If you want help: >State the budget & currency for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, try to include information like response time, refresh rate, resolution, and size
CPUs: >A8 9600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds without a dedicated graphics card. R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >i3 8100 - Better budget CPU, but wait for cheaper motherboards, only coffee lake cpu in steady stock >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (8400) or multithreaded/general (1600) use CPUs, The 8400 is having stock issues and the platform cost is more than that of the 1600 so keep that in mind. 1600x is only worth it if you are scared of overclocking. >R7 1700 / i7 8700k - Currently the best mainstream chips both companies have to offer. Note: 1700x/1800x is basically the same as 1700 when OCed, and 8700k is out of stock pretty much everywhere. >Used Xeon / Threadripper - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work
RAM: >Check your Mobo's QVL before buying RAM or look for user reports >Ryzen CPUs benefit a lot from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
GPUs: Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4Gb 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match, Vega 56 if you can get it for under $450 1440p >GTX 1070 / 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 4K >1080Ti
How big of an issue would one milliemeter be? Example my cpu cooler is 169mm tall and my case will only fit a 170mm tall cooler.
Bentley Cox
you should be fine
Cooper Harris
Built my PC in august and I'm already planning on upgrading my gpu to a 1060 6GB soon. How long will that card keep me good for? Assuming I plan on only playing 1080/60fps.
My next upgrade after will be faster ram.
Jaxson Turner
Inbound
Hudson Lewis
Hope you bought a delidding kit as well. 75 at stock with a $1000 refrigerator.
Blake Gray
DELID THIS
Jonathan Walker
I am, I already own a rocket 88
Cameron Brooks
Are there any high bandwith sli bridges that work with the cards next to each other (i.e. In the 3rd and 4th pcie slots)
Dominic Rogers
>multigpu in 2017
Liam Cox
Does anyone have any vesa mount suggestions? i need one that supports a single 32" monitor. All the ones i can find only support up to 27". I know they mount the same but whether or not they'll support the weight and torque is another question. Alternatively does anyone know of any stands that mount via vesa, are good enough for a 32" and have full swivel? Ideally I'd try to steal one of a predator or a benq cad one.
Daniel Powell
top fucking kek
Lucas Myers
Dual 1080 ti = 4k 60fps Single 1080 ti = 4k sub 60fps
Christian Perry
4k 144hz?
Jackson Turner
>4k 144hz
Hudson Reed
Hi, how can I cut costs with this build? My original budget was £800 and I value having the M.2 SSD..
Wyatt Anderson
Guys help, should I get a new gtx 1080 for $469 or should I wait for the 1070ti?
Logan Price
Ms2 has to go, no way around it.
Daniel Stewart
>managed to keep my full 1080 build excluding monitor to very happy with results >search through 1440p/144hz monitors >$900+ Life isn't fair
Tyler Gonzalez
Replace your 960 EVO to 850 EVO, having a NVMe SSD is not going to give you extra performance unless you do VM, Scratch Disks, and deal with large files all the time
John James
$469 sounds pretty cheap desu. Is it on sale or something? Or a FE?
how is Ryzen for emulating? specifically PS2 games. will it compare to my i5? been thinking of upgrading since my rig's getting a little dated and I've been looking for an excuse to upgrade. also got a couple of flaky HDDs that need replacing. 7970's a tough little shit, but its starting to show its age with some newer games.
>inb4 animu in crystaldiskinfo
downloaded the wrong version and never bothered to fix it. deal.
Grayson Hill
>>$900+ not sure what the conversion from usd to ausd is, but I have this and it was a pretty great deal
That's a good question. I have a 5820k (which I'm happy with) but there are still a few PCSX2 games that can get sluggish, even at 4.0 GHz. I think Ryzen single threaded is a touch better than Haswell in other games, not sure about PCSX2 though. What games give you trouble currently with the 4690K? I've always been tempted to make a mini-ITX PCSX2 machine for fun.
