Intel employee here. Leaving next week

Intel employee here. Leaving next week.

AMA.

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Can you leak the ME keys?

know anything about 100G transceiver perf this quarter?

Any insight on Ice lake?

How much data do intel chips send per hour to your headquarters?

Internal stance on AMD?
Shittalk or respectful?

How many intel shill on Sup Forums

Why was the AI webcast so bad

just how true is this image in your professional estimation?

At least the kikes don't use fake dies unlike AMD

Congratulations. Is there still a CPU process shrink team in Folsom? How about the old MD6 (P6, Pentium 4, Nehalem) team in Jones Farm?

Also, what do they really call Focal these days? In my day, it was called Ranting and Raving, and Ranking and Spanking.

Why would you leave Intel? They are worth billions of dollars and you can make a ton of money to live a comfortable lifestyle. I hope that you are instead getting a new job with equal or better pay.

I have no idea why people are obsessed about this thing. No one has proven an attack in the wild.

It's not going well from what I heard.

It's a renamed core that was meant to be released this quarter.

I was on here every day. Running a Ryzen 7 at home ;^)

Oh yeah, and do they still have all those propaganda posters on the walls, including the one that says, "stress is how you handle it?"

>Why would you leave Intel? They are worth billions of dollars and you can make a ton of money to live a comfortable lifestyle. I hope that you are instead getting a new job with equal or better pay.
You guys have no idea how bad things are right now. Morale is non-existent. I knew at least 2 people who were part of the last major layoffs.

There's better companies to work for already, better pay, better conditions and a more forward-looking outlook.

Intel management needs to change or it will never recover. Next year might be the last good year for Intel. It's a real shame, I really love the company but too many mistakes were made.

>stress is how you handle it?
Never had this near me.

Can you go into more details about the internal issues, and culture? I know a guy who worked their during the 90's and they were extremely high energy like the best of the best in engineering would be there. He also said they used to be extremely paranoid about leaking information. In the break rooms for example there were tv's that played automated recording from thier ceo saying don't trust your co-worker's or your friends for they may be attempting corporate espionage. They also pay really good for contractors too. So can you tell us more of your experiences in there?

>No one has proven an attack in the wild.
Prove an attack? That's like having a gun held up to your head and saying that no one has ever proven that particular gun has fired a bullet.

are you jewish?

>lies
Itt

That sounds like what I expected actually

Ever since that one french guy quit

Rename of what exactly?

My dad is the boss of Nintendo
AMA

>Can you go into more details about the internal issues, and culture? I know a guy who worked their during the 90's and they were extremely high energy like the best of the best in engineering would be there.
I wish I grew up in that era. I've been with them for 3 years and though things were really good at the start of 2016, with a positive atmosphere and a lot of perks, things took a very bad turn after the 2nd quarter.

>He also said they used to be extremely paranoid about leaking information.
Still are.

>In the break rooms for example there were tv's that played automated recording from thier ceo saying don't trust your co-worker's or your friends for they may be attempting corporate espionage.
There's no TVs in the break rooms I've been in. Damn that must have been intense. I really wish I was this old in the 90s.

>They also pay really good for contractors too. So can you tell us more of your experiences in there?
Yeah they still do, actually the focus is shifting more into hiring contractors than long-term FT employees. Which is a very bad sign.

The systems that intel uses for development is archaic and explains why progress is really slow. Intel became foundry-focused in 2014 and things went downhill ever since. Management was convinced that simply by having the best technology we didn't really need to invest in engineering development. That was a critical mistake and now they're trying to play catch up without also modernising the workflows.

I was in the chipset testing team and every tool I used looked like it was developed in the early 2000s. Revision management is a nightmare.

Yes and no. Jewish relatives, Christian relatives, but I'm personally Christian.

>the focus is shifting more into hiring contractors than long-term FT employees. Which is a very bad sign.
That stinks of clueless management hacking off their own limbs to survive.

Good idea to jump ship.

>internal issues, and culture
Sorry I focused more on technical issues rather than cultural issues.

Prior to this year, you can feel everyone was very proud to work for Intel. There was a lot of camaraderie. We had end of the year trips. On-boarding engineers was a smooth process. That's no longer really the case. Getting headcount is basically impossible.

Projects are allocated very politically, with under-performing speculative teams (*COUGH*Optane*COUGH*) getting most resource allocation because of their director's influence.

If you're working on the teams that aren't getting slaughtered, you're probably alright. I'm not going to wait around though.

If you can't trust the IME, how can you trust anything in the system?

Sounds like every tech company in the valley.
Notably : shit tier development tools and shit tier development practices.

