*makes piracy impossible*

>*makes piracy impossible*

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>*makes piracy impossible*
I'm sorry but what does that even mean?

Let me guess, it's a MIPS based VM?

looks like they pirated their logo

The year of the JVM desktop.

>your software only runs in this weird VM
>performance suffers
>pirate installs this weird VM, spoofs any online license verification, runs software
>????

Thats an oxymoron, you moron.

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>Legit buyers suffers from performance issues
>Crackers will bypass this crap. Pirates have no performance penalties.

You do realize vmprotect has already been cracked and hence was removed from denuvo. The only reason AC:O crack is taking time is because it's a drm to protect a drm. But just like the uncrackable denuvo it'll also be cracked

Colors don't even match

This. DOA as fug, case closed.

Piracy, uh, finds a way.

I'm sure it's fast

>on how many layers of virtualization are you?

Instead of cracking lame corporative software or kangz games, why not cracking vita's 3.65 fw?

>(((Anti-piracy))) software
>Steals old Office logo

Isn't that the new one that isn't even working in AC right now and Bioware is stuck between removing it or just letting nobody play it on the PC?

I may be wrong, but, isn't it possible to use this software to obfuscate malware and other malicious trash from AVs and such?

How do they get away with it? You'd think they'd prohibit people from making this kind of stuff

No. Every copy of VMProtect has a unique fingerprint that is getting attached to every executable file you want to protect.

But the fingerprint can only be obtained after a malicious person has already distributed the malware, and they can simply buy another license

Are AV companies even aware of such a signature? I don't see why they'd start tagging these files as malicious based on this specific signature from this specific software

Just try to obfuscate an executable with a cracked VMProtect and you will see that almost every AV detects it.

because nobody wants to play Pantsu Quest 9

Why did they choose the autism logo?

They know their target audience.

Alright, they aren't so bad if they implemented such a thing and it works in practice.

Is it even possible to crack vmprotect and modify it so that it spits out files with random signatures every time a file is generated?

Never seen one. Maybe it is possible just not a part of public knowledge.

Speaking of anti-piracy has anyone else ever had to deal with ISP harassment about this sort of thing before. I've had my internet shut off before a long while back even when I've never downloaded a damn thing. Do companies just do this for shits and giggles now? I feel like we have no rights anymore. You want to do the "right" thing and yet still get taken advantage of for it. In this instance say I wanted to enjoy that nice game, buy it on steam and have some fun but no they want you to install multiple layers ontop of steam to slow your shit down and probably data mine you for advertisement and spying purposes. I like steam and found it to be a fair balance where you can legit purchase things and have it for the most part leave you alone but this is getting ridiculous.

Why buy the game at all then? Don't support games that do this shit. I don't pirate and I still don't buy them out of principle. If I'm buying your shit, try not treating me like a criminal and hamper my experience when it won't stop pirates at all and they will play with no real issues or DRM.

All it does is fuck over regular paying customers.

Yeah I wouldn't I was just saying in principal say I did want to buy said game but now they basically lost a potential sale.

Makes sense 8 was sooo much better.

speak for yourself

>non-standard architecture
>extremely difficult to analyze

Lmao, these are the same retards that think security by obscurity works

Like we haven't heard this one before.

This.
This is exactly why I hate DRM. Only the legit user suffers, most pirates entirely bypass or purge the DRM.

Says the retard who thinks security works.

> limits free upgrades
But why?

Not like Bioware has a say, now that EA are ruining their operations.

Vmprotect has already been reverse engineered and cracked

Cracking a software protection and a console system are different although related areas. You need to know reverse engineering for both, however cracking consoles is exploit development while cracking software protections is dealing with obfuscation (security through obscurity pretty much).

>Using non-free software
You only have yourself to blame

All software is free software

What I meant to say is, crackers from scene groups probably don't have the required experience for console cracking.

Yeah but this is referring to a game. I can't really think of many games that fall under GPL. OpenTTD maybe?