Jacob Jones
1700 has no cooler. Is stock really good enough?
Aiden Richardson
Better than fx was, I think Intel still gets the better emulator support. I wonder why
Justin Scott
Just gonna leave this here.
Jace Lopez
and this
Josiah Murphy
Yes it does retard
Carter Martinez
the ryzen wraith is the greatest stock cooler ever. it handles OCing like a breeze and is dead silent.
Logan Williams
cheapest is $734 sent from US
Nathan Butler
>1700 has no cooler
umm
Nathaniel Miller
>What games give you trouble currently with the 4690K? mainly the Jak and Daxter series, since those games were coded real funky or something. have to run them in software mode otherwise the graphics are beyond fucked. runs full speed in hardware mode, but everythings garbled/shadows are fucked/characters eyes are broken, etc. software mode has various slowdowns in spots depending on what speedhacks are used. most other games I've tried run fine with a little tweaking.
Josiah Watson
I know it comes with a stock cooler. I'm asking if the stock cooler is good enough, like if you OC I imagine you would need an aftermarket cooler.
Jacob Lewis
so i can cut the costs down. pcpartpicker.com/list/WyVwxY $100~ cheaper without any real performance loss. any reason why you don't have an hdd in your build?
Joshua Wilson
Yes it oc 0.3ghz at least
John Hall
you can push it about as high as ryzen will go with any cooler, ryzen isn't the best overclocker.
Juan Garcia
yes, the cooler can be pushed to the limits of the cpu, but i'd recommend maxing out at 3.7, as you can do this on every board at stock voltage and the wraith is made to handle it.
Wyatt Price
So i tried the 8400 out with cemu and new super mario brothers. Was runing up to 95% on one core but was able to hold 60fps fine. Only times frames dropped was when the whole program gets hung up on loading or texture or whatever the hell it does. Very pleased with the performance
>but muh 8-series >7700k literally behind the 8700k by one fps LOL!
Alexander Wright
The 3gb 1060 is better investment than the 1050 ti or the 1060 could give me issues in the long term for the "lack" of vram?
Joseph Myers
hard to tell
Jaxon Phillips
Oh, thanks! and yeah, I already have a 1TB hdd
Connor Adams
the 1060 6g is only ~$50 more than the 3g, so save up a little more and go with that.
Jackson Morales
the ryzen stock cooler is good and quiet.
Carson Young
Also what was the reason for switching the motherboard and graphics card to these? They are the same price
Angel Nelson
Listen can the stock cooler handle 90° F weather
Eli Collins
Making a 1600x build what would be a good mobo?
Michael Myers
As long as 1070s are overpriced why shouldnt I just buy a 980TI?
Angel Foster
this is actually pretty helpful, thanks.
This actually makes me want to get the 7700k now
Sebastian Gomez
why would that graph make you want to get the 7700k? if anything it should make you want to get a ryzen.
Benjamin Gomez
the 1600x is a waste. the 1600 can be pushed just as hard, and it comes with a great stock cooler. the best ryzen mobo is the asrock b350 pro4.
Aaron Brown
yes, but if you're that worried buy a 212 EVO.
Logan Rivera
But I’m probably a fucking retard who doesn’t know how to overclock
Charles Gray
I haven't used a desktop computer in almost 8 years. Could you guys please give your opinions on using 24 vs 27 inch, how much of a difference that makes etc? I ask because its about a $200 gap here
Brody Bell
And for that mobo what would you recommend for RAM.
Daniel Price
overclocking is easy when you get a good board, specifically an asrock. literally takes 15 seconds to OC. corsair vengeance lpx 3000 c15 is the most compatible ryzen ram, and its on the cheaper side of ddr4. always go with that.
