a Noctua NH-U14S on it, which is complete overkill. It sits in the mid-40s under non-AVX stress test load.

>Buys a cheap locked CPU
>Buys an expensive over specced overclocking motherboard to run it

The absolute state of Intel shills.

In that case, thank God I'm not rich.

Low end Z370 boards are cheaper than high end B350 ones. Enjoy your exploding VRMs when you overclock your Ryzen housefire to match the stock speed of a 65W locked Intel chip.

All these Intel shills running on overclocked MCE and pretending it's stock

Linux has more than that. Look how hard a time Linux has getting noticed by gamers.

Now try talking up your numbers again.

>here's a completely unrelated point
>gotcha

So the only argument shills will use anymore is the locked i5-8400? Was that cooking element known as i7-8700k too hard to talk up?

The cheapest Z370 is like 140$. The average B350 is 70$. You also could buy Ryzen 1600 for 160$ on newegg. Add to this motherboard discount combo and its MUCH MUCH cheaper than your 8400+Z730. Might as well push saved money to better GPU and get miles better performance in games.
>exploding VRMs
Nice anecdotal argument, kiddo.

Oh, and you get an upgared path in the future and extra 6 threads! You must be a braindead fanboy to not see how 1600 is a better buy.

>The cheapest Z370 is like 140$
The cheapest Z370 is $112. Nice research, dumbass.

pcpartpicker.com/product/39hj4D/asrock-z370-pro4-atx-lga1151-motherboard-z370-pro4

>The average B350 is 70$
Another lie. Pic related. And we already covered buying the absolute worst trash board you can find, with a 3-phase VRM that'll splutter and die trying to overclock even a six core. Yet Poozen shills are always blabbing about "muh long-term investment" and future upgrades. Can't have it both ways!

>MUCH MUCH cheaper than your 8400+Z730
You forgot your Samsung B-die unicorn RAM that AMD shills INSIST that Poozen always be tested with for a benchmark to be valid, and as such has to be factored into the price. The total price for both platforms is near-identical and one offers far better performance than the other (that's the 8400 in case you were confused).

>Nice anecdotal argument
If you have any self-respect at all, you'll make a thread to apologise when I'm proven right. Being tech-illiterate isn't a crime, but it is a problem.

Whoops, forgot to show the """""average""""" """""$70""""" motherboards!

>The cheapest Z370 is $112
42$ overpay for dead end socket.
>Another lie. Pic related. And we already covered buying the absolute worst trash board you can find
I see shitload of cheap boards going as low as 65$? How your picture even supposed to prove anything? Also going by your retarded logic you CANT either buy the cheapest Z370 board because of muh exploding VRM myth. The difference in price still stays.
>The total price for both platforms is near-identical and one offers far better performance than the other
Are you literally retarded and cant into math? Also 8400 is only 10% better in video games. Its still inferior processor with less 6 less threads.
>If you have any self-respect at all, you'll make a thread to apologise when I'm proven right. Being tech-illiterate isn't a crime, but it is a problem.
Another non argument.
>implying you have to buy the most pricey GAYMER motherboard with lots of gimmicks in order for your VRM's to not explode
>implying everyone is retarded and cant measure VRM temps on theyr cheap B350 mobo
Your whole (((argument))) is THE MORE THE PRICE THE BETTER. How can you be so dumb?

they managed to find one or two few fake benchmarks at first, made some shitty memes, but quickly gave up as they realized they are not funny, and nobody believes fake news anymore.

next they tried "muh video processing speed", thinking a few decent benchmarks on video processing and encryption/decryption (ie the simplest, most linear tasks that a CPU can do) would cancel out their crappy benchmarks for practically everything else.

at this point they have all but given up, and is mostly just throwing temper tantrums yelling at people to go back to Sup Forums. salty as all hell. shit, i don't think i've seen this much salt since trump got elected. pretty sure there's some overlap between the people who salted the earth then and those that are doing it here now, if you know what i mean...

does intel make other stuff? like food, or cars, or whatever. would be nice if those winners started producing other stuff as well, given how great they seem to be at what they are doing now.

Say it with me
>video processing doesnt matter!
>encryption/decryption doesnt matter!
>linear tasks dont matter!
>video games at low resolution DO MATTER!!!

I have a 1700 and got it near launch.
I had a phenom II 955 no oc

either one will be an upgrade so massive its like the 90's again, however do you want to bet?

intel is on a 'dead socket', realisticly if intel allowed a bios any of the same pin sockets would use modern cpus, but intels a cunt.

amd said they are sticking with the same socket till ddr5 or whatever is next.

There is a good chance that amd motherboards now will take the 7nm parts as long as the bios gets updated.

Personally for me either way the cpu is good enough to not be able to bitch, but that may not be the case for you. I see potentially getting a renderbox and a high end computer with a drop in upgrade as more valuable than intels buy full new systems and they have to be the high end boards only because thats all thats out for 6 months.

>muh games

oy vey, delid this

Multithreading

ha! sorry i'm not a pathetic loser who encrypts his sick pedophile porn 24/7.
top kek XD
intel is always best for games and console emulation.
get rekt.

>anecdotal
not even anecdotal
no one has even reported of "exploding VRMs" on a B350
this guy is pulling the same bullshit for the 9th time

games rarely use shitthreading so get rekt kid

processors aren't made for gaming

...

they are made exactly mostly for gaming.
autists like who encrypt their pedo porn are rare.

>his logic and common sense destroyed me and i have have no counter argument so i'll just post bait.jpg
get rekt kid.

You'd need to be retarded to think that you can overclock even a six core on a low end B350 board though. Explosion or not, you're going to burn out the shitty components sooner or later. Electrical current ratings aren't anecdotal or bullshit.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZGrxhf_xZWI

People buying the absolute lowest end, trash tier B350 boards as part of their Ryzen "platform investment" are dumb.

>R5 1600 $195
>ASRock AB350M Pro4 $61
>G.Skill Trident Z 16GB B-Die "unicorn RAM" $183
>total $439

>i5-8400 $200
>ASRock Z370 Pro4 $112
>Crucial 2133 16GB $139
>total $451
lol
that B350 is one of the best too

>1502231223175.png
>bait.jpg
At least get the format right.

>CPUs are only meant for gaming
>What are servers?
>What are super computers?
>What are work stations?
>What is video editing?
>What is 3D rendering?
>What is decryption?
>What are virtual machines?
>What is love?

>that B350 is one of the best too

No it isn't. It's below literally every MSI board, a couple of other ASRock ones and several Asus ones in terms of quality, and way behind many in terms of features.

And even choosing a garbage tier $60 MATX motherboard you could only get your Ryzen build $12 below the 8400, which offers far superior performance. That's honestly pathetic.

that is actually the baite-gesserit litany against bait

>being this precise
autism confirmed.

And no, all that other shit is 10% of the market. 10% are loser autists who encrypt, 3D render their pedo porn.

>baite-gesserit litany
wtf is that? autism confirmed.

>being wrong
Lmaoing @ ur lyfe
Hol up lemme play some games on my EPYC 7601P server CPU apparently designed for gaming

are you autismus maximus?

That's not even an insult my dude

wasn't intended to be, i just want to get some advice and instead i get retards wasting my time.
Sup Forums sucks.

Then why are you here xdddd

>actually hardcore overclocking
6 phases are fine for what you can even get out of a 1600
maybe if you're taking it to ice you'll need something better

with that 12 bucks you could get a mortar with more "features" or a gigabyte 4+3 phase
doubled 3 + single 3 on that asrock is completely fine