Home server general is a general thread to discuss building, setting up your own homeserver and maintaining the services and demons on it.
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>hostan. installan. rebootan. crying about uptime.
Old news:
* OpenBSD working on raspberry pi now!
* remember to back your files in case you get rm -rf'd
* Update your linux kernel! The UDP PEEK bug is sicc.
new news: WPA2 is FUCKED.
It's patched on CentOS/Debian, pfSense will follow soon.
In any case it only affects the clients, so likely to be irrelevant for a home server.
Who here has that Gen10 HP Microserver? Is it any good?
Toshiba Laptop, openSUSE 42.2 bare metal, Apache web server, mysql, some dockers, torrenting, backup and updates every week, very simple and nice setup. Now need to know kwatts I consume
I have a C1+. It overheats if it's in the plastic case ODROID sells. The NTFS-3G driver maxes out at about 10MB/s over gigabit ethernet. I don't remember what my ext4 speeds were. I torrented a bit over OpenVPN; I don't remember the speeds but I don't recall them being slow. I would expect this to improve on the ARMv8 C2 with AES instructions. The stock ODROID Ubuntu MATE install is quite slow--I currently run the minimal no-GUI image now to serve Samba shares. I recall having difficulties with the VPN disconnecting and the auto-reconnect option not consistently working.
Whatever you do, don't buy ODROID as a media player. The LibreElec/Kodi image is the best at this and it absolutely sucks: stuttering, audio drops, general wankery. I have a MINIX U9-H that I'm using now and it's smooth and functional.
The ODROID support forum is pretty decent; far more active than MINIX, for example. I think one thing you'll realize fairly soon is that specs don't mean much when you're talking about non-Qualcomm ARM boards. The drivers and performance are shockingly bad compared to your phone.
Systems not vulnerable: windows boxes and iOS devices.
Ha! Suck it Linux!
My XPEnology servers.
Considering installing security cameras. Is it a bad idea to put the switch in my roof? Currently my home network is non existent. Just a modem router and no outlets in any other room. I'm thinking of also adding outlets in my study and bedrooms but I'm not sure if its worth it, especially when it comes to the amount of cabling involved.
Attic spaces get really, really hot even in temperate environments. I've thought about trying it to see how wifi coverage would be affected but I doubt I could get anything consumer-tier to survive a summer.
True, I didn't consider equipment malfunction due to heat. Being Australian too so... Still Ethernet cable shouldn't have any heat issues if ran in a room right? I plan to that regardless, might put my switch in a spare room, maybe I'll even get a rack mount, put a few different things in there.
reinstalling the cluster tomorrow and adding a z8300 mini pc, that should be fun
What do you do with all of this? I get being an enthusiast and all but idk man
Link to cabinet?
No, not generally. Usually the concern with data cabling is to keep it away from electromagnetic interference sources: electical wiring, light fixtures, etc.
If you're in a stick-frame home with good attic space access and the walls you want outlets in aren't bearing walls, it's quite easy to drill into stud spaces from above and then drop the cable down. Probably the harder part is cutting out the holes for the plate covers--you'll usually want a cheap electronic stud-finder that will let you find where the intervals are between studs.
Your switch you'll probably want to locate somewhere closet-y because it's much easier to simply drop in the cable ends and wire them up rather than drop X cable runs into a stud space and then wire them up to conventional outlet covers. How or if you dress up the wiring after it drops out of the ceiling is up to you: patch panels, guides on a piece of plywood mounted to a wall, spiderweb, etc.
It says in the picture what he does with them
assuming its the real sysadmin: have you thought about streaming when working on your stuff?
What's Odroid should I get for a small home server for file-serving, VPN, Torrents, mail, etc?
XU4 or C2? What are the main differences?
Are there any other alternatives Sup Forums would recommend me?
seconding this.. I would watch the fuck out of this
Sup with the raspberrypi ? Is it on a battery backup? If so, pls some more details ( incl. pics. )
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Hi hsg what do you think of the new KoFT meta? Have the nerfs improved it?
I'm What small homeserver would you recommend for my purposes?
I was considering Rasberry Pi but I've heard the USB throughput is abysmal and shared with the already slow 100Mbps ethernet port.
HP Microserver
Currently it's just idling there, but I was planning to install Domoticz or similar home automation system to it.
It got generic lithium battery back that you can get from China or Amazon. But I don't suggest to get "Raspberry Pi Club" one because it will reset system on power loss.
