If someone obtains an image of your passport or drivers license and SSN they can take your life savings

>if someone obtains an image of your passport or drivers license and SSN they can take your life savings

Explain why this is fair and how we can stop it.

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Well?

> SSN

By stop being in a third world country.

lmao where the fuck did you hear this

It makes sense.

Why do Americans have such poor security for their identities?

Because SSNs were never meant to be secure because they were never intended to be used for identification. It even says on one's SS card that it's not for use as an ID. But banks and credit companies saw an established database of person specific numbers and latched onto it.

We need an ACTUAL national ID, based on public/private PGP keys

But why? The UK has something similar with the NI number but they don't have this problem.

This does a pretty good job explaining this clusterfuck

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Americans are not liable for identity theft you retard yuropoor.

You have no useful Data Protection Act or equivalent EU directives.

Your personal protection laws are orders of magnitude weaker. Your banking laws are much weaker too - if a bank had opened hundreds of thousands to millions of fake accounts with faked signatures over here, bank employees would be going to jail and the bank itself would have forcibly liquidated, that's way worse than anything most of the world lets anyone get away with.

The one we're getting next year as a result of the updated EU directive allows the issuing of unlimited fines for personal data breaches. That is going to eat a few companies down the line - and they are going to deserve it.

It also makes clear that the US can't agree to protect it equivalently unless the US companies agree to the same thing, rather than the halfway clusterfuck they have now.

The NINO cannot legally be used as a means of personal identification.

The original NINO card you're issued with can be used as one factor, but only to prove your NINO (which you never need to do).

Passport can; driving licence (including provisional) can. Note both of these have photographs. If you also need a proof of address (you probably do), then a major household utility bill or bank account statement with the same details and matching address on top of that will do, but you need them to be presented at the same time.

We campaigned strongly against that when our Gov wanted to do it (NO2ID), for a variety of very good reasons that are probably still on our website.

God, I miss those days. NTK was a blast.

Stop worrying about "fair." Lives are ruined and ended in the pursuit of "fair." Life isn't fair, or didn't your parents tell you this when you were a child?

How can you stop it? Keep your social security card locked up in a good safe that is bolted to the floor, and install the Experian app, as well as Credit Karma, so that you can check once per week to see if anyone has fucked with anything, and, if they have report it immediately.

Furthermore, implement a credit freeze at all 3 credit bureaus.

>Name it social security
>It's anything but secure
>After so many years the title should be:
>Social Serial

yeah i saw that image too

>Keep your social security card locked up
doesn't help with all the times you need to give the number to someone else on a form that they don't wind up properly securing

>there's an app for that
okay

How does a image of my passport help them prove they are me at the bank?

That doesn't stop Portuguese ISPs from making fake contracts and charging their "customers" for failing with their payments.

>Stop worrying about "fair."
Indeed.
"Fair" is what you do and hope others do.
If you think you have a right to be treated fairly you're in for a rough life.

Because Americans like when strangers take control of them. Which is why they vote for politicians who put this system in place, it's what people want. It's not fair, but it's democratic.

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Democracy is shit

> not having life savings buried in your back yard.