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>You dont have to use the gnu userland. >There are various other userlands that you can use with Linux Yet you don't see people who use Android calling their operating system Android/Linux, nor just Linux.
Samuel Mitchell
Android is a form of Linux. It is Busybox/Android Linux
Cameron Nguyen
The GNU project asks (it doesn't force) for equal mention/credit for the system they developed since 1983.
Eli Jackson
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.
Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.
One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?
(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.
Daniel Clark
Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.
You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.
Carter Roberts
To problematic with this pasta is that it strawmans into "No, the name of the kernel is Linux, not GNU/Linux". So, gently kys.
Oliver Cooper
Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD?
Lincoln Stewart
>In 2008, we found that GNU packages made up 15% of the “main” repository of the gNewSense GNU/Linux distribution. Linux made up 1.5%.
How are those numbers today?
Gavin King
>gNewSense Lets pick the most obscure distro to make a majority distro assumption
Isaac Myers
Looking for a new, modern distribution for a workstation and a desktop. Void Linux and NixOS have caught my interest. I've used Debian as my main (and only) distribution for years, but would like to try a newer (allegedly faster and better) package manager instead of apt.
Ian Russell
Arch pacman
Henry Howard
Can we all agree that KDE has made the most contributions to GNU/Linux out of any DE? Even compared to GNOME, KDE has given us more high quality software that's usable independently in any DE or WM of your choosing like krita, kdenlive, and kdialog which is far superior to the GTK file chooser which for years even to this day they've ignored the file picker bug that kdialog has had right out of the box.
Jackson Hill
I have zero kde software on my install
Kevin Carter
And you didn't even mention Dolphin.
Justin Roberts
I dont use KDE.
Josiah Carter
communism is very very nasty, and by extension, so are the GPL and Richard stallman
Dominic Diaz
I've used Arch in the past and I did not like it. I felt like I was relying too much on AUR and I experienced a few outright broken and abandoned packages. I also have no need to be rolling on the bleeding edge. I am aware that Void is a "bleeding edge" distribution too but it's still way slower than Arch.
Noah Smith
Sup Forums pls go
Kevin Adams
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Christian Young
>Falling for an obvious Sup Forums false flag
Wyatt Peterson
I don't use a DE but I tend to use a ton of packages from Xfce. Qt programs look inconsistent and are not that good, Konsole and Krita being the exceptions. That being said, KWin is one of the finest Window Managers available.
Aiden Torres
When you use a DE you use unix WRONG
Nicholas Foster
>unix You mean that ancient system from the 70s? Who still uses that?
Nicholas Edwards
What is the best terminal emulator?
Benjamin Wilson
...
Cameron Carter
anyone know why dmenu wouldn't work in KDE? when I run it nothing shows up
Adam Long
Konsole.
Zachary Gutierrez
The one I'm using. printf 'foo\nbar\n' | dmenu
Lucas Turner
rxvt-unicode. I don't see the advantages of st
Angel Hernandez
My kingdom for a declarative distro (like guixsd or nixos) with rolling releases and no systemd
Luke Flores
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David Anderson
xfce4-terminal
Joseph Nelson
Is it comfortable to write jn Java on Linux? what are some languages comfier to develop in on Linux than Windows?
Dylan Myers
>printf 'foo\nbar\n' | dmenu>> well that makes it show up but the only entries are foo and bar
Grayson Barnes
That's the functionality. What did you expect?
Brody Howard
The best language for GNU/Linux is C.
James Thomas
normally I'd just run dmenu and it has a list of installed programs in i3 it does that at least
Nathaniel Thompson
Python is one, no doubt. I've never actually used in on Windows, but unless you're using something like cygwin I can't imagine it feels as "native" to win as it does to lin
Jordan Foster
Upterm
Blake Hill
That's dmenu_run.
Tyler Brooks
oh, I'm just being stupid then
Nathaniel Richardson
Firefox isn't respecting the local time of my system, using universal time instead. It's the only software on my system doing that(tried QupZilla, Telegram and KDE's own settings). Also verified the timezone with timedatectl and it is set on my local time. What could be causing this behavior?
Luke Martinez
your distro?
Leo Walker
Rate this dmenu kill wrapper I just made. pid="$(ps aux | sed 1d | dmenu -l 15 -p kill: | awk '{ print $2 }')"; test "${pid}" && kill "${pid}"
Hit ESC or ^C to kill nothing. Also, which scriptlets do you use with dmenu?
William Edwards
Jesus christ. Added to the can't post-cuck list: >ls -l >ps aux
Robert Brooks
>ls -l I actually had this problem a few days ago, it didn't dawn on me until hours later that this might have been the culprit. Honestly, if a website needs to drop requests containing these strings as a security measure then the site is probably extremely insecure already
Benjamin Diaz
AFAIK this isn't Sup Forums only - it's actually cloudflare. The same problem appears on other cloudflare protected imageboards too, so you basically can't even ask for fixing this.
