Map thread

I don't understand linguistic talk, care to give some examples in English or other languages?

search ʃ and ɕ on wikipedia, and listen to their examples.

They also have a list of words in each language they are used. This one in particular is very close, it's saying a 'sh' at the back or the front of your mouth, but even then it's hard as fuck to understand from the sound files.

Portuguese does NOT have two separated /ʃ/ and /ɕ/ phonemes. Both are allophones of the same /ɕ/ phoneme, with [ʃ] usually being found before front vowels.

stop discussing linguistics and start posting maps retards sheesh

It's hard to give English examples because English is on the same boat as Portuguese - it has both sounds, but they'll vary depending on the following vowel and the speaker.

But basically: [ʃ] curls the tongue a bit more against the palate.

As the map indicates, English speakers usually use only the "sh" noise where the tongue is at the front of the mouth and have difficulty telling the difference. In your case, pay attention to someone speaking a Chinese dialect and pay attention to where their tongue is positioned when they make the "x" noise, as in Xi'an

The map shows the phones themselves, not the phonemes.

Homos won't have childrens

Then isn't UK supposed to be green? AFAIK [ɕ] is present in English as an allophone of /ʃ/. I might be mistaken though.

lmaoing at armenia, what the fuck