It's funny how many outsiders think the best you can do is work at one of these tech giants. Literally the worst practices I have ever seen in software development.

>If you can't trust the IME, how can you trust anything in the system?

You can't, which is the point. Both AMD and Intel have to be assumed compromised because of these "security" systems.

It's going to bite one or both the day someone gets an exploit vulnerability on the scale of the WPA2 crack that'll come out tomorrow. We're talking "dead and buried corporation" scale of fuckup.

That's why the system remains obscured. It's not nefarious. The risk of it breaking is too high to allow just anyone to figure out how it works.

As much as people repeat the mantra that "security by obscurity" doesn't work, it's been working pretty well, bar one fuck up by the web interface idiots.

This is what happens when an organization acquires, ahem, legacy. Not the OP, but Intel used to develop its own in-house tools out of necessity. Newer firms have the opportunity to avoid this pain.

>If you can't trust the IME, how can you trust anything in the system?
You can't, but the other components of the system don't have unlimited and unfettered access to all the other components.
You want to give things as little trust as you possible can, which would mean letting people disable the IME.
I don't fucking use it, I'm not a fucking company (I should note that I have never actually heard of any company using it).
Why not let me disable it? Or better yet, sell it as an additional feature to corporate customers. Isn't Intel good at that? Locking features and then charging people extra to unlock things or buy an almost nearly identical processor with a nice markup for the feature enabled?

>Yes and no. Jewish relatives

dumped

I also work for intel and have been thinking about leaving, but I'm staying for the moment so my resume looks a little better if/when I leave.

>Intel became foundry-focused in 2014 and things went downhill ever since.

I'll admit I'm not that close to that side of the company, but if intel is foundry-focused then why has CNL been so shit?

>No one has proven an attack in the wild.
We're up to two now, aren't we?

>Ryzen 7 at home
mah nigga. Judenfrei.
hey watch this:
youtube.com/watch?v=osSMJRyxG0k

why do you think people fall for this pathetic bait and give you attention despite the fact you've given no reason for anyone to believe you work there at all?

Does Intel use Cadence/Synopsys EDA shit, or do you guys have your own in-house design tools?

Security through obscurity is not actual security.

This is the most basic fuckup assumption imaginable and yet it continues to be made.

im just curious, as someone in a more hardware based company, how much of the work thas out there is still in all/mostly hardware based engineering. I here all these stories about how the EE/CpE/CS jobs are mostly based around software and fewer and fewer hardware engineers are needed. Is this true.

The only reason I can come to for both AMD and Intel forcing this IME shit is because they got nice little NSL's telling them to do it or else the US government would do to them, what it did to Qwest:

businessinsider.com/the-story-of-joseph-nacchio-and-the-nsa-2013-6

I only care about Intel's networking gear, atom line(goldmont and after) and optane more specifically their wires and wireless NICs and enterprise and prosumer(aka enterprise SSD controller made cheap for mortals) Optane drives.


Now, tell me are these 3 teams suffering? Should I be worried?

Well of course, it's obvious when you think about it, but unless they're hard evidence, they'll just deny it.

Not OP, but Optane will bust for sure, it's a disaster how they handled it till now.

They announced development of it two years ago claiming incredible performance and an amazing future, then left everyone in the dark for over a year until this year Computex where they've shown the Cache with an HDD which is now released.

Definitely something went incredibly wrong in engineering, considering that it's such a huge marketing failure, It's not normal for Intel to not hype the fuck out of a new product, specially if it was something that was as groundbreaking (claimed by intel) as 3D XPoint.

It's not what it was supposed to be according to marketing, but it is what I'm looking for, good performance at low queue depths, at least compared to NAND.

>dumped
Oy vey.

>I'll admit I'm not that close to that side of the company, but if intel is foundry-focused then why has CNL been so shit?
The technology works, it's just actually worse than the previous node so there's no possibility of commercial launch for another year at the very least.

By foundry focused I mean we're trying to leverage our (rapidly disappear) lead in other technologies than CPUs. The Altera acquisition was an example. If this doesn't happen, you can imagine how catastrophic the empty pipelines will be on the bottom line.

>I also work for intel and have been thinking about leaving, but I'm staying for the moment so my resume looks a little better if/when I leave.
You're honestly not alone as you can see by this thread. You can probably confirm how bad things have gotten.

>We're up to two now, aren't we?
I only know of one and it wasn't the apocalypse everyone hyped it up to be.

[This guy gets a lot more views within Intel than most people could imagine.]
To me the Zen architecture was the conclusion of the terrible management decisions being made at Intel. I can't wait for the second revision, hope they don't change the AM4 motherboard, I will definitely update my CPU.

