Well?

Well?

Like buying a game on steam, playing it for 1h and 59 minutes and then get your money back.

>The report found that illegal downloads and streams can actually boost legal sales of games, according to the report.

A lot of piratefags do buy a copy if they like the devs

Actually distributing is illegal for that reason

Not everyone who downloads is distributing

And that green guy literally wasn't a customer, so there wasn't a loss

>make a comic where you can make your "opponent" say and do anything
>use this as legitimate criticism
Do I need to tell you why this is retarded?

Also, someone would have to buy a copy if they wanted to make free copies of it. This comic is retarded by making the red guy the pirate and not the original customer who makes additional copies of it.

Piratecucks literally STEALING. Fucking cucks wouldn't go into a store and steal something, only on the anonymous internet because they're too much of a cuck to deal with the consequences of their actions.

Do you people not get this shit still? The sale was already made in this case. Companies buy the game in bulk, and then sell it unless you buy directly.

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It's true in some cases, not true in others. I've literally never going to pirate a video game, if I actually want a game I buy it. I'm also almost never going to pay for music because I'd almost always prefer my money and silence to music. Spotify pretty much fixed that issue for me entirely.

How was the original copy acquired in the first place.

can confirm
>pirate game
>want multiplayer. vpn lan full of cheaters
>buy game
or
>pirate game
>crippling bug that's been fixed in the real game but not cracked for us pirates
>buy game, transfer save

although these scenarios are extremely rare, probably 1 in 10 games I pirate result in a purchase. plus I can then talk about said games giving them more publicity. Also, once you see what casts the shadows on the wall you can't go back. Now that I know I can get it for free why would I ever pay money for it (unless certain scenarios arise)

communists will defend this

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Piracy isn't a lost sale, it's more like 1/10th of a lost sale. Piracy is not moral. I know this, and I don't care. I pirate anyway.

Friendly reminder that communism failed multiple times yet capitalism has succeeded for centuries

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hahaha
>Everyone who isnt in the communist party owns nothing
>Family is destroyed to enable communism
>Everyone has to slave away at whatever jobs the state says you should do
>There's nothing to do in your free time other than to hunt rats cause you're starving

It's not capitalism fault that socialist and post communist nations and even africa can't do anything right.

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Yeah I'm one of them because more often than not it takes more than 2 hours to determine if the game you just spent $60 on is worth playing any longer.

Well what?

All the very leftists states have higher poverty levels than pro capitalism states

>actually believing this stale meme

>if i pirate games, it'll get people talking about it and OTHER people will buy the game!
>me me me me me me me me me me

Absolutely a free alternative will hurt sales of a product. DUH.

But not many people know how to pirate, there can be risky software downloads involved, and some semi-complex tasks in cracking said game.

As one above poster said, I also often purchase games that I pirate. Especially if it is one that I REALLY like and if it goes on sale later.

Also, achievements can drive pirates to purchase games they love.

If piracy has no direct influence on sales, then clearly a certain percentage of piratefags do indeed buy it at one point if they like the devs, especially since a copy has to be bought anyways if you wanted to make a copy of it.

Cancer model because that'll just make developers put the most effort and value into the first 2 hours of the game to captivate the audience.

>homeless people should get free houses
>a subsection of the main population comprised of higher eduated, well paid statesmen is compared to the total population and wow, the sample makes more than the total population!
>durrr 50% of the population lies under an arbitrary line set in the sand that determines whether you're 'rich' or 'poor'
>durr productivity increases because of tech but tech isn't cool so the retards who were working with their hands and now using machines have no idea what the fuck they're doing
>durr more nigs in jail vs. whites there must certainly be something nefarious going on
>durr US pls halp ISIS is killing everyone--wait STOP IT STOP SPENDING MONEY ON MILITARY HURR DURR

who the fuck said piracy has no influence on sales? Did the parallel universe call in and tell us everything that would have happened if the person wasn't faced with an easy free alternative?

There is literally no study that can prove this, no matter what they claim they found. Stupid logic and even stupider people who read a headline and can't think for themselves.

Also

>trusting anything the UN says

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I don't see the issue. If the game industry dies, so be it. If they can save themselves, good for them. We have no moral obligation to save failing industries because they chose a non-functional or outdated business model.

Hey, Natsoc here. We don't just want to murder all the Jews - long-term, we want to murder or render helpless every non white ethnicity on the planet.

