ASUS CONFIRMS COFFEE LAKE CAN RUN ON Z270 BOARDs WITH BIOS UPDATE

Even Asus is calling it out as a scam - and they're the primary beneficiaries of such an arrangement.

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Wouldn't that mean they'd work on Z170 mobos work too?
See, I thought their reasoning of "power delivery" was good enough. I'd assumed they wouldn't have had more than 4 cores in mind with their prior (desktop) generations, so they'd've needed to work on the power management.
>Breaking News: Asus cut off from being an Intel manufacturer

It can't though.
They moved PROC_DETECT#/SKTOCC# pin.

please delet

>choosing an fx cpu

Asus will have to drop this if they ever want to sell Intel mobo's again. I'm already wondering what the statement by Asus will be like. They'll have to flat out deny it was possible at any point.

Should I get an i5 7400 or ryzen 1500x for pubg. Leaning toward the AMD, but please help niggas (yes i know playing games is degenerate).

playing games is fine
pubg is just the definition of a meme game

It is manageable.

Yes sir, well which CPU is the better option. From researching around PUBG has been optimised so it makes better use of more cores so I'm thinking that the Ryzen will be fine. If the difference is only a few frames I'll get the AMD because Intel has a distinct Jewish vibe which I can't say I'm a fan of.

Go for the 1600

I've never seen ryzen do very well in pubg

Ryzen 1600 is best value.

1500x because of officially supported AM4 and overclocking, PUBG also seems to be able to use many threads.

The 1600 is 40 dollars more where I am (I'm on a very tight budget), is the performance improvement worth it?

>PUBG has been optimised
Whatever you read was completely bogus. PUBG is one of the worst optimised games available.

Does the 1500x run pubg better than the i5 7400?

1500x dont come with heatsink

I mean it relatively, optimised as in it has been improved. Performance wise, I know it's complete trash. I play it on my current PC and I get 30 fps on a good day cause my parts are budget-bin tier and they're 4 years old, so any improvement is a blessing really.

if you overclock it 3.6-3.9 yes

It does.
Only 1600X/1700X/1800X don't. (All Threadripper also, but they all come with an Asetek bracket)

oh fuck is that really true g whiz

No, the 1500X comes with a Wraith Spire (not the RGB fan though, only 1700 gets that)
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I cannot claim that, search for data yourself. Search for data yourself.

those 40 dollaroos get you 50% more cores.

I thought they said it also required something from Intel.
Have they backtracked on that now?

>if you overclock it 3.6-3.9 yes
>I cannot claim that, search for data yourself. Search for data yourself.
checking it out right now actually.

Its like fucking over their customers is just a reflex action now. They can't not do it anymore

>40 dollars more where I am (I'm on a very tight budget
That makes me think you're Aussie or Leafbro
Either way, if you're on a tight budget, pick the R1400>1500. Heck, you could even save more by going for the R1200, it's still a good processor nonetheless.

I'm Aussie yep. The 1500x is within my budget, I'm just replacing some parts in my current PC which is a bit outdated. Since I don't mind playing games on low or medium I'm not bothered about a super high tier cpu. Thanks for the advice though guys, it helps.

Yeah, thought so. I knew the price difference between the two was about that here. I'm doing about the same. All I have left to upgrade is my power supply since I got an R9 290 relatively cheap, and I'd imagine it's getting close to my PSU's limit.
1400 & 1500x have same core count, can both be overclocked fine. The main difference is the stock cooler, so if you're sticking to the stock, the $20 extra for the 1500>1400 isn't bothersome to you, sure.
Good luck ausbro desu

we had this thread yesterday, and the day before that, and before that

verpiss dich in dein loch

It's not.
It's the incarnation of "socket change a year to keep goyim in fear".

Do you have sauce for 1500x oc? All I could find are benches with 1500x with 2400mhz ram, but they do pretty bad compared to the i5 7400. Hoping you can sauce me better 1500x, and 3200mhz benches.

I'm thinking that I'll get a better cooler sometime next year and maybe overclock then, people say conflicting things about the performance of the stock Ryzen cooler. Good luck to you too man!

Meant bad in PUBG only. I haven't compared in other games.

fuck yes, isn't it like 2 more cores and 4 more threads? no brainer for 40 bucks

>inb4 Intel flips it's shit and shuts it down like when board manufacturers enabled overclocking on H110

Still got a Pentium G3258 doing 4GHz on a $35 board. Stay mad Intel.

Have you seen Ryzen do anything or did you let Intel shills with baloney graphs dictate your loyalty?