>Cadence/Synopsys EDA shit
Synopsys mainly, except for physical design where Cadence is the only option.

>this guy gets a lot more views in intel than
Wow that's pretty weird. He's thoroughly red pilled me on AMD in the past several months and I'll never build Intel/Nvidia again.

>There's better companies to work for already

which companies do you have in mind? Tech jobs are bleak atm, esp in Australia...

>I'll never build Intel/Nvidia again.
So here's the issue with that
AMD has also done shady shit just not Intel's level, due to funds.
They promised bulldozer was an i7 killer even showing slides of the "Superior" performance.
they promised Titan killing performance with the FuryX. And it fell short.
They also said it was an overclocker's dream. And most were only able to hit +50mhz on the core.
They also said CfX 480s would be a gtx1080 killer, it wasn't.
AMD sent 4.1ghz golden Ryzen chips to reviewers to make it seem like even a cheap 1600 could hit 4.1ghz when only the top 20% can hit 4.0ghz
Then promising Vega would be unstoppable. And leaking information about Vega 64 having a hast rate of 100.
Then trying to market rx470/480s to miners.
Even though they wanted "good 1080p performance for $200" with the rx480s.

I'm not defending Intel, but if you think AMD is the good guy; ur sadly mistaken

I agree with you but 90% of your list is just utter bullshit

yeah your complaints arent even in the same ballpark you fucking retard

intel actively engages in anticompeteive behavior, AMD's marketing maybe shoots for the stars too high

its not even the same ballpark

AMD's dumb marketing is the same as Intel and Nvidia's practices? Are you high?

didn't a guy in Europe break into intel ME? thought he was going to give a presentation on it at a blackhat conference coming up.

That's just typical marketing lies any company does.
Nothing on that list is as bad as paying OEMs to not use any competitor's CPUs, or using legal actions to strong arm every other x86 manufacturer out of business in the 90s.

this is why you dumb white goys need to be killed

stop noticing flaws in my arguments

>I'm not defending Intel, but if you think AMD is the good guy; ur sadly mistaken
No big corporation is "the good guy" but AMD is hell of a lot closer than Intel.

>Fury X
To be honest, I don't really care, got mine for 600CHF on release, and it's still going strong for me, mostly because I use it at 1080p 4 monitor setup.
And the only reason I don't have buyers remorse is most likely because GPU haven't really evolved that much since the 980Ti/Fury X release, I 'member the good old times where every year you would feel remorse for not waiting because your flagship got destroyed 6/12 months later.

But I get why people got mad about the whole Fury X release, they hyped the fuck out of HBM and how it was an Overclocker dream, in the end, it only managed to beat the 980Ti in 50% of the games, and after updates it beats the 980Ti consistently but not on every game.

I'm still on a GTX660

Was going to upgrade to a RX480, but figured I'd wait to see how Vega panned out.

Well, Vega panned alright, and GPU prices shot to the fucking moon, too. So now I'm still stuck on a shitty fucking GTX660

I hope Navi or Volta are going to be at least 50% superior to the 1080Ti, I actually do want to replace my Fury X, mostly because I need a new GPU for my encoding rig, so I'll just use my Fury X for that while upgrading my PC for vidya.

>AMD gets a pass because Intel has done worse
I never understood this mindset.
How can you support a company that actively lies to it's fanbase?

Why do you keep buying Intel then?

They won't, holy shit dude Volta is still using the same node while Navi is completely unknown.

>How can you support a company that actively lies to it's fanbase?
Because IBM doesn't make consumer products.

not just the valley, overall most tech companies actually neglect the fact that they are a tech company and focus on releasing random products rather than fixing internal issue such as data centers maintenance, internal software development, hardware investment, software migration and my favorite, it-security, the biggest fucking joke in commercial it-businesses. wouldn't be surprised if the company i currently work for would be the next equifax.

oh well, fuck bitches 'n get paid

>You guys have no idea how bad things are right now.
why is that? Intel is way ahead of AMD in terms of sales, right?

>Prior to this year
wait, you mean everything went to shit in just one year?

We'll see come next ER.
But for a company that pays its management with stock, revenue dropping even 10% is massive.

what is intel doing with the hidden core in their processors?
you know, the one that is undetectable by OSes

Thing is, I'm not dumb enough to be swindled by vacuous marketing talk - AMD or otherwise. I'm supporting AMD because Intel are guilty of atrocious anit-consumer, anti-competition activities. And also because we need to foster competition in the ecosystem instead of saying "hmm inte and nvidia gibs me 7 more frames per second so im going coffee lake and gtx instead of Ryzen/Radeon." I seriously think it's necessary that we adjust our purchasing decisions to better engender a healthy ecosystem of competition, which will be to our benefit long term

Freesync is so ubiquitous that must be screen tear on your end because you can't afford a $900 gsync monitor on your wishlist

it's there as a last ditch way for the NSA/CIA to pwn someone's computer when all else fails

Did Intel bribe the fucking OEMs again?
The first Raven Ridge laptop has FUCKING SINGLE CHANNEL MEMORY, FUCKING AGAIN.