>'hey dude you play anything new recently?'
>yeah man I just finished X! it was pretty good, really liked the..

who gives a fuck about big companies trying to sell overpriced graphicscard benchmarks to grease-faced lonely male teenagers? why are you fucking tools so easily guilted into this bullshit?

m8 I dont have ethical problems eating meat and drinking milk. and this is literal slavery of other species whose members are held in absolutely horrific conditions their entire lives from birth to death.

If I felt like making the world a better place I'd start there instead of boosting the sales of bloated first-world corporations.

REALLY LIKED THE WHAT user
ARE YOU OKAY
user TALK TO ME

>why would I ever pay money for it
To support the developer so he can make more good video games instead of spending his time flipping burgers.

x.x

The flaw in your image is that people who make games rarely sell them, the majority of sales goes to publishers, sales platforms, and other meta(non-production relevant) team members.

The old model is flawed and unfair, I'd rather pay the developer directly and download through my own means than get it the typical way it's done today, having the developers share be widdled down to a few cents on the dollar.

You see all these other fuckers making a big stink like voice actors, artists, etc. meanwhile the actual producers themselves don't often get percentage deals, royalties, or anything other than a fixed rate for a finite period.

Even if it's impractical, in a perfect world I'd love to see games be free up front, you pay for them after you've evaluated them, and the payment is broken out humble bundle style where you chose the distribution percentages. If you liked the art the most, give the art team a big percentage, etc.

The value determination should be in the hands of the consumer.

You know this is a troll chart, right?

the games industry is doing more than fine
you don't have to feel guilty for not supporting Gabe's third yacht while you're struggling to make ends meet

just different mentalities. I grew up with nothing user. I'm frugal as shit by default -- I'm worse than a jew. I RE USE PAPER TOWELS AND PAPER PLATES

Okay, but do you want to work for free ?

Back to Sup Forums with you

Actual dev here, that went from indie to AAA and to middle-sized studio again, due to all corpo-bullshit in bigger companies.

Problem is much more complex that a silly comics can explain. The 'i just pirate it im not customer' behaviour hurts indie to middle devs, while is not damaging to big companies like EA or bethesda, basically anyone who is both investor, have developer studios AND is publisher - they sell copies by bulk to shops, its shop problem to sell them, while indie dev usually dont have this privilige, and every customer matters. While big companies have investors who want ROI after game (thats why most AAA games sucks - the division, battlefields, destiny 2 - all is made by accountants not devs - not literally of course).
Hence piracy is still a thing, those investors want to minimise risk of losing money, hence they make games dumber and dumber to cover more target audience, literally kids. And thats why destiny 2 for example is just an edgy sci-fi pew pew simualtor with fuckload of grind and loot, while original roots that came from halo games are almost impossible to track.

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This is actually correct

Piracy is unjustifiable theft

if you're so close to getting bankrupt that's because your game isn't popular enough

Do you enjoy the freedom.of non AAA though? I can see how horrible the inclusion patrol can get in these newer games. I rarely pirate and if I do it's something old or obscure that I literally can't buy anymore. But I'd say most game pirates are neets. My two shithead friends that pirate the most are literally jobless.

You're trying to make and sell a product in an environment where literally anyone can buy one copy and infinitely copy and share it as much as they want, effectively for free.

The problem isn't that people can copy and share things. The problem is that you're too dumb to have picked a better business model that isn't fucked by the supply/demand curve.

Don't make videogames, or computer software in general, if you want to sell it for money, it's that simple. By all means sell services, sell subscriptions, but trying to force this shit with videogames and whining about people sharing and copying data isn't going to stop anything. You cannot simply pluck information out of people's brains once you've given it to them, and computers are little different.

Stop fighting the intrinsic nature of information exchange and come up with a better way of selling your product/services that works around and not against, everyone's ability to freely and cheaply copy and share any program or idea you share with them.

Too bad most modern games are so shit that they don't warrant any attention.

You lost all credibility here
>The Racist Criminal Justice System
>1 in 15 Black men behind bars
Did you ever consider this might be because niggers gonna nig, and not because the system is racist?
Or should we just make rape and murder legal as to not offend niggers.

Origin Access is a great model for those with some patience. I'm not sure how scalable it is at its current price point, but I think all-you-can-eat subscription services are the future for most people and most games.

