Who is the most important single person in history other than religious figures, and why is it Hammurabi?

Who is the most important single person in history other than religious figures, and why is it Hammurabi?

it's Plato you retard

It's Newton by far.
Ur-Nammu had a codex before Hammurabi.
Kill yourself.

Why is Hammurabi that relevant to you? There were other lawmakers before him, we just found his code perfectly preserved and that's why he is so famous nowadays.

It's hard to tell anyway.

I think you mean harambe*

Yeah, but you can always argue that without Fibonacci all the western science/maths would have had a really hard time trying to advance. And then you can go back to arabs/indians and the line goes back to the origin of civilizations. As a say before, it's really hard to tell.

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Napoleon. His total war on Europe has changed just everything.

And the discovery of America and the trade routes established by portuguese didn't? The age of discoveries was by far more relevant than what Napoleon did.

It was important too.
But Napoleon is even more important. He has destroyed the HRE and triggered German nationalism.

That's because you are german. Without Columbus or Vasco de Gama all the history of the world would be totally different. There is no Napoleon without America.

>That's because you are german
Yes, I see it from another perspective because I am German, but just think the chain of happenings. I consider both world wars as aftermath of the Napoleonic wars. Even today, 200 years later there is still no order in Europe because Napoleon has fucked our shit up.

What about ottoman expansion that drove the portuguese to find new trade routes? That's far more influential

You could replace Columbus, da Gama, Diaz, whoever with another captain and end up with the same result more or less

If not for Napoleon the french revolution implodes on itself in the late 1790's and the political rearrangement of Europe and stuff like Code Napoleon never happens

without the Vienna Congress there might've been no internal peace in 19th century Europe and Europeans might never have had the strength to dominate the world like they did

But what drove Ottoman expansion?

Alexandur mikli.

Everybody knows it is Caesar, retard.

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Caesar did the inevitable, if you say Caesar you should be saying either Alexander or Phillip II.

Literally who

Caesar's legacy was way more important.
Alexander's empire crumbled in a few decades after his death.

He still brought hellenic culture to the barbarians

Rurik ofcourse.
HE WAS A FINN BTW

Just because he failed personally doesn't mean his legacy is less important. As I said, Caesar was inevitable while Philly and Alex actually radically changed things in ways no one predicted.

>Without Columbus or Vasco de Gama
There would have been others. They are only famous because they were first, not because what they did was thought to be impossible.

I believe that your question is retarded. Not only because importance here is highly subjective, but also because almost every prominent person in history had a team of people to support him while he was simply a "face" of that group (or multiple groups).

Alexander didn't fail personally. He failed to secure the future of his legacy. He didn't create a structure to preserve his empire after his death.

Sorry niggas, virctor coming trough.
>Genghis Khan

We all know this ruskie. It's assumed we are talking about all the people and works behind them. That's why no one is saying anyone from modern times.

100% this.

How come that the Dutch are not only the tallest and strongest, but also the most intelligent people in Europe?

Well, mah murikan friend, the question of how in the world would you fuckin' decide who is the most important is still valid

Search no more.

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>Alexander's empire crumbled in a few decades after his death.
>He failed to secure the future of his legacy. He didn't create a structure to preserve his empire after his death.

That's because he did not care about his legacy.
He wanted to rule the world for eternity as a God, and when he figured out that it was impossible he just became bitter and angry. He intentionally let things fall apart because if he could not rule his empire no one would.

Important to what?
Fate of human race? Such person is bound to be connected nuclear warfare, since human existence as a whole was never threatened before. Khrushchev basically saved the world by stopping the crisis.

Human advancement? Whatever homo sapiens first realised to strap a sharp stone to stick and hunt bigger game with it.

Human "race"? The history of Europe is so turbulent and random and too many people feel crucial

Human thought? I think people tend to overrated the greeks, their ideas were bound to appear at some point anyway, and they didn't even bother to attempt applying any of it.

You are overthinking it.
This is our version of batman vs superman. We all know who would win, come up with some silly reason why the guy you like is best and post it.

>Human thought? I think people tend to overrated the greeks, their ideas were bound to appear at some point anyway, and they didn't even bother to attempt applying any of it.
this

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First leader of the free world who is also a person of color

Johannes Gutenberg

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Literally Hitler.

>brougth one of the worst wars upon humantiy
>changed the world completely, triggering "west" and "east"
>changed the way wars are fought
>made the jews the real chosen ones (muh 6 gorrilion get out of prisson card)
>first big conquerer we now literally everything about
>changed the way we look at other people (muh racism)
>by losing allowed the allies to ruin the west for ever and slowly wipe out white Europe

Sargon of akkad

Ghengis Khan had bigger impact

Tell me any impact he has today.
>inb4 muh 0,0001% of all humans

>>by losing allowed the allies to ruin the west for ever and slowly wipe out white Europe
hmm...

lost at that image

It's a real pity what islam (or monotheistic religions in general) has done to those once great civilizations. Imagine what they would have to offer now.

Makes you think, doesn't it?

Isn't it racist to refer one's skin tone?

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without him ww2 wouldn't have happened that way, but
>brougth one of the worst wars upon humantiy
industrialisation of war has already started. if ww2 wouldn't have been the worst war it would have been the next one
>changed the world completely, triggering "west" and "east"
west and east as political antagonists were already established
>changed the way wars are fought
>changed the way we look at other people (muh racism)
wasn't him but hundreds of scientists, engineers and soldiers
>made the jews the real chosen ones (muh 6 gorrilion get out of prisson card)
that was satan
>first big conquerer we now literally everything about
so what
>by losing allowed the allies to ruin the west for ever and slowly wipe out white Europe
matter of time with the development of third world

thats 0.0001% more than you bitch

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Martin Luther, though the history of the protestant revolution shows that eventually someone would have successfully rebelled against the Pope he certainly opened the floodgates.