If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
GPUs: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070 / 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 4K >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB SSD is almost mandatory
someone needs to edit out that windows logo with Tux or GNU please.
Xavier Sullivan
Can you use ULMB and Gsync at the same time?
William Hughes
How do I know what speed memory my motherboard will actually support. The QVL only lists 2133mhz RAM modules but c'mon.
Christopher Cook
No unfortunately. Even with the hardware controller on Gsync and Freesync 2 it's currently impossible to match the strobed backlight with a dynamic refresh rate from Adaptive sync.
Parker Taylor
look on the specs list
Benjamin Cruz
What GPU line is worth buying into? Mid, High, Top? Aka 1070, 1080, 1080ti? Plan to stick to that line buying every 2 gens.
Jason Campbell
>1000 pixels per second motion ??????????
Oliver Ross
>Plan to stick to that line buying every 2 gens. then buy what you need now for 1080p 1060 6gb is fine for 1440p you'll want 1070/1070ti for 4k 1080ti
Carson Green
What's confusing? If you have a monitor 1920 pixels wide, and something is traveling at 1000pixel/s, it means the object takes approximately 2 seconds to travel horizontally across the screen. This means 120 frames at 60Hz, and 240frames at 120Hz.
Joshua Thompson
Bump?
Tyler Parker
when the fuck is somethin moving that fast nigga
Angel King
I currently have a 290x at 1080p and it works great. I'm wondering about next gen because that's when I plan to upgrade possibly a new monitor as well.
Austin Wilson
An FPS? An enemy moving at 1000pixels/s is reasonable. Also you can look at it the opposite way, turning around 180 degrees quickly will cause the background to blur.
Brayden Diaz
>An FPS? An enemy moving at 1000pixels/s is reasonable that would mean that A) you don't follow him, B) he's real fucking close to you, and as such, real fucking big
Colton Bailey
I remember seeing a plastic pcie card that just holds an hdd or ssd in place, does anyone know what its called? my case doesnt have a place to put an ssd
6, passing grade so I'm happy pretty surprising tho
Lucas Evans
Greetings! A few weeks ago I got a pentium 1 socket7 pc. One of my friends gave me an isa sound card (see pic), as it didn't have one. He also gave me a cable to attach it to motherboard's speaker header. When I put the card in my pc and plugged in the cable and flipped the power switch, thick smoke filled my room as the cable burned. The audio card outputs white noise, but pc speaker still works. Anons, where did I fuck up, how was I supposed to connect the card and most importantly, is the card dead?
Henry Sullivan
Greetings.
Samuel Murphy
>He also gave me a cable to attach it to motherboard's speaker header ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
he said I can get the pc speaker sounds in the audio output with it
Luis Cooper
>1700 for probably only gaming >shit mobo >2133 ram on ryzen >western digital ssd >5400rpm hdd >shit case >buying an os >shit monitor
Chase Harris
You need faster RAM. Buy at least 2666MHz, preferably 3000/3200MHz.
Zachary Gomez
>panic over everyone talking about RAM prices skyrocketing >check ECC RAM >the price has yet again gone down YEAH BOI
Chase Thomas
just OC your memory, my 2666 kit runs at least 3000, though I'm still pushing it higher, and haven't run into a wall yet
Hudson Jones
Monitor and SSD are shit, go up to a 144hz, save money with a TN panel. No reason to get such a low cap SATA SSD anymore, either just get a 500gb-1tb or higher SATA SSD, or get a M.2 under 100gb for your OS and a cheap HDD or low tier SATA ssd for the rest of your mass storage.
Motherboard is shit, surely you can find a similarly priced Mobo with WiFi instead of having to run the adapter
Also your GPU is shit, well not exactly but holy shit that’s a lot of money for a non ti - go check out craigslist for deals, lower down to a 8gb 1070 or a RX580
Chase Myers
oh shit just did a bit more reasearch turns out it's used for the cd audio god fucking damn I'm retarded
Joseph Mitchell
What should you get if you want 165Hz and IPS but don't want horrific backlight bleed?