There are some more I believe, but yes.
Free as in freedom.

*pirates Windows*
*pirates VMProtect then deletes it just so they lose a sale*
*pirates game*
*pirates crack*
*plays cracked game outside of VMProtect, getting a 15% performance boost above all buyfags forced to play the game in the VM*

*pirates piracy*

You know why.

github.com/IEEEICSG/IEEE_Taggant_System

It's a cryptographic signature, you can't just spew a random one because it won't match a known license.

AC Origins uses it that is why it runs like dogshit

Ah yeah I looked it up there's more than I thought.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_video_games

I figured most of it was small "ms entertainment pack style" type of simple games.

All past DRM on PC (except USB dongles) were security by obscurity because you have access to all OS protection rings and the whole executable code - there is no other choice than to mangle the execution because you can't physically restrict the user from accessing code and data. Intel SGX is meant to fix that.

The CPU still has to execute the code somehow
Can't you just dump it instruction by instruction?

>lol everything is hackable absolutely nothin is safe guis

What do you mean? In case of standard DRM even when the code is encrypted it needs to be decrypted somewhere in the accessible memory to be executed. SGX has enclaves that are encrypted when you look at them in the debugger but whenever they are accessed the decrypted content is not written inside the memory accessible by the OS (no idea where, probably somewhere inside the CPU). There will be some attacks on SGX but they won't be simple.

>*pirates VMProtect then deletes it just so they lose a sale*
Reminds me of the dude who tweeted some ME:A guy that he set the download location of it to the recycle bin.

>by executing it in a virtual machine with non-standard architecture
So, another Denuvo?

what does this thing do that vmware or virtualbox or qemu doesn't?

Those are different things. VMProtect is for obfuscating executables.

autism

Good luck to them though. Sick of pirates.
But doesn't Intel SGX do this better? It's not taken off for commercial software yet but I feel they're just not heading into this at the right time.
It's not like that. It's a virtual machine for running portions of software in the vm for your native software.

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So, the portion of the crypto signature must validate whether the serial is authentic or not with an offline/online check, I'm guessing it's offline because there are cracked versions of this software out there and it still works

Maybe all it takes is someone figuring out how to produce a keygen, and feeding the signature portion a randomly selected license each time a file is generated

>So, the portion of the crypto signature must validate whether the serial is authentic or not with an offline/online check, I'm guessing it's offline because there are cracked versions of this software out there and it still works

The executable contains a signature which is checked by the AV scanner. Taggant has nothing to do with the protection, it just helps track executables made with illegitimate license.

>Maybe all it takes is someone figuring out how to produce a keygen

Yeah, simple, you "just" need to break the private key cryptography.

The whole controversy is overblown because this just proves that the code from vmprotect section gets executed during gameplay and nothing else, he doesn't even say what the code does nor he does any profiling to provide the evidence of 30% slowdown he claims it causes.

nigger-pirates btfo

all the important binaries already do this

Source?

reddit.com/r/CrackWatch/comments/79pd62/update_on_ubisofts_anticonsumerism/

Clickable boxes with texts assingable to model computed on cloud. This is the future, it's obsolete even with designer of that ad.

Except your virginity

Also reading and asinging models and controlers is not that difficult.

I am under the impression the crypto signature has to be valid in order for the generated executable to work, otherwise, it would be worthless if it's possible to manually eliminate it or change it, is this signature spread across the entire file, or is it located at a single segment of the executable?

I thought keygens are produced by reverse engineering the instructions that check whether a key is valid or not, are there methods to make license RE a lot harder harder? Like validating a part of the key online, and another part offline?

I'm obviously no RE/Crypto expert so I might be pants on head retarded

>Like validating a part of the key online, and another part offline?
You can patch the executable or mock server responses.

>reddit
I see. Thanks for sharing i guess.

This is actually quite dangerous because the publisher can tell the copy that sourced the crack.

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over how hard I'm laughing.

VMProtect was broken in 2008.