Caleb Moore
A while back, I was reading a Linux story and something was mentioned about encrypted home folders. They said that even if they’re encrypted, your /var folder is vulnerable and bad people can still get info on you by accessing it. Is it true? If so, what can they find out? Should I just go with full HD encryption instead?
Samuel Richardson
Whats a good place for Linux stories?
William Lee
Well it was a story on a pc news site. Can’t remember what. It’s been a few months.
Mason Russell
I'm trying to install wine-staging on ubuntu and followed the steps here: wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu.
You should go with a professional therapy for your paranoia instead.
Anthony Sullivan
install apt-transport-https or replace https in the winehq sources.list file with plain http The files are signed with gpg so there is no problem using plain https.
Ethan Thomas
Lets speak about GNU/Linux machines. I sure I'll buy one of those Librem phones but now I also hear about ataribox runnig GNU/Linux. Anybody got info on that?
Zachary Martin
I don't think so because you can't modify files in var without root.
Owen Phillips
lwn.net
Levi Clark
thanks
Grayson Powell
go to ataribox.com
Hudson Peterson
It’s not paranoia. I’ve been robbed before. Have you? I used basic home folder encryption and luckily I’ve not seen any malicious activity on any of my bank accounts or credit cards. Having your financial information stolen is scary as fuck and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. I guess the dumbfuck erased the HD and started fresh.
Tyler Rivera
Arch
Ian Foster
GPL has a capitalist incentive also. Did you even read the GPL licenses?
Jonathan Russell
the installer for eclipse i downloaded wanted to install it in my home folder, but i changed it to /opt/eclipse. now i can't launch it by clicking or adding it to th e path, i have to execute sudo ./eclipse which is uncomfortable
should i reinstall it in my personal folder like the installer said, or do sudo chmod 755 /opt/ as i found in google?
thanks for any help
Aiden Wood
Who owns /opt/eclipse/?
Austin James
I did, is the first time I am tempted to subscribe to a mailing list in a long time.
Landon Moore
i can't look it right now but i ran the installer as sudo since otherwise i would have to install it in my home folder, so i guess root owns /opt/eclipse
Cooper Martinez
do you store your banking info on your pc?
Aiden Adams
does chromium have a content window modifier like firefox does? I want to be able to open up certain files like midis using a script to invoke foobar2000.
Henry Taylor
It uses xdg mime types so what ever you set up is what it will open with
Wait, what? Cloudflare/Sup Forums drops packets containing [REDACTED]? What the actual fuck? This might explain why I was having trouble posting an image the other day. Perhaps it coincidentally contained a forbidden string inside it.
Elijah Ramirez
meant for can't i link it in the path but with sudo privileges somehow?
Wyatt Wilson
Change the owner and permissions... Then put it in your path and run it as "eclipse"
Carson Hernandez
Pic related is an actual paragraph from a man page (resize2fs). Why are Linux devs so unprofessional?
Ethan Wright
Because they are actually microsoft devs.
Brandon Nelson
inane
I actually like the newer standard definition (kilo/kibi). It makes things sane and easy to distinguish. Whoever wrote this is a fagit.,
Juan Cooper
>some political correct folks call it kilometers, while one kilometer is REALLY one mile!!! fucking americans
Isaiah King
Ugh. Autistic assholes like this cause all sorts of subtle bugs and confusion. When different people use different units, you get billion dollar space probes crashing into mars. A kilo means one thousand and nothing else. A kilobyte is officially defined as 1000 bytes.
What the hell is the point of using base 2 units if you are just going to pick ones that are as close as possible to powers of 10?
Elijah Nelson
Under void linux, how different is installing a package by compiling it from gentoo?
Joseph Campbell
>A kilobyte is officially defined as 1000 bytes. No, a kiliobyte is 1024, 2^10. No one uses si units, OSI or gtfo
Dylan Carter
Go back to Windows. Even retards know that kilo means 1000. This is an official standard, deal with it.
Pretty comfy. For the url parameters consult: duckduckgo.com/params Replace $BROWSER with your browser if you didn't set up that variable.
Also, which scriptlets do you use with dmenu?
Parker Hall
>current year >not using rofi
Brandon Long
kilobyte = 1000 kibibyte = 1024 it's not that difficult
Oliver Thomas
Exactly how many Kilobytes are in a Gigabyte then?
Leo Stewart
Gigabyte or Gibibyte?
Wyatt Rivera
Well, it's common for, say, "M" or "MB" to represent MiB on unix and linux. A lot of these programs existed before decimal prefixes did. Only different they don't include a rant against "political correctness" in their manual, nor make it intentionally confusing by using decimal naming. >What the hell is the point of using base 2 units if you are just going to pick ones that are as close as possible to powers of 10? Are you suggesting decimal prefixes are the proper units? Because they're not - sectors on your drive aren't in powers of 10.
Chase Butler
>on unix and linux >>>/reddit/
Nolan Sanchez
1000^2 KB = 1 GB
Anthony Rivera
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Lincoln Anderson
Shut it, twerp. Many programs still used today predate Linux.
Benjamin Reyes
And they aren't Unix nor Linux programs.
Brayden Ward
This. Anyone arguing against this has serious problems.