But isn't home automation wonderful thing? ran.2hu.moe
Well, your filesystem choice for your external HDD is going to be a major factor. If you're going with NTFS, it doesn't really matter what you choose because most USB2-capable boards are going to be able to provide 10MB/s throughput. If you're going with a native linux filesystem, then the XU4's USB3 becomes attractive. However, this could have a downside.
For example, I have two 8TB external drives. I have one attached via USB3 to my Windows PC and I treat this as the master storage device. Its twin I have attached to my C1+. Now, from past experience, I can tell you that getting Windows (7) to read ext4 is a massive PITA so if anything goes wrong with the NTFS-formatted sibling of the pair, then I've got another problem to go along with a failed drive. So this time around, I chose to format both as NTFS and put up with the 10MB/s limit of the NTFS-3G driver.
Comparing the C2 to the XU4 for non-media-player functions, I'd probably want the 8 cores, USB3, and the active cooling option over what the C2 offers, which is ARMv8 x64 and H265.
If you've got a higher budget, then , intel J-series boards, or AMD's AM1 boards are vastly more capable.
I watch these threads and really envy you. Being a poorfag sucks. Where should I start my home server? Do you have any budget guide?
I heard that wpasupplicant for Linux was the first to release a patch. It certainly had one before the embargo was up.
Someone posted this a few days ago, and I jumped on it assuming they'd cancel the order. All three arrived last night. $15 for 3 servers with 8 hotswap bays, dual 2011 mb, redundant 800w supplies, etc. I see a very large media server in my future and a VMware lab to boot...
son of a whore.
You know actually, that is something i have been strongly considering and have been asked for before
you might have just got me motivated
god damn piece of shit storm
lost power 5 times within 2 days
4 were brownouts, 1 was a blackout that lasted a few hours
why haven't I invested in a UPS
What the fuuuuuck.
that'd be really cool, let us know where and when to watch!
grats. That's an incredible find.
Yeah it was. Wasn't mine per se but whatever user posted that has my eternal gratitude.
I cannibalized my old gaming PC and took out the gpu and hard drive
How can I make this a home serve as cheap as possible
I want to make my servers all cute like but I dont know how :(
Buy a hard drive? You really don't need much to build a functional server assuming your board has reasonable onboard nic. What are you using it for?
Colorful patch cables and a smaller rack.
>what are you using it for
I don't know. I just want to do it cause I'm curious and want to learn about networking
I have three more R710s an a storage array to add to the rack, so shrinking it isn't a possibility. Colourful patch cables sounds fun though.
Throw an operating system on a bootable USB stick and have a play around I guess. Can recommend centos for general server duties or freenas for network attached storage.
File server.
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ESXi server
Explain to.me what a server is and what I can do with it
Not But my FreeNAS server has literally ALL my files on it. Movies, game installers, software, porn. All of it. So My desktop has a 1TB HDD and a 250GB SSD. My storage is mounted over a network share. That share is mounted to my desktop, and laptops.
Additionally I have a second server running VMWare ESXi, which has multiple virtual machines on it.
One of those is CentOS running crashplan with the shares from the FreeNAS server mounted, so I back up everything from that virtual machine.
Another is a Deluge torrent daemon with a few folders mounted from the FreeNAS server. I install the Deluge client on all my systems and then have them all connect to the one daemon. This server is also connected to a VPN provider, so my torrents don't get me letters, and the system runs tinyproxy so any computer in my network can set it as a proxy destination and send that traffic through a VPN. I basically use servers to offload and centralize tasks.
Its a bunch raspis and old as fuck athalons, so he is doing effectively nothing with it.
You realize they sell rails for that SC743 chassis
Why do you even have those old as fuck switches, they're all 10/100 and should be in the trash. One is even a hub for fucks sakes
this piece of shit
also that's a 2950 not 750
so much fucking this
seriously you guys, servers cost fucking money, if its not 10K its a fucking toy or outdated trash
Cheers man, been considering getting 2 RPI3s to test failover setups.
I can see they don't work as UPS's :( Do you know of some that are cheap / work, i am EU, would love to hear more about this.
Also cheers for the picture.
Question to Server Anons in general, what's your GB/TB storage capacities at? I am currently 4TB. Wanna go 10/12.
>not aligning things to rack units
because this board is full of poorfags who larp. i spend more in a year in electricity for my 2 servers then they spent on their "servers"
16x 4TB HDDs and 8x 480GB SSDs across 2 nodes
Learning cisco at home is better than studying cisco on some wonky certificate crap page.
Outdated trash at enterprise level is fine for a home network.
exactly, you know we should go somewhere else where people like us are appreciated and get away from these wannabe sysadmin larpers
>Learning cisco at home is better than studying cisco on some wonky certificate crap page.
