>“I think that expectation will be met. You’ll be hearing more from us over the next coming weeks regarding that.” >the battery life is “really, really good”. >confirmed not be that cheap at release: “Over time, there’s going to be a portfolio of devices from manufacturers. We’ve had some conversations with other OEMs too, for future devices, that are very exciting about bringing their own spin,” said Bernard.
The interesting part for me: >Regarding the chips being made available for the Windows 10 Snapdragon program, McGuire said: “We are starting with [the Snapdragon] 835, and I think what you’ll see from us as we roll out our next-generation platforms, we’ll be rolling those out strategically…with mobile PC in mind.” >“You’ll see an evolved roadmap with mobile PCs in it more definitively than in the past. You’ll see an evolution of different tiers of devices,” he continued. >However, he added that Windows 10 laptops wouldn’t be retrofitted with existing Qualcomm chips, other than the Snapdragon 835: “As far as backward, we’re not going to look backward.”
Intel won let them emulate x86 without that it's worthless
Adam Morris
Not really, Windows used to support tons of different CPU architectures back in the WinNT days
Nathan Evans
>Not really, Windows used to support tons of different CPU architectures back in the WinNT days It did. The point is that the software didn't. If not for the legacy software nobody in their right mind would ever think about using windows or x86 right now and we would all be running ARM based desktops with Linux that would be an advanced user ecosystem with user-friendly GUI for the dumb, photoshop and other shit everybody needs
Joseph Morgan
>Intel won let them emulate x86 There's literally nothing Intel can do about it.
Jaxson Sanchez
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Jordan Roberts
Also they technically already have a emulation license and code base from when they bought out Connectix VirtualPC which used to be for PowerPC macs.
Cross compiling isnt that difficult. Most people dont have inline assembly in their code.
Carson Jackson
Yeah, just like all those high powered ARM machines in the server market.
Evan Allen
>Cross compiling isnt that difficult. Most people dont have inline assembly in their code. It's a pain in the ass nobody is ready to do. Remember Itanium?
Jacob Brown
how will that matter with common language interface? praise based Microsoft
Blake Foster
Why would i get ARM trash that is limited to emulating 32-bit shit when i can get 4.5W Zen or Intel?
Lucas Nelson
There's literally nothing Intel can do to stop them from emulating x86 and x86-64
John Gomez
>x86 Yes, the patents expired. >x86-64 No, because AMD will join them in protecting their duopoly.
Kevin Murphy
Copyright doesn't protect an ISA from being emulated. That's how transmeta and elbrus CPUs execute x86 code.
Anthony Baker
Patents* don't*
Colton Turner
battery life :^) Windows RT had a pretty good battery life back then.
Hudson Murphy
>battery life :^) >4.5W shit >VERSUS >4.5W shit ?
Andrew Miller
>trustedreviews.com/news/4-things-learned-microsofts-windows-10-snapdragon-laptops-today-3309055 >>“I think that expectation will be met. You’ll be hearing more from us over the next coming weeks regarding that.” >>the battery life is “really, really good”. >>confirmed not be that cheap at release: “Over time, there’s going to be a portfolio of devices from manufacturers. We’ve had some conversations with other OEMs too, for future devices, that are very exciting about bringing their own spin,” said Bernard. >The interesting part for me: >>Regarding the chips being made available for the Windows 10 Snapdragon program, McGuire said: “We are starting with [the Snapdragon] 835, and I think what you’ll see from us as we roll out our next-generation platforms, we’ll be rolling those out strategically…with mobile PC in mind.” >>“You’ll see an evolved roadmap with mobile PCs in it more definitively than in the past. You’ll see an evolution of different tiers of devices,” he continued. >>However, he added that Windows 10 laptops wouldn’t be retrofitted with existing Qualcomm chips, other than the Snapdragon 835: “As far as backward, we’re not going to look backward.” neat
Nicholas Wilson
It's not, Itanium got fucked since no magical VLIW compilers will ever exist
David Perez
I dunno, ATi was using magical VLIW compiler for their VLIW5/VLIW4 stuff which was nice for graphics.
Brayden Reyes
> (OP) >>trustedreviews.com/news/4-things-learned-microsofts-windows-10-snapdragon-laptops-today-3309055 >>>“I think that expectation will be met. You’ll be hearing more from us over the next coming weeks regarding that.” >>>the battery life is “really, really good”. >>>confirmed not be that cheap at release: “Over time, there’s going to be a portfolio of devices from manufacturers. We’ve had some conversations with other OEMs too, for future devices, that are very exciting about bringing their own spin,” said Bernard. >>The interesting part for me: >>>Regarding the chips being made available for the Windows 10 Snapdragon program, McGuire said: “We are starting with [the Snapdragon] 835, and I think what you’ll see from us as we roll out our next-generation platforms, we’ll be rolling those out strategically…with mobile PC in mind.” >>>“You’ll see an evolved roadmap with mobile PCs in it more definitively than in the past. You’ll see an evolution of different tiers of devices,” he continued. >>>However, he added that Windows 10 laptops wouldn’t be retrofitted with existing Qualcomm chips, other than the Snapdragon 835: “As far as backward, we’re not going to look backward.” >neat > >It's not, Itanium got fucked since no magical VLIW compilers will ever exist > >I dunno, ATi was using magical VLIW compiler for their VLIW5/VLIW4 stuff which was nice for graphics. > >Patents* don't* > >Copyright doesn't protect an ISA from being emulated. That's how transmeta and elbrus CPUs execute x86 code. > (OP) >Intel won let them emulate x86 >without that it's worthless
Josiah Richardson
What the fuck are you doing?
Robert Smith
> (You) >What the fuck are you doing? > (You) >> (OP) >>>trustedreviews.com/news/4-things-learned-microsofts-windows-10-snapdragon-laptops-today-3309055 >>>>“I think that expectation will be met. You’ll be hearing more from us over the next coming weeks regarding that.” >>>>the battery life is “really, really good”. >>>>confirmed not be that cheap at release: “Over time, there’s going to be a portfolio of devices from manufacturers. We’ve had some conversations with other OEMs too, for future devices, that are very exciting about bringing their own spin,” said Bernard. >>>The interesting part for me: >>>>Regarding the chips being made available for the Windows 10 Snapdragon program, McGuire said: “We are starting with [the Snapdragon] 835, and I think what you’ll see from us as we roll out our next-generation platforms, we’ll be rolling those out strategically…with mobile PC in mind.” >>>>“You’ll see an evolved roadmap with mobile PCs in it more definitively than in the past. You’ll see an evolution of different tiers of devices,” he continued. >>>>However, he added that Windows 10 laptops wouldn’t be retrofitted with existing Qualcomm chips, other than the Snapdragon 835: “As far as backward, we’re not going to look backward.” >>neat > > >> >>It's not, Itanium got fucked since no magical VLIW compilers will ever exist > >> >>I dunno, ATi was using magical VLIW compiler for their VLIW5/VLIW4 stuff which was nice for graphics. >> > >> >>Copyright doesn't protect an ISA from being emulated. That's how transmeta and elbrus CPUs execute x86 code. >Also they technically already have a emulation license and code base from when they bought out Connectix VirtualPC which used to be for PowerPC macs. > >Cross compiling isnt that difficult. Most people dont have inline assembly in their code.