DRM breaks rule 1 of crypto: Never roll your own crypto.

The current use of VMProtect is in Assasins Creed: Origins, its being used to protect Denuvo. Fuckin double DRM.

The Taggant signature is only there to provide authenticity. If you remove or change it, the file will be considered untrusted by AV but it will execute. Taggant signature has nothing to do with the serial keys the protection itself uses, you can think of it as metadata.

Back in the day, serial keys were verified using some convoluted algorithms, these days serials are generated based on a private key known by the vendor and checked using the corresponding public key that comes with the software. Some keygens require you to patch the executable first and then input the key generated by the keygen. The patch replaces the public key with one generated by the cracker, the keygen contains cracker's private key (because he obviously has no way of knowing vendor's private key unless he steals it or something) based on which serials are generated.

You do realize VMProtect has changed since then?

Triple if you count using steam but steam by itself is not a problem imo.

Denuvo ran the game off an encrypted virtual filesystem if I recall correctly.

This is VM so the CPU instructions themselves are containerized. It's still x86_64, otherwise they'd have to port the game over to the VM's new architecture.

>Denuvo ran the game off an encrypted virtual filesystem if I recall correctly.

This is not true. Starforce had a virtual filesystem though.

>This is VM so the CPU instructions themselves are containerized. It's still x86_64, otherwise they'd have to port the game over to the VM's new architecture.

The whole game isn't ported to the new architecture, just single functions are recompiled to the VM's made up bytecode and ran through an obfuscated interpreter.

>This is not true. Starforce had a virtual filesystem though.
Yes, you're right. Denuvo (right now) is closer to WINE than a flatpak or Microsoft's UAP which is what I was thinking of.

>The whole game isn't ported to the new architecture, just single functions are recompiled to the VM's made up bytecode and ran through an obfuscated interpreter.
Nice, you run a game through Denuvo while the whole mess is hooked into this piece of shit JVM wannabe.

Ubisoft's racial 'diversity' quotas really paying off!

Since this is also a thinly veiled WE WUZ creed thread, any of you that go to Sup Forums notice the insane shilling going on there?
It looks like 3/4 of an average thread is just marketing speech to me

>It looks like 3/4 of an average thread is just marketing speech to me
lel you should see Sup Forums
not like Sup Forums is too far off with the chink threads, card threads and phone threads

And the surface stuff, but it's all noticeable and stands out a lot.
Dunno maybe i don't go to Sup Forums enough but i've not seen such a high degree of astroturfing with videogames yet.
The wolfenstein marketing was nothing in comparison

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Remember memeuvo? Pirates always find a way if there's an audience for the software

Ha, they are shilling so hard , threads critizing EA are buried with layers useless shilling.

Netflix/amazon/studio shilling is off the charts on Sup Forums. It's too cheap to shill here, it's only gonna get worse until they realize 70% of people here are broke neets that can't buy the shilled stuff and even then it's still so cheap they'll probably keep doing it.

That's totally not gonna fuck up performance by making CPUs do completely unnecessary instructions

Time fo dem reparayshuns, cracka

If all else fails send threatening letters even if you haven't pirated a damn thing.

I'd say changing the opinions here is a good goal, there are masses of lurkers just reading and lurking. When you shill hard enough to say"x board likes y" that means a lot online, 4ch still leads internet culture and humor, look at what Sup Forums did to notch for just one example.
That voksi faggot is saying denuvo + vm is eating 30-40% cpu usage. 7700k is 99% usage at all times in this game

>impossible
more like just really annoying

KEK, I do recall seeing some benchmarks showing ridiculous CPU usage and some moron said that meant the CPU was being used properly.
If this thing gets cracked, it would be funny to see how much better does the pirated version runs.

I wouldn't expect much, it's jewbisoft mass produced garbage famous for running like shit on every single pc config, ac shitgames are known for always running like shit.

IIRC The Battle for Wesnoth and UFO: Alien Invasion are pretty solid for free gaems