You realize things like GNS and VIRL exist? And you're not studying shit with them, they have no cables plugged and except for one and the power is turned off on them.
>>not aligning things to rack units
I'm pretty sure it's all aligned, at least now
that's a old picture, I'll probably take a new one when I decide to clean up my rats nest of a cabling job
NO it is never fucking fine - trash is trash
do you eat shit? no, so don't fucking use shit
if you arent willing to spend the money then you dont get fucking servers, you get trash and you get laughed at because you're a fucking poorfag
you would get down voted so shit if even dared to post your laughable 'racks' on /r/homelabs
neck youself
Right, have you tried GNS? Have you tried getting a bunch of free cisco switches?
I got free Cisco switches, shitty 100M, but it's easy to test loadbalancing and troughput at home.
I will move to the UK at mid November, maybe December.
I only have one PC, but got an ITX case as well as an ITX mobo, but it looks it's not compatible at all with my current CPU (get bootloops). The cheapest CPU that is compatible is a Pentium G3220. Will it be power full enought to be a seed box for a few months?
I'm still considering get the ITX mobo to work and just carry all my PC with me to the UK. How fast/cheap/reakiable is the Internet and electricity there?
Also, would an SSD for the OS and some programs benefit a seedbox? I guess I can get a 32/64gb one for really cheap.
Trying too hard, too obvious
ZFS or LSI(Enterprise) Raid cards? And what configuration?
Trying too hard, too obvious
Fine, I'll buy an IBM mainframe and host my torrents on it so I can stop feeling insecure about my wealth and technical nous on a Tibetan yodeling bulletin board.
what is that server submerged in?
Is it water, im getting anxious :^o
Hello. New to HSG, I want to get myself a router. I managed to acquire a server cabinet, a rather huge one. It was aesthetic and I got it for free, and I was thinking of using it as a bar cabinet. I need a shelf though, and I also need a router for my apartment. Anything that you guys would recommend? Preferably cheap. The server cabinet has "canovate" written on it, and is about 180 cms tall or so.
>I'm pretty sure it's all aligned, at least now
Its not, that PF sense box has a gap between it and the patch panel which triggers me. Also it looks like it is a fractional U device.
>test loadbalancing
You're not learning shit by setting up a etherchannel
>troughput
or by running iperf/ntttcp
One box has a Areca 1883ix-24. The other has a pair of trashy LSI 9207s because I dont have a spare $1k right now to replace them and if I did I desperately need more RAM anyways. SSDs are in a RAID 0 on each box. The HDDs are in effectively a RAID 10 across both servers with Storage Spaces Direct/Scale Out File Server/CSVFS_ReFS
Probably mineral oil
If CPU is cheaper than Raspberry pi or similar, go CPU.
X86 > ARM/RISC/embedded, when you are dealing in homelab.
>Its not, that PF sense box has a gap between it and the patch panel which triggers me.
>that's a old picture
did you not read my entire post
>Also it looks like it is a fractional U device.
it is, I give it 2U because you can't really give it 1.3 or whatever 4 holes is
Height is measure in U not cenimeters, and depth is what matters. If it isnt at least 800mm then it is probably useless.
Pics? Bar sounds cool though.
What's the requirements for the router, like internet provider stuff etc, and what are your plans with it?
Pics coming up
Fug it's sideways
you gotta physically rotate the image nigga
don't do it in EXIF
Depth is about 90 cm from the back "pillars" or whatever you call them. I don't know much about "u" except what a 2U server is because I bought a broken Asus HGST4 or whatever it's called, the first librebootable server. Would be neat to get the newer librebootable one.
>What's the requirements for the router
Here's the thing, I don't know much about routers. All I know is that I'd like to learn more, I just set up my NAS at home (haven't set the damn IP to static yet though because dad is being a bitch about "muh foolin around with muh router") and I'd like to set up some neat things here at the apartment, like maybe a mirror of my seedbox or a website. I'd like to be able to use my router as my firewall, of course. I don't really have that clear plans yet, I just know I need a router and I got a case so might as well get a rackmountable one. The ISP I have now is just the one my uni is providing here, I don't know much about it.
I got a lot of time to find all of this out though, planning to put the router on my wishlist for christmas.
Was posted from my phone, I don't connect my phone to my computer because I am 110% sure there is some CIA niggatry in the android system.
>Depth is about 90 cm from the back "pillars" or whatever you call them
should be usable then.
>Here's the thing, I don't know much about routers
If you have a ESXi box and want to run Cisco Firepower Threat Defense I posted a crack to certcollection. Is pretty much all GUI based.
