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the fuck?

Explain to me what in the holy fuck are you on about?

Ah kind of agree with Germany

Sorry, I must have made the key too small.
Blue countries have languages that only have the /Κƒ/ sound, the voiceless palato-alveolar sibilant. Yellow have the /Ι•/ sound, the voiceless alveolo-palatal sibilant. Green have both, and grey have neither.

When will we rejoin our Slavic brothers?

wow really makes you think huh

lmao enjoy your unwanted children and thus sad lifes

I looked those up. I had no idea I used them, and I never even noticed they are two different sounds. Weird.

Down here we consider sub-18 deaths as retroactive abortions, hence the dark blue.

>Porszczugal

I don't understand linguistic talk, care to give some examples in English or other languages?

search Κƒ and Ι• on wikipedia, and listen to their examples.

They also have a list of words in each language they are used. This one in particular is very close, it's saying a 'sh' at the back or the front of your mouth, but even then it's hard as fuck to understand from the sound files.

Portuguese does NOT have two separated /Κƒ/ and /Ι•/ phonemes. Both are allophones of the same /Ι•/ phoneme, with [Κƒ] usually being found before front vowels.

stop discussing linguistics and start posting maps retards sheesh

It's hard to give English examples because English is on the same boat as Portuguese - it has both sounds, but they'll vary depending on the following vowel and the speaker.

But basically: [Κƒ] curls the tongue a bit more against the palate.

As the map indicates, English speakers usually use only the "sh" noise where the tongue is at the front of the mouth and have difficulty telling the difference. In your case, pay attention to someone speaking a Chinese dialect and pay attention to where their tongue is positioned when they make the "x" noise, as in Xi'an

The map shows the phones themselves, not the phonemes.

Homos won't have childrens

Then isn't UK supposed to be green? AFAIK [Ι•] is present in English as an allophone of /Κƒ/. I might be mistaken though.

lmaoing at armenia, what the fuck

I'm no linguist desu, I just looked at a Wikipedia list. It would have said if /Ι•/ was present in English as an allophone, though.

I think it has up here, Zuca.

I definitely notice a diference between the examples in the wiki, with "beginning of word" or "middle of word" being the difference I can tell. I'm no linguist, though.

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European Portuguese does, I think. It sounds like it to me.

Well, I looked it up. The wiki says nothing about this, but I do remember reading somewhere... although, now thinking, it would be something present in rhotic accents [not British], so nevermind.

Portuguese in general does use the two sounds. However, they aren't distinctive. If you pronounce one or another, you won't get different words.

So they are [allophones], not /phonemes/.

I thought OP's map was for the phonemes, due to the usage of /slashes/.

Sorry, I have only a surface knowledge of linguistics.

>From Proto-Celtic *kladiwos-
Dunno if borrowing or cognate, but Latin had gladius. Romance languages dropped it though.

Ah, don't worry, this kind of thing happens.

Since you seem to know what you're talking about, I have a question. I am about to start university, and I am considering majoring in linguistics. Do you know what sorts of jobs you can get with a linguistics degree, if any?

It's a wonderful field of knowledge of science, but if you want to have a job, avoid it like you would avoid Satan with a dildo in hands ready to screw you.

It might be useful if you major first in something else, though. For language teachers, translators, lexicographers, even actors, it's really useful.

Thanks for all the help, huebro.

>That Icelandic purity
>That Sc*ndinavian degeneracy

>Germanics use PIE word for sword
>Slavs use proto-Germanic word for sword
The fuck is this?

hungarians are using the persian word

Well, same reason we're using the Hellenic word, otherwise we would be using a Celtic one. This isn't "core" vocab, stuff like this gets borrowed a lot.

That's less surprising to me, desu. The Magyars lived in an area around the Southern Ukraine, so that'd put them in contact with Alans and other Iranic people. The Ossetians, the other people who use Kard, are the most direct Alanic descendants.

My issue with the Germanic/Slav thing is that I find it hard to believe that the Germanics are using words with an older root while the people they influenced are somehow using terms from a younger stem. It's counter-intuitive.

It's probably from Gothic "mekeis"; it was a specific kind of sword.
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/πŒΌπŒ΄πŒΊπŒ΄πŒΉπƒ#Gothic

/Ι•/ is probably the sexiest phoneme that exists. When I took Mandarin there was this really shy qt who spoke it really well and whenever she would say "xΔ« ān" muh dick would be going wild.