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Librem is trash, this shit still tracks your location and requirez non-free software. How can they even market something like this with a straight face…

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I think it's a small but important step in the right direction.

>his shit still tracks your location and requirez non-free software.

>open BIOS
>open bootloader
>open baseband

Literally 300% improvement over Android/iOS

>he thinks a free baseband firmware is possible
>he thinks, even if it were possible, that it wouldn't track his location
cute

The proof that most of us has autism is the fact we can't be happy when small improvement happen. We must have it perfect right off the bat. We can't be happy with "better" we have to have the best right now.

Except that "better" in this scenario is "The same as it was before". How is carrying a personal tracking device that still requires non-free software any different from a device that runs entirely non-free software? You're compromised either way. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of having a FOSS OS on my device that allows a great amount of control over the UI, but nothing is stopping your provider from spying on your location, and free baseband firmware is impossible under any provider due to their own rules, and of course government regulations. My gripe with these people is that they advertise it as something we need and don't have, when in reality devices like this have existed in the past, and this brings nothing new to the table.

It's a step in the right direction. I'll be buying one.

>>open BIOS
It's an EFI on actual ROM. I highly doubt that it'll be the least bit open.
>>open bootloader
It's a possibility though it'll still be loaded by non-free components like the boot ROM and will then load non-free components like the baseband software.
>>open baseband
Absolutely wrong. The modem and baseband software are going to be hardware isolated. This is much better than most other devices on the market but it's nowhere close to being "open" in any sense of the word, hence the need for hardware isolation.

Stop talking out of your ass.

The tracking by cell towers in the Librem 5 can be cut off by a physical switch. That's the whole point of making custom hardware for this thing instead of just slapping GNU/Linux on refurbished Nexus phones.

>The same as it was before
Name one other phone that you can buy new right now that's as open as your average ThinkPad. You can't. There are no other smartphones out there that have this kind of hardware isolation and a totally FLOSS userland and kernel (minus a few drivers). This is the best thing we've had in a long time.

Thing's we'll learn ITT:
>There's just no pleasing some people.
>There's just no pleasing some people.
>There's just no pleasing some people.
>There's just no pleasing some people.
>There's just no pleasing some people.
>There's just no pleasing some people.

A hardware killswitch for wireless is barely beneficial when the purpose of the device is for taking phonecalls. As soon as you turn the wireless back on, your carrier knows exactly where you are. Useless.

replicant.us/supported-devices.php

Thing's we'll learn ITT:
>Nu-Sup Forums is all brainlets who don't know how cellphones work
>Nu-Sup Forums is all brainlets who don't know how cellphones work
>Nu-Sup Forums is all brainlets who don't know how cellphones work
>Nu-Sup Forums is all brainlets who don't know how cellphones work
>Nu-Sup Forums is all brainlets who don't know how cellphones work
>Nu-Sup Forums is all brainlets who don't know how cellphones work

it will flop

>A hardware killswitch for wireless is barely beneficial when the purpose of the device is for taking phonecalls.
Let's say you're off work and you want to go camping for the weekend and you still want to bring your phone along for music while still being off the grid. You can do that with this phone and in case of an emergency you can just flip a little switch.

>replicant
This only helps to mitigate the DMA problems with Samshit modems. It doesn't prevent tracking by cell towers at all, numb nuts. This is yet another case of nu-Sup Forums calling everyone else nu-Sup Forums.

It's overpriced.

Or you could have a secondary device dedicated to your music that doesn't have wireless capabilities. They cost like $30 and can last up to two weeks on battery. If you're not going to use your phone, don't bring it with you.

Did I say it prevented cell tower tracking? I'm simply referring to a project that brings the capabilities of the Librem project's phone to a device that already exists. Back to Réddit with your assumptions.

Why would I want to drag around multiple devices when I can carry one?

>Back to Réddit
Says the teenage namefag that doesn't understand the benefits of modem isolation.

>buy a PMP
Obsolete. A dedicated device for music is just stupid when smartphones are superior in every way and that user only used music playing as an example.

You won't be carrying two, you'll be carrying just the player. Did you forget that you didn't want to use your phone for the weekend? The player will last probably 10x longer than your phone's battery, supply better audio quality, and weigh less.

Isolation of the proprietary modem firmware is great if you want to keep your userland software secure, but it's not going to stop tracking. Devices already exist that do this, hence why I linked the replicant project. You seem to be having a hard time figuring out what I'm telling you, reddit-spacer.

PMP's exist that do more than play audio. However, you'll be sacrificing battery time for sure. And even then they cost less than a shitty Librem device.

>you didn't want to use your phone for the weekend
Except for emergency calls, which I specifically stated a couple of posts ago.

>The player will last probably 10x longer than your phone's battery
I don't care.

>supply better audio quality
At that point I'd have to pay several hundred dollars for an MP3 player.

>and weigh less.
Doesn't even matter because the weight difference would be so small.

Stay delusional.

>PMP's exist that do more than play audio.

Yes, that's why PMPs are known as PMPs and DAPs are known as DAPs, they're two entirely different scope products.

DAP = Digital Audio Player, it plays audio files and nothing else

PMP = Portable Media Player, it plays audio, video, allows eBooks, Internet connectivity for audio streaming, etc.

LEARN THE DIFFERENCE

>buys Oukitel k10000
>battery holds a day of video playback, or over a week of normal use even with play services enabled and no power saving
>battery will definitely hold 2 days of straight music playing while being used normally
Your battery life argument is shit. You wouldn't be autistic enough to listen to music for 24 hours straight anyway so it doesn't matter. And even if you did most non-meme phones can definitely hold a day of battery at least.
In case you're limiting your argument to only Librem 5, even if their battery turns out to be small you can always keep a portable charger in your pocket to give it an extra boost. A phone is more important than a PMP, therefore a power bank is a better choice to carry if we're in this hypothetical "going on a trip for a day or two" scenario.

>better audio quality
You literally can't hear a difference unless you're in an absolutely quiet place or turn up the volume ear-rapingly high. And there are other factors to consider. For example, no matter how good of a PMP you have, if you have bad headphones you won't hear a difference between a PMP and a smartphone hooked to them. In which case your "cheaper" argument doesn't hold up as much. Since phones are definitely more useful than PMPs it's expected for them to be more expensive.
Not everyone is an audiophile and not everyone cares about a 5% difference in quality which can only be heard on max volume.