National Socialism promotes nationalism for all nations, not just the German nation.

I realize history isn't antifa's strong point, but Hitler's Germany was actually allied with Japan, and took in a lot of foreign military aid and volunteers from around the world, which included just about every race under the sun; even jews.

>"I won't make any money and I won't be able to make more games"

>games are art
>making games is only worth the effort if I make money doing it
CHOOSE ONE

I don't think anyone will buy into that without extremely effective game devs pumping out a multitude of good games every year.

AAA studios and publishers are, for the most part, enormously incompetent. Good games come from the indie crowd and the middle-sized studios, where teams rarely ever exceed 50 people and are more typically under 30.

Strawman. Theft is theft. An idea can be stolen even though it's copied for free. Prices should have gone down in the absence of material. Sure you can pirate but you'll always be a jamal deep down.

This just look at Factorio or Divinity: OS 2. Bounds ahead of triple AAA shit.

theft is theft
copyright infringement is not

Technically communism never failed, it's an ideal not a person.
What always fails when implementing communism is the leaders.

I tell my wealthy, non-NEET friends which games are worth their time.
As a result many of the developers of games that I've pirated have earned more money due to me pirating and playing the game.

sure jamal

>in communism property is owned by the people who put in the effort
Kek'd. Have a (You)

Ideas cannot be stolen, they can only be shared. If you don't want someone to share information, then you must not give them that information in the first place.

The only way to truly keep a secret is to never tell anyone. The same thing with ideas and software. If you don't want anyone to have your software, then you have to keep it to yourself and never share it.

And just to reiterate on the supply/demand curve in case there are people who don't know what it is:

The price of a product depends on the supply of the product and the demand for the product. The higher the demand, and the lower the supply, the higher the price will be, and vice versa. The problem with software is that the supply can be made effectively infinite with nothing more than a home copying machine (Which is one of the most basic and essential functions of your personal computer). Given that the supply is effectively infinite, it then does not matter what the demand is, the value of your product should not be more than zero in actual practice.

Now the interesting thing is that in spite of the dictations of the supply/demand curve, people are STILL willing to spend money on easily copied software. Even when this software is actually straight up given away, people will still pay for it. Why?

Because people are not idiots. They recognize actual effort and energy went into a product and are willing to give some of their own energy back to the developer to reward that expenditure of energy for an enjoyable product and encourage future growth and development.

There is no issue with videogames or software actually getting funded, but you cannot easily fleece customers in this setup - your entire business runs off public goodwill. This is an enormous problem for game developers, studios, and publishers, who cannot make good games.

For them, sharing and copying is an enormous problem, because nobody wants to reward their incompetence. So they take to using the threat of violence against their customers in order to force people to purchase their goods - this is done through copyright law, and bribes to police and government officials. These incompetents also expend a lot of money on ineffective anti-sharing efforts like DRM. When you purchase any products from these people, you are only rewarding their incompetence and their desires to further lock down and control everything and everyone.

This in particular is why you should never buy a game from any developer or studio that goes hog-wild on DRM and anti-copying measures. They're working to fundamentally take away individual freedom and control - and we can see this in practice just looking at major publishers or companies like microsoft and google.

Ultimately when we come down to it, the nature of information exchange does not support an actual software industry that lacks the goodwill of their customers. You can try to force people to buy your software using DRM restrictions on sharing and copying, you can shove subscription up everyone's ass if they want to use your product, but the more you throw that crap in there, the more resistance there is to using your product and the less inclined people will be to use it. In the long run, it's going to be the easily shared, easily copied products that survive the test of time - they don't need money to survive and they operate with the goodwill of the wider community.

>Also, someone would have to buy a copy if they wanted to make free copies of it.
Not necessarily. Games and movies are often leaked before they even hit the shelves. Some of the scene groups have people working for various distributors that will make sure some merchandise goes "missing" before it's available to the public.

First of all, normalfaggots and moralfags don't pirate. At all. If it wasn't the case music industry and similar would've fucking died a long time ago, it is extremely easy to rip music CDs.
Second of all, if I can get it for free, I won't pay for it. Life ain't fair, man up and deal with it. Nobody is stopping you from creating a game/software to rock my conscience and make me want to buy it to show my support.Until then though, get fucked, if you whine about piracy your product must've been shit to begin with. If you think you can jew me into buying mass effect andromeda tier shit games under the guise of AAA title you are very wrong.