>If you have a ESXi box and want to run Cisco Firepower Threat Defense I posted a crack to certcollection.
I don't know much about what you said just now but something tells me Stalman would not approve. My software being free as in freedom is quite important to me.
>Is pretty much all GUI based.
Not important to me at all, I prefer using SSH with CLI anyways, easier to manage and more fun. I'm a hobbyist but I want to do nitty gritty sysadminstuff on a personal basis.
>Why do you even have those old as fuck switches, they're all 10/100 and should be in the trash. One is even a hub for fucks sakes
It was all free. Right now they're in the rack to keep them out of my closet.
I might eventually cable them up as some ass CCNA lab. Maybe chuck my 5510/5505s on there. The routers have DSPs in them, so they're also useful for voice. The hub was mostly because I could. Though if pressed, it will save on configuring SPAN. And since that would be lab gear, not prod, gigabit is the least useful feature I can think of..
But all that is pointless since this thread is about the server.
>And since that would be lab gear, not prod, gigabit is the least useful feature I can think of..
Nigger gigabit switches are dirt cheap, here is one for $40
ebay.com
And that HP4000m is not only upside down but equally useless. I had one at home when they were current like 15 years ago because at the time it was cheaper for the place I worked to buy a switch with 5 cards than it was to buy the cards separately so we had a closet full of chassis and PSUs. Its 10/100 as well except for those two gigibit cards you have in it. And that 4500 you have is trash as well and will pull like 800-1000 watts by itself All of this shit belongs in the trash.
>shipping 100$
Yes, throw out perfectly serviceable hardware and spend money on a feature I've already said I don't need. Do you, per chance, work in ewaste?
>Data Transfer Rate 100 Mbps
Bought this HP ML310e gen8 v2 for €375. It has a Xeon E-1220v3, 4x1TB HP enterprise disks, 16GB DDR3 ECC and licensed iLo4. Did I do good, Sup Forums?
Where the fuck do you live. Go find some shit on in whatever 3rd world shit hole you live in.
3560Gs are gigabit layer 3 switches. i have one sitting in my closet
no its trash too
I probably could have gotten something more powerful for a bit more money but I wanted something that's quiet and doesn't use much power.
>Data Link Protocol Ethernet, Fast Ethernet (100-Mbit/s)
>(100-Mbit/s)
>ONE FUCKING HUNDRED MEGABITS
can you fucking read cisco shill??
piss off poorfag, adults with jobs are talking
you're a retard. 3560s are 10/100, 3560G/E/X are all gigabit
Actually not to bad for the price. Probably not enough cores/RAM for virtualization, but if you just wanna run a few services and a file server off it, it could handle that well.
yeah man, no hypervisor would run with smoething as small as 16GB woudl it?
i mena they need like, 1TB or some shii
VMs are fucking hardcore sysadmins stuff, not for the fainthearted or if you've not got deep deep pockets
'just give up bro, you'll not make it.
Nah man, you could get ESXi to install, and it is free until you want to cluster it, but generally you want a core per VM, and an amount of RAM equal to approximately what you think the system would need were it on it's own hardware.
So you'd get maybe 3 servers with 4GB of RAM a piece. Not super great.
Thanks for the inputs guys.
>Well, your filesystem choice for your external HDD is going to be a major factor.
I'm gonna go with a Linux native, like ext4.
>I can tell you that getting Windows (7) to read ext4 is a massive PITA
Sure, but why don't you just set up SAMBA and access it that way?
>HP Microserver, intel J-series boards, or AMD's AM1
My main concern here is power consumption. I don't need much processing power. I'm actually using an ASUS EEE PC with a 32-bit single-core Atom. It drains 13W at the wall, and I wanted to get that value as low as possible, hence why I'm looking into card computers.
Is this a hard hobby to get into? I've never taken any networking courses before but how long did it take you anons to acquire the knowledge on how to get your own servers up and running and secured?
What would you guys have gotten instead, taking into consideration I have no non-living space to place a loud-as-fuck rack server?
You can buy fan controllers or quiet fans, supermicro has a range of superquiet fans which are really just lower speed sanyo denkis
>Sure, but why don't you just set up SAMBA and access it that way?
For a rebuild, I'd want to have them both on USB3 so the process wouldn't take a friggin' week--heck, it's still a day at disk write speed.
There's also torrent file structure to consider in my case; it would be handy to just hotswap the other drive's cable over and be back in business.
why are these threads always full of autistic screeching? they used to be fun
>Its a bunch raspis and old as fuck athalons, so he is doing effectively nothing with it.
Good enough if you know what you are doing. Except for transcoding.