John Richardson
RAM, Mobo, GPU, Monitor, and storage need to be reworked. Go ALL in on an SSD, a 1tb SATA. Alternatively a 500gb or less M.2, or a low cap m.2 as a boot drive, with a good HDD or a cheap SSD for the rest of your storage. HDD’s are obsolete, don’t use them for gaymes or other intensive media, if you must have one buy it down the line. I only use mine for movies, pictures, music, etc
Ayden Jenkins
>go up to a 144hz >lower down to a 8gb 1070 or a RX580 Why would you tell him two incompatible things? He should wait for 1070Ti to come out and see how it overclocks compared to a 1080, but recommending a 1070 for 1440p/144Hz is retarded unless you only play CSGO and Overwatch.
David Torres
user that goes from your CD drives analog output to your sound card
??????????? god damned user I told you to put the vodka away dmitri
Dominic Perry
24 or 27 inch for 1440p monitor?
Christopher Young
27
Liam Hughes
get the asrock taichi, it has a built in wifi + better mosfet design
Juan Harris
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Camden Young
>windows 8 user!
Cameron Thomas
I'm on W10, I don't know why it says W8.
Joshua Young
what clock speed and memory are you using?
would also like to see some r5 1600's too
Jaxon Jenkins
>build 9200
Pay for your software Jamal.
Angel Lewis
Show single thread score.
Isaiah Flores
I'm literally on a legit copy of W10 Pro. I have absolutely no clue why R15 thinks I'm on W8.
Robert Sullivan
Hey guys I saw this build yesterday pcpartpicker.com/list/Y4LztJ and I was wondering if you think it is a good starting point for a new build I'm going to make (around 1.5k)? What change would you guys make?
Ethan Ortiz
8700K, 1670 multi and 220 single.
Michael Russell
Where can I test the single thread score? Cinebench only shows me the multi thread score.
Lincoln Green
> Is the guy whose brother was offering him a CybertronPC Borg-Q still around? I've been going over the old thread and shaking my head at some of the advice.
Ignore the recommendations from the thebottlenecker.com/#project site, its GPU comparisons might be technically correct but it's ignoring release dates and availability, so it's recommending you a card that's so old it's out of production and thus more expensive than a modern low-end card with the same power. Just get a 1050 Ti.
I would just get the PC from the brother, stick a 1050 Ti in it for now, then if the CPU is constraining upgrade the CPU/Mobo/Ram later.
Kevin Rivera
Just got my first pay check and was thinking of getting a i7 7700 to celebrate Should I get one?
Jaxon Thompson
No it is equivalent to an i3 now.
Christopher Richardson
Bought 16GB of 3600MHz DDR4, I changed the voltage to 1.36V and the speed to 3900MHz (4000MHz was giving errors). It gives no errors passing 4 passes of memtest86.
Is there anything else I need to do or am I good to go? Do I need to re-test my CPU OC or will it be fine? I'm on a Z370 platform if it matters.
Jack Jenkins
white roast get out of my Japan
Juan Cruz
>Ignore the recommendations from the thebottlenecker.com/#project site, its GPU comparisons might be technically correct but it's ignoring release dates and availability, so it's recommending you a card that's so old it's out of production and thus more expensive than a modern low-end card with the same power. Just get a 1050 Ti. which is why I told him to get a card with equivalent performance to what was suggested by the bottleneck tester.
here the bottlenecker site is still valid for looking what STRENGTH of a card should be looked after, then you can simply look at where it stands on the GPU rankboard and then just check the ones near it for either cards you can get on the cheap second hand or can get new for a normal price
Bentley Adams
Just start gaming and if you crash you know why.
Bentley Lopez
What version of Windows 10 should I buy?
I read that if I get the OEM version I can't re-install it if I upgrade my gear, or did I read that wrong?
Christian Hill
the windows 7 version
Levi Hill
Nvm found it. Just tested it at 3.625 Ghz, gives me 139 points. But I have a lot of stuff in the background, don't think it has any effect but might be worth pointing out.
I'll run the tests again with higher clock speeds.
Jayden Nguyen
>z370 AHAHAHA WE MEMED ANOTHER ONE Sup ForumsUYS, they are so fucking dumb, this is better than memeing people into buying bulldozer for sure
Cooper Lopez
PC Part picker tells me ryzen is not compatible with it
It's fine user, just another windows trick to try and get you in an inferior version where they spy on you even more. Personally installed windows and all updates on a ryzen machine just this week
Isaiah Watson
it is just look it up
Jason White
W7 spies on you just as much as W10.