Please don't call it piracy. That word has connotations that it is wrong or immoral. Instead, call it what it is; sharing with your neighbor.

>homeless people should get free houses
Actually, yes. Studies have shown that when homeless people get a house they can and will most likely become productive members of society.
The lack of a house (which could be from anything ranging from medical expenses to the fucked up American bank system) is a vicious cycle that prevents homeless people from getting a job and the medical/psychological help they need.
>a subsection of the main population comprised of higher eduated...
Considering how Congressmen do literally nothing but sit on their asses and pass whatever laws lobbyist want them to, I'd say it's a valid criticism.
Most of the wealth in America is inherited, so education and "hard work" don't even enter into the equation of being rich anymore.
>durrr 50% of the population lies under an arbitrary line...
If you don't understand why or how it's calculated, go back to middle school.
>productivity increases because of tech...
Productivity increased for a number of factors. Even if it was 100 % due to technological advance, it makes no sense that the wages would become stagnant while prices (especially in education and health) keep increasing; IF production is also on the rise.
This doesn't make sense economically and can only be explained by big companies and banks manipulating the market to maximize their profits.
>durr more nigs in jail vs. whites...
Yes. The War Against Drugs and racial profiling.
>durr US pls halp ISIS is killing everyone-
Except the US funded ISIS (or its parent organization, to be more precise) in the first place, and then decided to waste billions because they had "proof" a middle eastern country had nuclear weapons.

Fucking hell, I hate commies; but let's not pretend the US is this perfect society were the living conditions of their citizens are 100 % their fault or anything.

What a bunch of fucking cocks on this board. Talking about buying expensive keyboards, graphics cards, battlestation pissing contests. Yet you don't even have the fucking decency to pay for the games you play using all this shit.

Fuck me. Anyone in here who is saying that piracy doesn't equate to lost sales is either embarrassed of themselves or just a retard.

If you go by that logic you must be one of these same mythical people who go and buy a movie ticket after watching the movie at home, just to have supported the studio.

Fuck off.

>statistics show most violent crimes are commited by black people
>"HURR NIGS GONA NIG DINDU DINDU KEK THEYRE SUBHUMAN NUMBERS DONT LIE"
>statistics show the vast majority of rapes are commited by men
>"#NOTALLMEN IM NOT A RAPIST #MRA SJW DINDU DINDU KEKS ARE EXAGERATING NUMBERS DON'T MEAN SHIT IF THEY'RE NOT ON THE DAILY STORMER"
Sup Forumsjeet logic.
Nevermind the fact that the statistics reflect the same shit seen in other countries when a specific demographic is segregated*, or the vast amount of cultural and historical reasons that led them to their current state. *See the history of yakuza and how the same "drop" in IQ was found on them even though they're "racially" identical to other Japanese.

you don't know what it's like to be hungry and to have nothing to eat. every meal cherished. get the fuck out you privileged middle class faggot

this desu
this is why we need to forcibly feminize all men

Yeah. Either do you.

>new game
>$9.99
try $59.99 plus $39.99 season pass

We're talking about the exact same war that made the US ally with the USSR you retard.
Germany allied with other countries because it needed help, not because they didn't believe in racial purity (a ludicrous idea by itself, especially coming from a country that was but a pastiche of other, older, cultures and people from all over Europe.)

nobody believes that posts like this are genuine

these are the kind of posts that only come from paid shills

Racial purity does not necessitate the annihilation of all other races.

Nothing about Hitler's Germany indicated that they were hellbent on genociding most of the planet - this is all antifa-tier historical revisionism.

the majority of violent crime is committed by men because of... testosterone! however ever more violent crime is committed by black men. you could say it's because of systematic oppression, but then you'd be retarded, because (almost) all violent crime being done by most men is not systematic, it's biological. Make the next step.

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I'm sure Harrison Ford makes just enough money even tho I pirate BR49 and the SW films

>Well?

It's a good thing. Video games a shitty, nonfree software that ruins people's childhoods by causing them to miss key developmental epochs by sitting indoors infront of a shitty nintendo or whatever.

If the video game industry goes out of business than the world will be a better place and you know it op.

That seems needlessly complex. Your base concept is already achieved by indie games with little overhead. That said, that overhead justifies its existance by selling more games for the company overall.