John Martin
not only do you need faster ram, but you need more of it. 8gb is basically the bare minimum these days
hold off on the 1060 for a few months (6) and get a Volta. being in the know (or at least keeping up to date) you should be able to unload the 1060 prior to Volta launch for about $200, so keep your ear to the ground
Joseph Stewart
amd shills out in force
Nathan Gonzalez
27 is overkill. buy a 144hz 24 for buttery smooth 1080p on any half decent build.
Thomas Myers
Because its been so long I'm spoiling myself with a 1080 build. I'm planning on getting an ROG Swift for the screen
Jason Taylor
What about heatspreaders? I’m trying to be a tremendous faggot with some lights
Camden Ward
They really are upset about this launch
Michael Clark
nice choices, although i'd go with the VG248QE over the ROG. have you started your build on pcpartpicker?
Sebastian Anderson
>Tom's Hardware >AMD shill Lol even in their review which showed disastrous temps for the 8700K, they still had to sugarcoat it. They basically said "B-but it's ok as long as you don't do AVX!" Nevermind the fact that they claimed the 4.9GHz was stable despite throttling under $1000 of cooling.
Brandon Ortiz
Also, now that I checked the mono can I go microatx or is that too gay?
Im surprised people still buy the vg248qe i bought mine over 2 years ago
Parker Brooks
sure, but there's no real reason to right now. the atx is going for the same price as the micro.
Ayden Hall
>fix TIM >do nothing Looks its better than ryzen
Brody Long
Oh I just wanted to make a smaller pc I have that obsidian 800 and the size and weight is giving me hardcore diabetes
Nolan Thomas
there's a reason why the majority of fps pros still use it. so good and well priced.
Easton Evans
It's a deal on massdrop. It seems like a good price. I'm a pleb though and just want to play wow on ultra at 60+ fps. I think a 1060 would do that, but the 1080 would last me much longer. I'm upgrading from a r9 280 which is starting to show it's age.
Camden Jenkins
But everything you said will be good for gaming/vr? I’m getting a 1080 to compliment the build. Cause my 980 I saw starting to not be good
Luke Cox
1070 is more efficient. If you dont care about heat, noise, or power use go with a 980ti.
Nicholas Parker
Same here, but it's a quality monitor even by today's standards. Only issue is color reproduction, everything looks slightly washed out.
Joshua Young
Color is shit though. I want a 60hz ips 1440p 27inch monitor
Mason Miller
Man that screen is cheap in comparison. How is the image quality/colours etc? I feel like if I'm getting a 1080 I should really make the most of it and fall for the 1440p meme
Angel Miller
1080 is overkill in 1080p most the time. Not sure if it will do 140fps in 1440p though
Jonathan Garcia
most recent AAAs benchmark about 90-120 on ultra with the 1080. I figured everything else like Overwatch, valve games and indie shit would hit the max refresh rate easy though
Angel Baker
just go with a nicely sized mid tower like the nzxt s340. no need to go with anything micro.
Benjamin Nelson
Thank you I think I’ve got all the materials for my next build, I guess one last question, you’re not being some internet fucker right? I mean I know this is Sup Forums but I do like to think people genuinely like to help.
Easton Flores
1600 is shit and the 8400 is a lot better for most users but other than that he was honest with you
Are Corsair mouses any good? My Logitech G400 is dying on me and I don't want to buy another Logitech one. Also I don't have access to many brands in here.
Dylan Barnes
there's a reason why its one of the most common monitors used by professional gamers. the colors are solid, and there are some ICC profiles you can download that make the colors a lot more vibrant.
Ryan Young
They are not comfy. I had one, broke it, got another and decided to return it and get the razor death adder elite because it has a better sensor and better ergos
Thomas Carter
Why is poozen still listed, its shit
Adrian Gutierrez
of course not. stick around Sup Forums and read through some build threads. its pretty easy to tell who's trolling and not. this guy, for instance, is a troll. 1600 > 8400 6 more threads, significantly better stock cooler, cheaper mobos, unlocked, and you can actually buy it.
