Imageboards are technology

As we all know, the legacy captcha will be disabled on March 31st. What image board can we use after that which does not use reCAPTCHA? I was looking at 7chan, but their imageboard software seems outdated. It doesn't even have catalog display for their boards. Let's discuss viable alternatives to Sup Forums to move to after March 31.

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No need to wait until March 31. They have a technology board, catalog, quick replies, etc...

also forgot to mention that they use a text captcha and only require users to fill it out once per day

there's something i'm not getting
aren't we already using reCAPTCHA here?

Yes, but right now you have the option to enable legacy captcha which is text only. On March 31 legacy captcha is going away and will not be an option anymore.

i didn't even realise

Maybe the imageboard meme can finally die and we can be released from this hellish cyber-life?

create our own decentralised imageboard with ipfs as an image backend

i know about nntpchan, it sucks and moderation isnt scalable

If you get a pass you don't need to solve captchas, right?

they also have a userbase consisting of videogame and politics enthusiasts (and less users overall) and crappy imageboard software

not saying Sup Forums is great or anything but at least there are a few generals that usually have good posts in them and also aren't dead

A decentralised text-board would be far easier to implement as a trial run, and when you think that all of Usenet from '81-'91 is only about 2GB a text board would encourage both lots of seeders, and also long-term retention.

We could make a decentralized image board with a blockchain backend.

no, stop this blockchain meme, it shows you know nothing

and smart contracts please

Blockchain is a great way to incentivize people to host nodes for decentralized platforms. Your post shows that you are completely ignorant.

I'll make the logo.

>being this butthurt over a fucking CAPTCHA
Why is this a problem? Ticking a box is MUCH easier than filling out ink blot text shit.

lol, insecure site that only stormfags and Sup Forums oldfags use.
There's plenty of better alternatives.
Lainchan
As old hat as it is Reddit and Stack overflow are not bad for Sup Forums interests
because of the security in said captcha

I found the retard

1MB of plaintext is about 200 pages.

you're doing googles work for free

a botnet but with people

>don't accept google cookies and block tracking shit
>forced to use captcha on this fucking website
>google fails captcha on purpose if you don't let them track you and makes them harder
>fadeclick bullshit that takes forever
Yeah, fuck off.
Ink blot captchas havn't been a thing for a while.

I use these captchas as inspiration for pseudonyms when I sign up for things.

>fadeclick bullshit that takes forever
this. though mostly on mobile, not desktop, for me.

Just quit fucking around with weird browser extensions.

All I ever have to do is tick the checkbox and it's done. Unless I post in rapid succession (too quickly to type out a meaningful reply), I never get snagged by it.

You are really making a mountain out of a molehill here.

#nothingtohide

So you're basically a lurker?
Fuck all of us because you barely post and you let google fuck your POZ'd ass?

Okay well then why are you even in this thread? Nobody is forcing you to leave Sup Forums. Enjoy your shitty captcha faggot.

>i help the botnet grow and I AM PROUD of it

Final chan is the only good chan left, and now that I have made that announcement I'm sure you redditards will flood it. Oh well.

Censorship-ridden garbage site. You're not allowed to have the "wrong" opinion and if you make a competing board to one of the early established ones, you will get spammed to death or worse, jim can steal the board from under you just 'cause.

what about Sup Forums pass?

I post all day every day, and I never get stopped by recaptcha. Maybe your issues are just a direct result of your paranoia.

Google's not going to report you for smoking weed or jerking to traps or whatever the fuck you do all day.

>what about scat porn?

cool story bro.

You probably unwittingly contribute to several "botnets" a day.

This is life in the modern world. Get used to it, you freak.

(((Who))) could be behind that post...?

lewd.pics/chan

>type post
>grasp the mouse and move it to click on the checkbox
>wait several seconds for the botnet to get its gears in order and the oh so modern Web 2.0 animations to finish
>optionally get slapped by a challenge that takes upwards of 20 seconds just to wait for the fucking images to fade out and load, even more when you factor in the actual execution time
>optionally get a second challenge because eat shit
>wait for the checkmark to slowly appear
>you can finally post now
>done in 15-100 seconds, depending on the position of the stars

vs.
>type post
>tab
>calle nigger, hit enter
>done in two seconds flat

>muh appeal to futility fallacy
>since some botnets are inevitable, we should go full botnet mode all the time

If you post here a lot, just buy a fucking pass.

Are you tired of clicking steet signs?
Are you tired of the 1 minute cooldown?
Do rangebans give you a hard time?