Sup Forums especially has a real hard time with the concept of mass media. Just because you don't like I does not mean it's bad.

mods mods mods

Now you're just denying My Struggle and the concentration camps. Now THAT'S revisionism.

There's nothing to indicate a biological component to those crimes. There is, however, extensive proof that it's a socioeconomical and cultural problem.

Nothing in Mein Kampf had anything to do with genociding the planet.

Nor does the existence of concentration camps infer that the Germans wanted to genocide everyone.

Let it be a reminder, for history revisionists like yourself, that the US created concentration camps of Japanese citizens, and after the war's conclusion, the Allied powers created concentration camps for the German civilians, as well as German POW's who - unfortunately, - were not labeled as POW's and therefore didn't get any of the protections of the Geneva convention.

Would you say that the US wanted to genocide all Japanese, or that the Allies wanted to genocide all Germans because of the existence of concentration camps? If not, then why claim that the Germans did because of their own concentration camps?

Ironically testosterone doesn't even have a proven causal link with violence. Men with more testosterone are not, actually, more violent. It's just another aphorism, another meme by those who hate men and want to see male accomplishments destroyed.

But isn't your last like about the green guy the only real problem with using a free version? He was clearly interested and about to purchase until he was told about the free copy. I would say it is a minimum of stealing intellectual property. I think most people agree that games not currently on market are ok to emulate but we should try to buy games when we can.

No, I wouldn't because the US didn't murder systematically those citizens nor did the US' rhetoric lead people to the idea of racial purity and murdering specific populations like the Nazi's rhetoric did.

Ideas cannot be property, and since they cannot be property, they cannot be stolen.

Again, the only way to maintain an idea to your own exclusive use and no-one else's, is to keep it to yourself and never share it with anyone.

Nope.

There is a difference between theft and copyright violation. These are very different legal terms.

If you're still confused then you can always commit seppuku.

games are the only thing I never pirate because 1.) the cracks are always shady and wonky as fuck 2.) online usually doesn't work 3.) they're not that fucking expensive.

I still pirate the shit out of $1k+ "professional" software because I don't have that kind of money to throw around on toys. I'd have never ever even considered buying it in the first place anyway, just because of the price; but now that I know how to use the software, it's much more likely that I could get *someone else* to buy it (ie. I suggest it to someone who actually works in that field, i get a job that requires that type of software, etc.).

Can confirm. If I like the game I buy it from GOG. If I want to play it multiplayer for more than a week and it isn't on GOG, I buy it on steam. Usually my requirements for buying the game are
>is on Mac and Linux and isn't terribly ported
>doesn't have shitty visuals or music
>doesn't have DLCs (exception: multiplayer games where DLCs can be owned by the host player or are purely aesthetic)
>preferably DRM-free, if not it should be cheap
>isn't made by a Zenimax company (Bethesda, etc)
>can be played for at least 8 hours before getting boring

>>is on Mac

and then there's this faggot

Stop pulling "facts" out of your ass. Inmates (including female ones) have a higher level of testosterone in their bodies, that's a fact. Lead was prohibited from being used in fuels because it made people aggressive and upped their testosterone levels in the short term. Male elephants and monkeys become extremely aggressive during mating seasons and puberty because their testosterone levels rise.
There's plenty of evidence to support that testosterone makes people more aggressive.

Were gas chambers a joke then? Was Hitler's plan to repopulate eastern Europe with Germans and dislace native population also a joke?

The thing that I don't understand about stormfags is why they think that Hitler somehow had a monopoly on nationalism and antisemitism? Both of these were normal in western nations until retard Hitler came along and ruined it for ever.

Precisely why you shouldn't then ascribe genocidal intent against the entire world to the Germans. There is absolutely nothing that exists to support your assertion that Germany wanted to genocide the Japanese (whom they allied with), or the Chinese, Americans, French, Indians, Arabs, Africans - many of the countries comprising these areas actually fought on the Axis side of the war, even.

Germany's goals were clear:
1. Remove Jewish influence in their country
2. Break the chains of the current world economic cartels
3. Protect Europe from Communism and the USSR
4. Reform Germany and unite her people
5. Begin a thousand year Reich ruling Europe

The Germans never intended to conquer the entire world and never intended to genocide the entire world. These are historical revisionisms at the hands of the ill-educated or the propagandized.