Jesus, this isn't anywhere near the same level of corruption of Intel, I actually can't think of a tech company more corrupt than Intel.

They literally PAID OEMs billions of dollars not to use competitors products, setting up a highly illegal monopoly. They even went to the extent of making their compiler cripple software performance when it detected it wasn't running on an Intel CPU.

It deserves all the hate they get.

>They even went to the extent of making their compiler cripple software performance when it detected it wasn't running on an Intel CPU.


and they never actually fixed that, either

Anyone who's been using intel's compiler has been unknowingly disabling/compromising performance on AMD systems

Also microsoft's compilers embed spyware

>The first Raven Ridge laptop has FUCKING SINGLE CHANNEL MEMORY, FUCKING AGAIN.
Where?

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HERE.

There aren't any Raven Ridge laptops out or even announces, what are you talking about.

you are a demigod

So the 8GB option comes with one stick, but 16GB with dual?

For fucks sakes.

On the other hand, clocks rates are really good, and that's not even Ryzen 7 Mobile, but 5.

not sure, may be you are a lier

>Intel equivalent of this notebook does have dual channel RAM.


Holy shit.

>yes and no

SHLOMO
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THE MEMES ARE REAL, ONE SOCKET A YEAR KEEPS THE GOYIM IN FEAR.

ONE DELID PER CPU PAYS THE SALARY OF APU

OVERPRICE FOR THE GOY, JEWISH JOY

For CPU it doesn't really matter, 1 CCX can be fed properly by single channel memory.

However.. the GPU is a whole different thing, unless AMD Vega has fucking magical compression and can live on single channel, there won't be problem.
I doubt it.

*inhales*
JUST

>Also microsoft's compilers embed spyware
source?

No, even combination of DSBR and DCC won't save it from being bandwith starved.
It's 704ALUs.

tell us the real reason intel uses thermal paste instead of solder for the die.

>Up to 10 hours and 15 minutes estimated battery time 3

Everything is looking fucking perfect, Raven Ridge will deliver us from that shitty Intel GPU.
Finally.

www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c05652570.pdf


Besides the memory, what the fuck
Thankfully there's 2 slots so I can just throw in another SODIMM in there

>Raven Ridge will deliver us from that shitty Intel GPU.
>Crimson for wangblows and AMDGPU+Radeonsi for GNU/NEET
Fucking perfect.
>up to 16 GB RAM
It that base or maximum?

3D mark scores of R7 and R5

youtu.be/i3z5IjmSL2M?t=12

8GB single channel is base, 16GB is maximum

Not like you can't remove the stock 8GB SODIMM and replace it with a 16GB SODIMM, I doubt Raven Ridge has a 16GB limit, most probably 32GB

Or if AMD feels like segmenting the 32GB will be reserved for Raven Ridge Pro

> Or if AMD feels like segmenting the 32GB will be reserved for Raven Ridge Pro
That makes no sense since RR and RR Pro are the same SKUs for difference markets (consumer and commercial respectively).

Oh wait cofveve lake (well, KBL-R) edition of the same laptop is also single channel base.
It's HP that went retard.

Yeah, but the Pro segment will always require more resources, it's just a small possibility.

Also they're not the same SKU, same silicon yes, but not same SKU.

Pro SKUs have slightly slower clocks and certified ECC(with motherboard), SME and SEV on top of 5+ years of service.
Pretty important for this segment.

AMD will end up getting shafted more, Intel's iGPUs are anemic as fuck, even early Vega mobile leaks put its performance around 20-30% faster than Iris Pro, much less the non eDRAM versions.

>even early Vega mobile leaks put its performance around 20-30% faster than Iris Pro
And that's with half the uArch being disabled.
>Pro SKUs have slightly slower clocks and certified ECC(with motherboard), SME and SEV on top of 5+ years of service.
>Pretty important for this segment.
Yes, but limiting consumer stuff to single-channel sounds silly and you know it.

Is intel still salty about the 6502?

I'm not talking about single or channel, but maximum amount of memory per socket, RR Mobile consumer can have a 16GB(2x8GB) limit while RR Pro can have 32GB.(2x16GB)

This probably won't happen but it's a possibility.