Well say goodbye to all these hassles, because Sup Forums Pass™ is here!

Visit Sup Forums.org/pass for more details.

It takes under 2 seconds to tap the check box and submit my post.

>decentralized image board
How would you delete the inevitable flood of cp? I'm not fucking seeding that crap.

Is it still horribly shady and full of borderline child porn?

No thanks shill. Several viable alternatives have already been posted in this thread. I will simply switch to one or multiple of those.

Delegated moderation (e.g. nodes register as moderator and each node can select which node they adhere to).
Alternatively (but this goes into upvote/downvote territory so I don't like it), full consensus.

>You're not allowed to have the "wrong" opinion

Neither on Sup Forums, kiddo.
Plus there's a global rule that complaining about the moderation results in a ban, so mods can enforce whatever personal agendas they have. You have no word in saying it.

Stopped using that site when Jim got it, it's been going to shit ever since then, especially when it was quite nice early in life

autists use legacy captcha which you can change to using settings.

>not having a Sup Forums pass

I mean, would be nice if that worked, but I'm afraid I'd be cucked by some hate speech laws or something once someone would inevitably post Nazi memes and Hitler dindu

Reminder that all versions of recaptcha are broken anyway.
Only low-effort would-be spammers get stopped.
Plus you can pay some 3rd worlder 1$ per thousand captchas solved.

>giving even a single penny to goot.

It was shit for a long time beforehand as well. It was only good in the first ~3 months (end of september to end of november or so).

If it's distributed and decentralized nobody can do shit about it assuming the network is anonymizing.

If it is decentralized and p2p, then it would be essentially impossible to shut down. Also, if they ever finally pass one of those "the site is responsible for its posters" laws, it wouldn't affect it either, since there is no site whatsoever.

And assuming people don't give a shit enough to deanonymize it. I wouldn't risk it myself famalam, I dont want my neetbux taken away.

Also, why make a whole new infrastructure instead of hosting it on like zeronet?

lainchan

Would you agree with captcha only being required for thread creation, whereas disabled for regular posts? Timeouts between post creation would stay the same.

what good would that do? most of the spam before captcha was in posts anyway

>applechan
Too niche compared to a diverse topic imageboard such as Sup Forums. Not a direct replacement without restructuring.

Honestly I think captcha should be required for regular posts too. It's just the particular type of captcha being used is unacceptable.

And allow robots to post?

That's like saying that mathematics only works because nobody gives a shit enough to prove that 1+1 != 2. Stop speaking nonsense please.

Bull
Shit.

I think most of the spam is twarted using timeout. I don't think recaptcha's human-recognition is of much value really.

It's needed for regular posts too. Things that need to change are basically respecting moot's initial promises (which he betrayed the userbase with) such as removing captchas and post countdowns (appropriate solutions include to use 8ch-like captchas including e.g. once-a-day solving, and setting the post countdown globally to 5s to avoid duplicates without harming conversations as is the case now on boards with the larger delays).

seeing how the bitcoin blockchain predominately stores small transaction data, and it has still managed to reach over 100gb in size, i'm sure people will enjoy using that much space for an imageboard down the line

imageboard messages are supposed to be ephemeral anyway (except for stateful messages such as those from moderation events), give me an actual argument as to why we should use a blockchain as opposed to syncing data as required between nodes

>Why is this a problem?

>he wants to click a captcha with an unknown number of pages
>he doesnt want to press tab and enter a maximum of 2 words when his fingers are already on the keyboard
spotted the brainlet

I think he means crypto and not blockchain (there are other methods like dag but they're not mature enough as of yet and people don't know how to decentralize them).

I'm not saying someone will magically crack the encryption, I'm saying that there's a potential of some kind of bullshit to happen. They try it all the time with TOR, I can't see Sup Forums of all places maintaining a properly secured software

Pretty-sure it's actually that there's a lucrative deal behind it.

There's no need for it to be maintained by Sup Forums, all we need is to leverage existing infrastructures (ipfs, i2p, tor, nntp-overchan, retroshare, etc.)

Fair enough. Still, why is no one ezber talking about zeronet here? The site has some retarded language to explain to normies, but it looks good.

zeronet.io/

>normies
Jesus christ faggot go kys

good post

Zeronet is the honeypot to end all honeypots. Every post you make regardless of on which site you make it is tracked to your ID, accessible by anybody unencrypted on the harddrive of anyone who visits the site. Don't like someone? Want to see their posting history even on an anonymous board? grep the post content, then grep the ID that's attached to it. GG no re. Not to mention you must have full js enabled to even see a site in the first place and people can arbitrarily change the content of their own posts (even if the post was originally only allowed to be text, it can be modified to contain arbitrary js for example) and the latest version is always fetched by people who browse the site, rather than the versioned post as was originally submitted.