Blake Scott
>multithread doesn't matter muh gaymen
Kevin Sanders
You mad that the 8700K romps and stomps ur shithouse Ryzen chip, sweetie?
Angel Carter
sennheiser is shit
Jose Foster
still better than audio technica
Nicholas Perry
But I have a stuttermonster 4790k, but hey i guess its just a user error amirite because intel never does anything wrong
Kevin Davis
Intel is a shit but you can't deny the superiority of the 8700K over everything right now. The lack of availability and the necessity of a delid at 5GHz aren't so great though.
Lincoln Hill
>just delid and overclock to 6 ghz to get 2 more fps than amd
Josiah Kelly
No, ignore the other user. It's more like the i5 8400 (6c/6t)
I haven't really experimented with that bottlenecker site, but I don't trust it
It's ok. Not sure if that RAM will work with Ryzen. Cooler is pretty expensive, and the 960 EVO is overkill.
>recommending a 1070 for 1440p/144Hz is retarded It's not like the 1070 won't work with his monitor. If he's buying a new monitor it's better to spend on the monitor and cut costs on the graphics card to drive it. The graphics card will be outdated soon enough anyway, but he's going to have the monitor for a long time.
Honestly it's pretty meh. A lot of the other anons have given decent advice. Fix it up and repost and I'll comment
You can disable/uninstall those updates
>user error Yeah, you fucked something up somehow.
Joshua Foster
audio technica is reddit shit just like intel
Blake Wood
mine got to 5ghz without deliding
Aaron Gutierrez
I bought a new HDD and to install it in my old 2007-era case I had to remove the CPU cooler first in order to make it fit
So I'm thinking I probably need a new case anyway, what's a good budget ATX case?
My brother has a Corsair case and it's pretty good with plenty of room, but he bought a Corsair water cooler too.
Asher King
>i am the reason games put full load on a quad core >i am the reason intel doesnt make $300 8 cores >i am the reason intel is just shit I am brian krzanich?
I went for a kinda budget build. Only occasional fps gaming, I'm ok with playing at lower resolutions than 1080 (still a step up from pic related)
I was thinking of a build with great room for improvement, just by getting more ram and a better gpu in the future, even if it's bottlenecked right now.
Michael Harris
>cinebench single-thread score at 5GHz is a full 40% ahead of ryzen >2FPS
Sorry sweetie but not everyone plays the latest games at 4K, CPU single-thread performance can matter a lot to some people. I play a lot of CSGO, a lot of older games and some newer ones, Ryzen simply isn't an option for me. Even if it was I'm not poor so I don't really care about the price difference.
Neat. I got a average-ish chip which needs a little under 1.35V to be stable at 5GHz, so I needed a delid. I'm running an older air cooler rather than a CLC too. Was hitting 100C before delid.
Nathaniel Bell
>it.pcpartpicker.com/list/LnyswV looks good just get a powersupply that is based of of seasonic reference though and TF2 is an autism simulater please get better taste in vidya
Liam Adams
>not liking some motion blur do you hate anti-aliasing too?
Gavin Morales
>what's a good budget ATX case? what kind of budget? the meshify c is good at $80 the fractal design focus G is only $40 and decent too
Mason Martin
How much do RAM timings matter? Is CAS 18-19-19-39 gud for a 8600K gaming system?
Oliver Peterson
nah 88c, needed more voltage to go to 5.1 and would thermal throttle
Lucas Powell
>I play a lot of CSGO you just have shit taste in vidya i get it despite the fact that even the worst ryzen cpu will maintain above 240 fps in that turd game, you just keep trying to rationalize buying one of the most JUST cpus intel ever made
Ayden Jackson
>260fps vs 400fps matters You don't have a 240hz monitor and all the modern CPUs get insane FPS in that game anyway, so why does it matter?
Brandon Cox
look at benchmarks of 1050 vs 560 for the games you play
Daniel White
Performance wise it only matters on paper, but it can be important when it comes to compatibility. You may want to check your mobo's QVL before you buy.