>picked it over an i5 back in 2012
>friends with i5s constantly complain about stuttering in vidya while I have no issues

is the fx series soldered? cpus with TIM will suffer degradation after some time, it is unavoidable

I'm looking at buying the 1500x, but I can't find decent benchmarks for them. They all have 2400mhz ram, and they are very bad gameplay as low as 19 fps during staging, and will dip below 30fps when people are around, but can be over 70fps when alone. Do you know of any 1500x oc with decent ram benchmarks for PBUG?

>friends with i5s constantly complain about stuttering in vidya while I have no issues
Woah now. I have an fx too, and this comment is...

Aside from shit fps in ArmA I've never had a problem with it.

A SOCKET CHANGE A YEAR

Keeps the goy in fear

>Aside from shit fps in ArmA I've never had a problem with it
I guess it just boils down to the games that you like to play. If you only play certain types of games I could understand why you wouldn't have any complaints I guess.

pubg is actually one of the few games where ryzen is ahead of intel

Ivan could do with putting some kaby lake chips on his chart.

Here is Hans testing gpus in the game (this benchmark is a few months old but people don't seem to rebench it often).

The 1500x, and i5 7400 aren't on that list, and frankly that list is just too dumb for words.

it's just outdated
i5-8400 would be probably between 1600x and 1800x
i5-7400 is basically i5-6600 level or really near it

>i5 7400
lel

i have a h110 motherboard, can i use anything newer than skylake?

>imagine being a shill so hard that you defend fucking fx series out of them all

when all you can afford is an fx you tend to do a lot of post purchase rationalisation

You might be able to update BIOS to use Kabylake

I can't really imagine how much of an amd fanboy you have to be to actually defend fx cpus. Sad.

Ever heard of lga 771 to 775 conversion

I'm not defending it, it's pretty bad in terms of heat and lack of single core perf.

Isn't the concern not Z270, but the cheap shit like H210? I imagine splitting the line like that (Z170 and Z270 boards work, lower end ones don't) would just confuse people. Z370 should have been backwards compatible at least, so you could put Skylake/Kaby Lake processors in.

>inb4 1151 convert sticker

I have a 1700 at 3.7ghz all core. Pubg runs fine for me on very low. Given it's on a 7950. Still, it's hardly 15fps. I usually get 55-70 and it seems to be gpu limited seeing as dips are in dense areas like towns regardless of how many people are in there. That said, I have 3200mhz RAM

The reason you don't notice individual stuttering spikes is because you're already below 24 fps at all times anyway.

everything not fm2 is soldered

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

the goi is choosing the superior cpu here

>taking some literally who kraut website as gospel
>thinking a board partner like Asus will kill purposedly kill their Z370 sales
>believing Asus did not know about Coffee Lake when Kaby Lake was released earlier in the year
>implying Intel will ever do backwards compatibility when they've never done so for eons
(lol

You have no idea what's going on, do you?
>thinking a board partner like Asus will kill purposedly kill their Z370 sales
Board partners are furious that Intel killed Z270 sales after such a short period of time. There's no supply of Coffee Lake CPU's due to Intel's paper launch, which means no Z370 sales even though there's plenty of mobos. Furthermore, everyone is waiting to see if supply comes back, freezing Z270 and X370 sales, achieving Intel's goal of freezing the CPU market to stop Ryzen at the cost of cannibalizing Kaby Lake as well. Intel achieved their primary goal, stop people from buying Ryzen, by throwing board partners and retailers under the bus. Asrock was pissed too, remeber they were the ones who first leaked that Z370 wasn't backwards compatible.
>believing Asus did not know about Coffee Lake when Kaby Lake was released earlier in the year.
>believing Asus did not know about Coffee Lake when Kaby Lake was released earlier in the year
Coffee Lake only exists because Intel's 10nm process is shit and Cannonlake was delayed again and again. Furthermore, it was rushed, it was supposed to be released next year, not this year. The "real" Coffee Lake mobo is Z390, Z370 is just a Z270 refresh they had to pull out their ass in time.
>implying Intel will ever do backwards compatibility when they've never done so for eons
Z370 is the same Kaby Lake chipset as Z270. Furthermore, Coffee Lake isn't a new CPU, it IS Kaby Lake. The quad core Coffee Lake CPU's are the exact same CPU as Kaby Lake i5's, even with the the same memory controller. That's why the i3's can only do 2400MHz, not 2666. They have the same iGPU and IPC as Kaby as well. The no backwards compatibility is completely unjustifiable, both Asus and Asrock seem to admit that the only differences between Z270 and Z370 are BIOS and the pins. (The pins can be worked around)

To be fair Intel is doing game bundles with Z270, although I doubt this will help much.