>kys
Too chickenshit to write the words, huh?

There's not much that can be done about it. The younger generation has too much access to the internet these days and they bring their middleschool vocabulary with them.

We could always ban these morons. A form of 'lurk moar faggot'

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>I think he means crypto and not blockchain
ok sure, i just don't think a full blockchain would be a very good incentive for anyone to participate. it's $CURRENT_YEAR and all communications nowadays should be using signing and/or encryption

blockchain would make it extremely big over the years, even if you have multiple chains per board. Plus then all the site content is tracked and recorded. One of the things I liked the most about Sup Forums was that the complete anonymity not only extended to posting, but to bad posts disappearing, becoming forgotten. Meanwhile good content was reposted as long as people cared. This created a sort of hive mind.

Right now every post is recorded indefinitely on offsite archives. If I make a mistake once, people can see it for forever. This creates an aura that feels less free, as I know that people are watching.
So it would be better if it used a system that permanently prunes old content. Archiving could still be done on a vote basis, meaning that only memorable threads get to live forever (remember 4chanarchive?).

Also the boards move pretty slow. Even the bigger boards have threads that last a week sometimes. Only the Generals boards should have bump limits that high to make that possible.

Oh, and the boards moving faster would make sage more meaningful again.

Those are the things I'd like.


The spam got so bad that the site was all but unusable for long periods of time. Plus it was putting a lot of strain on the servers.

>I think it's just that mods don't want to deal with banning such a large number of proxies.
They don't even permaban proxies right now.

I wouldn't be surprised. With no admin to hold them back, mods can do whatever they want.

Interesting, I didn't know that. Always just looked at it but haven't actually tried running it. Shame, it sounded cool.

>but to bad posts disappearing, becoming forgotten
Anyway to go around archivers?

By crypto, I mean cryptocurrency. Obviously everything should be signed and encrypted by default.

It works quite well aside from that: it's extremely fast and allows for all the dynamism necessary to run real sites. Unfortunately the design is such that it's not even remotely viable as soon as it stops being the nichest thing ever.

If legacy captcha dies I will stop using Sup Forums.
Nothing here for me anyways.

>Anyway to go around archivers?

There isn't a way as far as I know, even posts that get deleted in 2 seconds get archived. The upside is that on threads where janitors start enforcing their own agenda, sometimes you can only actually see the thread through the archive.

>i know about nntpchan, it sucks and moderation isnt scalable
Wrong. The idea of a Decentralized anonymous imageboard is not scalable. The mod system works better than anyone else's implementation so far despite being half baked.

Moderation is the only thing that works well on nntp-overchan though. For example it's not unusual for all nodes to go down at the same time.

imo best moderation is self-moderation.

Who watches the watcher? How does that differ from upvotes/downvotes?

>imo best moderation is self-moderation.
Server opers disagree

Bullying, user.

Wouldn't it be better to have a decentralised culture than a decentralised system? Something like how the web used to be where there would be mountains of smaller sites, each making copies of other people's content to make their own sites.

Think about the Anarchist's Cookbook; it had no central hosting point, but it spread to every single BBS in the world.

>So it would be better if it used a system that permanently prunes old content. Archiving could still be done on a vote basis, meaning that only memorable threads get to live forever (remember 4chanarchive?).
if someone wants to archive a thread, they're going to be able to. let's just face it. but i do agree, i believe only useful threads should be recorded (no need to keep the 1488 shitpost threads that happen a week) and i believe imagedump boards would benefit the most from archival.
that's why i'm thinking let each node decide how much content they want to retain per board (similar to how usenet/nntp does it). if you disagree with how a public archive operates, really it isn't the imageboard's fault and you should take it up with the archive itself.

>Also the boards move pretty slow. Even the bigger boards have threads that last a week sometimes. Only the Generals boards should have bump limits that high to make that possible.
>Oh, and the boards moving faster would make sage more meaningful again.
i personally hate the general format and i want to see it die as soon as possible; it creates an idea of permanency and over-categorisation that doesn't fit well in imageboard culture. and i think there should be a limited set of boards at first so, like you said, they could move a bit faster and we wouldn't have a huge userbase partitioning like you see with reddit and 8\chan. that just leads to circlejerks and dead communities.

Yeah, control freaks do.